Dele Ali!

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Irv said:
So what’s his career move then? Working at Aldi?
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Why does he need to do anything right this second?

But mainly, I pointed out that something might be unhealthy for someone, I can't claim to fix anything
 

tommy said:
Don't knock working at aldi .....just saying
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You don’t need to ‘just say’ as I wasn’t knocking working in a supermarket-but I highly doubt that role is going to pay for the considerable outgoings he has accumulated as a professional footballer.
 
Irv said:
You don’t need to ‘just say’ as I wasn’t knocking working in a supermarket- but I highly doubt that role is going to pay for the considerable outgoings he has accumulated as a professional footballer.
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Carlton Blade said:
Why does he need to do anything right this second?

But mainly, I pointed out that something might be unhealthy for someone, I can't claim to fix anything
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Don’t think it’s unhealthy for him, he just happens to have dropped off in terms of levels. He’d be fine in Saudi or the US and still earn a good coin.
 
Irv said:
Don’t think it’s unhealthy for him, he just happens to have dropped off in terms of levels. He’d be fine in Saudi or the US and still earn a good coin.
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It's not all about that. He's had so many massive issues for so long, since being a kid. Being in an environment where you are under the spotlight, social media bollocks etc he could well be best out of it.
I'm sure he's ok financially, so he should do whatever is best for him as a person, not just what oats beat.
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
It's not all about that. He's had so many massive issues for so long, since being a kid. Being in an environment where you are under the spotlight, social media bollocks etc he could well be best out of it.
I'm sure he's ok financially, so he should do whatever is best for him as a person, not just what oats beat.
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I went through some of the exact same things as he did as a youth, no one knows what is best for him and his mental health. Who’s to say football isn’t the one thing that keeps him going so why would he want to quit?
No one outside his circle knows.
Equally people saying he’s only good enough for national league are incorrect- he still can forge a career as a pro footballer- just at a lower standard than he’s used to (whether that’s in the championship remains to be seen)
 
john Mathison said:
Sadly, suffering as Ravel Morrison has over the years. So, very, very sad.
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I don’t think that’s fair- if you read some of the things Ravel has done then the two are completely incomparable
 
Irv said:
I don’t think that’s fair- if you read some of the things Ravel has done then the two are completely incomparable
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They could both boil down to similar root causes though.

I once read that the staff at Man United academy had to teach Ravel how to brush his teeth properly and the basics of hygiene as he’d basically fended for himself from such a young age. He was dragged up in poverty and what little care he got seemed to be from his grandparents.

Dele Alli plays with the name Dele on his shirt because his father was an utter cunt and he has nothing to do with him. He was sexually abused aged 6 before being adopted.

I think they both had utterly shit childhoods but just happen to be very gifted footballers. Make them rich and famous at a very young age and they’re going to struggle mentally to adjust
 
He's a player that I think needs the club to get round him and make him feel loved, supported, and get him loving football again.

After seeing how we are with Brewster/Cannon etc, we are not the right club for him.
 
Irv said:
I went through some of the exact same things as he did as a youth, no one knows what is best for him and his mental health. Who’s to say football isn’t the one thing that keeps him going so why would he want to quit?
No one outside his circle knows.
Equally people saying he’s only good enough for national league are incorrect- he still can forge a career as a pro footballer- just at a lower standard than he’s used to (whether that’s in the championship remains to be seen)
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Exactly. He should do what's best for him personally, not just chase the dollar.
That could be football in so many capacities. Or could be something completely different. Whatever is best for his head.
 
Another example of a cracking young footballer who was ruined by the money and had his head turned by the bright lights.he should have been going to the world cup next year. Don't know who the lads agent/ advisor is but he needs to get rid and try and reset his life .
Didn't realise he's still only 29 .
 

Having just read about his childhood in Wikipedia, there seem to be plenty of reasons to explain his going off the rails
 
Irv said:
Don’t think it’s unhealthy for him, he just happens to have dropped off in terms of levels. He’d be fine in Saudi or the US and still earn a good coin.
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Don’t think he’d come to the US, his dad is here in Houston with Alli’s 4 half siblings, 1 of them is in my son’s class at school. Allí is not a fan of his dad.
 
Imo I thinks he's done, unless its a pay as you play deal i can't see anyone professionally taking him on.
 
Aston max said:
Another example of a cracking young footballer who was ruined by the money and had his head turned by the bright lights.he should have been going to the world cup next year. Don't know who the lads agent/ advisor is but he needs to get rid and try and reset his life .
Didn't realise he's still only 29 .
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Jesus christ, that's so far away from reality.

Do you just think every footballer that falls off the rails is ruined by money and bright lights?

Try watching this, then come back and see if you still agree with what your brain just made up.

 
mattbianco1 said:
Jesus christ, that's so far away from reality.

Do you just think every footballer that falls off the rails is ruined by money and bright lights?

Try watching this, then come back and see if you still agree with what your brain just made up.

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First time I've seen that so it does actually explain a lot , but I know the dark things in people's minds/ history can and does come out and affect your life at some point. PTSD is a particularly nasty dark place for some.
But I knew someone who was around spuds at the time he was there and from what I was told the above probably explains a lot of his behaviour. I don't know about now but even just a few years ago clubs didn't do a lot for young players who obviously needed some form of help in coping with money and fame .
I suspect there's still unscrupulous agents that regardless of if the lads/ lasses mental state still only see them as a meal ticket.
 
Really hope we have looked at the possibility of signing him , maybe alot of reasons not to sign him ( not played for a while ,, therefore needing pre-season , wages might be too high etc) but amazing talent, , if we could get him playing something like his ability would be outstanding at championship level , would it be a gamble? Of course it would but every signing is a gamble ,
 
radio said:
Really hope we have looked at the possibility of signing him , maybe alot of reasons not to sign him ( not played for a while ,, therefore needing pre-season , wages might be too high etc) but amazing talent, , if we could get him playing something like his ability would be outstanding at championship level , would it be a gamble? Of course it would but every signing is a gamble ,
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We need a striker.
 
Gamble? It would be throwing good money after bad. Christ get a DOF in. We are not in a position to gamble.
 
Just gerrimin. Not like he's going to stunt any kind of promotion effort for us. We're almost in the perfect position for a couple of projects (unless we've suddenly got structured and intricate planning behind the scenes).
 

I wish him all the best, hopefully he finds peace in his life soon, but this would be a Jack Rodwell project all over again.

Sadly he only played once for Como, he came on, got sent off, that is all.

If it was a pay only if you play deal, that has to be for 20+ minutes per game to get paid, then I'd say fine - but its not my decision to make.
 
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