Boxing day bollocks

[54yrblade]

I was also there for that game and it's shocking that the birthplace of football should ever have reached the pub league level. It's incredible that both teams could attract nearly 100,000 for 3rd division matches then and one of them still being singing about it 55years later.

Yesterday, like Dozy and Sneezy arguing about who is the tallest dwarf

THE home of football deserves better than where it finds itself now.

Personally, that was as good an opportunity to properly avenge the BMD as we're likely to get.

We missed it, and on to Wednesday night for a different challenge entirely.

 

[metalblade]

And forgotten we're at your place in a couple of days as well?

You really hadn't, we are living in your head.

 

[Speedracer]

3-1 (Davison), 4-2 (Bouncing), 3-0 (bwahaha) and Relegation in February Day (even bwahahahahaha-er) don’t individually ‘avenge’ the 0-4. But so what?

I strongly disagree with this mate. I would say that they all do, even taken in isolation. Three of those games were at their shit hole of a ground, the first two when on paper they had a much better side than us.

The Boxing Day game has never bothered me that much over the years. Yes on the day it hurt, especially so as I went to the game with a pig & sat on their kop like an idiot. Funnily enough it was him who was almost attacked when we walked up Parkside Rd after the game past where the SYP held the Blades fans outside the park, but I unzipped my jacket to show my red & white scarf so they let it be. We just didn't turn up that day, a terrible performance that I hardly ever think about, it was a 3rd Division game almost half a century ago, big deal.

Talking to another of my piggy mates before the game, he told me they go on about it & their FA Cup semi final win even today because it is all they have over us.

Apologies for having piggy mates, I grew up on that side of the city.

 

[SLB]

Don't waste your time trying to understand the mentality of the average pig fan 99% of them are deranged and must live in a parallel universe, I mean at least one of them thinks they are a global presence

Don't bring global presence up again, I've only just started to get over it. It's one of the funniest things I've ever heard.

 

[Geordie Blade]

I strongly disagree with this mate. I would say that they all do, even taken in isolation. Three of those games were at their shit hole of a ground, the first two when on paper they had a much better side than us.

The Boxing Day game has never bothered me that much over the years. Yes on the day it hurt, especially so as I went to the game with a pig & sat on their kop like an idiot. Funnily enough it was him who was almost attacked when we walked up Parkside Rd after the game past where the SYP held the Blades fans outside the park, but I unzipped my jacket to show my red & white scarf so they let it be. We just didn't turn up that day, a terrible performance that I hardly ever think about, it was a 3rd Division game almost half a century ago, big deal.

Talking to another of my piggy mates before the game, he told me they go on about it & their FA Cup semi final win even today because it is all they have over us.

Apologies for having piggy mates, I grew up on that side of the city.

I agree that, subjectively, there are arguments why some of our wins were better. But equally you could say the same for their cup semi final win or their win in 2012 to set them on the way to beating us to promotion (from division three). Objectively though, 4-0 is a bigger trouncing on paper. It’s no shame to admit it. It just looks petty to argue otherwise.

The point, as you say, is that it’s all they have to go on. We don’t refer to the 7-3 win because it was 75 years ago. Their 4-0 was 48 years ago - in the same category of ancient history. But they talk about it as if it’s still relevant to their standing today.

 

[sitwell]

Tom Cannon scored against them, we should sing a song about that.

 

[Speedracer]

Objectively though, 4-0 is a bigger trouncing on paper. It’s no shame to admit it. It just looks petty to argue otherwise.

The point, as you say, is that it’s all they have to go on. We don’t refer to the 7-3 win because it was 75 years ago. Their 4-0 was 48 years ago - in the same category of ancient history. But they talk about it as if it’s still relevant to their standing today.

Well, again I would say that winning 0-3 on your opponents ground is bigger than losing 4-0 to them on it.

But I don't want to argue mate, just bask in the wins.

 

[Selly]

I think they have won once at Bramall Lane since the 1960’s.

Correct. And only 4 times since WWI.

League only - We've managed 14 wins at the Sty since WWI. Hell we've won 4 time at the Sty in the last 20 years...

 

[Brussblade]

I was there on Boxing Day and it was not nice being a Blade at that time (albeit an 8-year-old footy mad one). There was a palpable feeling that the balance of power had shifted - it had.

For that reason I always want us to hammer them and rub their noses in it.

But I will settle for being higher up the league and beating them every time we play them. I applaud Wilder for making the most of every win (though his radio rant the other year was not my taste and I am not a fan of dancing on tables in pubs.)

One day they will come back and do the same to us.

 

[Sheffsteel]

It’s very sad that all they have left to cling onto is the distant memory of a game played over 46 years ago at the 3rd level. Only 28 years previously we’d beaten them 7-3. I’m 55 now and I only have a vague recollection of the game and I only went to my first Blades game a month after it was played.
They talk of it in terms of achievement but our 3-1 win in 1992 on Bobby Davison night and the 4-2 Bouncing Day massacre are actually bigger achievements as they were supposed to thrash us in both those games and they were played at a higher level and at their place. I think they have won once at Bramall Lane since the 1960’s.

I was 14 when I went to the Boxing Day game.

People make the mistake of thinking the significance was the result.
Actually 4-0 was a bit of a fluke result, United had 2 really easy chances to score.
Based on general play and chances a fairer result would have been 3-1 to Wednesday, maybe even 3-2.

The significance of that match was the background context.
United had been top dogs in the city through out the 1970’s whilst Wednesday were terrible and seen as a bit of a joke.

Before the Boxing Day match United were top of the league where as Wednesday were 6th.
United were big favourites to win and most Blades were very confident, almost arrogant, there was no way we’d lose to this feeble club.

So to lose 4-0 was a massive shock. After the match Wednesday fans were walking around with permanent grins on their faces for weeks.
Where as Blades were walking around in shock for weeks, almost embarrassed to lose to a club who were seen as 2nd rate and inferior for so long.

Basically that single match on Boxing Day represented a shift in the balance of power, deep down both Owls and Blades knew it.

That match was a sliding doors moment, amazingly after that match United hardly won a game whereas Wednesday went on a good run and ended up promoted. The following season the depression around the Lane was so strong we were relegated to div 4, whereas SW were on the up and it didn’t take them long to reach the top flight and they were reasonably competitive there too.

The only other derby similar to the Boxing Day match was the 2-4 bouncing day massacre match.
At the time Wednesday had been top dogs for 6 years and United were seeing one of their worse most depressing spells in their history.
Wednesday fans were highly confident they would win but on the day United were clearly superior and deservedly won.

After the 4-2 Bouncing Day win Wednesday were never the same and went on a slump for several years with Chansiri losing interest.
Where as United under Wilder had momentum and went from strength to strength ending up in the Premier league.

Basically that single match on Bouncing Day represented a shift in the balance of power, deep down both Owls and Blades knew it.

 

[Dkc]

Personally, that was as good an opportunity to properly avenge the BMD as we're likely to get.

We don't need to avenge anything.

Before Boxing Day 79 we'd already beaten them 7-3.

 

[NAP]

Think everyone is missing the point here. The fact that the game was held on Boxing Day (which will never take place again, no Derbies will-the fixture computer wont allow it) gave the song it's 'credence' and 'wording'. what would a middle of the season 4-0 win by United over Wednesday on say the 27 November ever be called? the 'didnt have a name day' massacre? so,sorry to disappoint but this sad ancient pathetic little song will never be 'avenged'

 

[Blade59]

I was there on boxing day and it hurt like hell at the time. However now it is now just a record in the history books showing it was the joint highest winning margin in a Sheffield derby equalling our 7-3 win at the lane. Arguably the 7-3 upstages it as it is also the most goals scored by either side in a single game. Whichever way you look at it we hold the all time bragging rights for the fixture, most wins, most consecutive wins, highest away win, highest goals scored in an away fixture etc. Only in their deluded heads does the boxing day game upstage all that.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Yeh , we need to change the last line of that song ,
Why do we keep reminding them of a time when they thrashed us and crashed our promotion campaign , only to get promotion themselves ?

Hark now hear United sing, no Wednesday fans in town
And they will cry forevermore cos Wilder sent them down

 

[The Vicar]

I was on the kop on Boxing Day!!! Imagine having to fake applause when they scored 4 times. As an 18 year old there was no way I could show my true colours!

 

[Speedracer]

I was on the kop on Boxing Day!!! Imagine having to fake applause when they scored 4 times. As an 18 year old there was no way I could show my true colours!

Me too, although I was 22. I am not a hard man believe me but I didn't clap, in fact at one point someone in the crowd just behind our group said "look, no piggy bastards on our kop". Stupid I know but I turned around & unzipped my jacket enough for him to see my red & white scarf, before zipping it quickly back up. I was just so angry with what was happening on the pitch.

Anyway, nothing came of it, so very lucky really.

 

[Panini]

It doesn’t help that we sing about the BDM. Personally I’ve never understood why we as a fanbase sing about a defeat by them and it does endorse their view that it matters to us. We should just not bother. It was decades ago and to many United fans either a distant memory or something that they don’t even know about because they weren’t born.

Fair point.

I'll add that I've always found it baffling that they will fight forever more because of a game they won.

You'd be hard pushed to find any other example of that anywhere in football.

 

[Dkc]

I was on the kop on Boxing Day!!! Imagine having to fake applause when they scored 4 times. As an 18 year old there was no way I could show my true colours!

There were about 100 Blades stood together on their kop waving at the Blades on the Leppings Lane. They were to the left as we looked, closer to their North Stand. You should have stood with them!

 

[Sheffsteel]

I was on the kop on Boxing Day!!! Imagine having to fake applause when they scored 4 times. As an 18 year old there was no way I could show my true colours!

I was also on their Kop.
Went to their ticket office 15 minutes before kick-off asking for a ticket in the away end, they said it was full and the only area with tickets was their Kop.

When I arrived 2 minutes before kick the gangways were totally packed, couldn’t move anywhere, remember thinking if anyone stood near the front of their Kop wanted to go to the toilet, it would take at least 20 minutes to reach the nearest toilet. I had to stay right at the back of their Kop and could hardly see anything.
I was wearing my United scarf too and had no comments or trouble, altho I was a young kid.

I also saw another young kid (probably about 13 years old) wearing a red and white United scarf stood right at the back of their Kop.
Just shows that in them days, rival fans mixing wasn’t as much of a taboo.

Also remember the 1992 derby match at the Lane. I had a season ticket in the seats at the back of the John Street terrace and for that match there were quite a few wearing blue and white scarves sat in the John Street stand. So as an away fan you could always go to a Sheffield derby and buy tickets in the home areas.

 

[VictoryBlade]

I was there on the day and can't believe that we sing about it.
We are making it relevant for them.

Need to change the last line to 'and we will fight for ever more, because of bouncing day'

 

[VictoryBlade]

Yesterday, like Dozy and Sneezy arguing about who is the tallest dwarf

THE home of football deserves better than where it finds itself now.

Personally, that was as good an opportunity to properly avenge the BMD as we're likely to get.

We missed it, and on to Wednesday night for a different challenge entirely.

Duffy put Boxing Day to bed and then some!

 

[54yrblade]

Duffy put Boxing Day to bed and then some!

He shut them up. 2-4 isn't 4-0

 

[VictoryBlade]

He shut them up. 2-4 isn't 4-0

He shut them up. 2-4 isn't 4-0

4-2 away is much better IMO particularly with Duffy's goal

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

Boxing Day is outside living memory for several generations of fans by this point.

Even the Wembley semi is starting to feel like a relic of a bygone era. That stadium's been demolished 20-odd years.

They cling to this stuff because they've got nothing else, especially when it comes to city bragging rights.

 

[Chimpan-A]

The difference between the fans is that Wednesday look to one-off achievements (BDM and Rumbelow’s Cup) and somehow think that those isolated things make them permanently massive. It breeds a weird complacent mentality where they settle for being utterly shit.

This is a great point. They have far more low points than high points in their history, yet it’s the few high points that define them, apparently.
In terms of Boxing Day, I would be surprised if any United fan who can remember it is still bothered by it. I was 11 at the time, and other things were also annoying to me that are equally irrelevant to the older me; finding out that Darth Vader was Luke’s Dad before I actually saw the Empire Strikes Back was a biggie, for example. If any people of an older age are still affected by it, they probably have a huge hole in their life where actual important things should reside.
They are very fixated on it, I have mates who definitely were too young for it to have had any impact still going on about it, and my teenaged son’s mates mention it, presumably via brainwashing from parents.

 

[Borbokisfreekick]

I was there on the day and can't believe that we sing about it.
We are making it relevant for them.

Did we go down to 10 men in the game through injury? Also, did we miss a pen or was it an open goal?

 

[shorehamview]

You really hadn't, we are living in your head.

I went to Coventry years ago for a Boxing Day match. It was cold. I don’t remember the exact year, and I don’t remember the score, that’s how significant it was.

Are you living in my head? I sincerely doubt it. I couldn’t name a single member of your team, although I am of course aware that you’re Frank Lampard’s Coventry City.

Do you still do the silly SISU protests, or has that finished now? I’ve no idea.

 

[Uncle mick]

I went to Coventry years ago for a Boxing Day match. It was cold. I don’t remember the exact year, and I don’t remember the score, that’s how significant it was.

Are you living in my head? I sincerely doubt it. I couldn’t name a single member of your team, although I am of course aware that you’re Frank Lampard’s Coventry City.

Do you still do the silly SISU protests, or has that finished now? I’ve no idea.

Think I went to that match there was a very nice lady on their back page of the programme
I think they used to have a pinup everymatch

 

[Silent Blade]

Think I went to that match there was a very nice lady on their back page of the programme
I think they used to have a pinup everymatch

 

[Uncle mick]

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