CONFIRMED Souza off!?

[DronnieBlade]

Do you not think that clanger of a season in the Prem is a serious drag on his valuation right now? When he was at it last year he was a class apart in the Champ and vital for us, I agree.

I think the job he was tasked with in the PL was impossible tbh. His attitude left a bit to be desired I can’t ignore that, but when the shit show that was that particular season was unfolding around him, I reckon Mother Theresa might have thrown in a cuss word or two !!

I think the lad is class at what he does and hiding behind ridiculous goals / assists stats to make points that simply aren’t there is churlish in the extreme.

Wolfsburg, if is indeed Wolfsburg, will be a stepping stone on to a much bigger move down the line. £13m is chicken feed.

Count on it .

UTB

 

[nopigfansintown]

Two years left on his deal. If he won't renew good decision to move him on. Same with any others in the same situation.

 

[1889]

Thats the boozer fucked then

Not unless we sell Rhian Brewster too

 

[designedbyross]

We will be seriously short in midfield if he leaves.

Literally…

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

His attributes speak for themselves. Great physical presence, leader, unflappable, never shies away, loves a tackle, absolute unit (looks like a man against boys, often), athlete.

Really loved him last season. Was a huge, huge miss when out injured. That spine of Cooper, Anel, Souttar, Blaster and Souza looked so impeccably solid. I felt confident to invite other sides on to us, without any fear that we'd concede.

£13m is nowhere near enough for that IMO. To replace his skillset and presence will require a lot of money.

 

[Frank the tank]

Darren smith saying we paid 14mill for Souza

He's full of shit

 

[Frank the tank]

His attributes speak for themselves. Great physical presence, leader, unflappable, never shies away, loves a tackle, absolute unit (looks like a man against boys, often), athlete.

Really loved him last season. Was a huge, huge miss when out injured. That spine of Cooper, Anel, Souttar, Blaster and Souza looked so impeccably solid. I felt confident to invite other sides on to us, without any fear that we'd concede.

£13m is nowhere near enough for that IMO. To replace his skillset and presence will require a lot of money.

LEADER. ???

 

[DronnieBlade]

His attributes speak for themselves. Great physical presence, leader, unflappable, never shies away, loves a tackle, absolute unit (looks like a man against boys, often), athlete.

Really loved him last season. Was a huge, huge miss when out injured. That spine of Cooper, Anel, Souttar, Blaster and Souza looked so impeccably solid. I felt confident to invite other sides on to us, without any fear that we'd concede.

£13m is nowhere near enough for that IMO. To replace his skillset and presence will require a lot of money.

I’d add his situational awareness and reading of opponents transitional phases was / is remarkable.

UTB

 

[bakeblade]

His attributes speak for themselves. Great physical presence, leader, unflappable, never shies away, loves a tackle, absolute unit (looks like a man against boys, often), athlete.

Really loved him last season. Was a huge, huge miss when out injured. That spine of Cooper, Anel, Souttar, Blaster and Souza looked so impeccably solid. I felt confident to invite other sides on to us, without any fear that we'd concede.

£13m is nowhere near enough for that IMO. To replace his skillset and presence will require a lot of money.

13 million? They're having a laugh surely

 

[CaptainMorgans]

VC?

Vaclav Cerny?

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

LEADER. ???

 

[Frank the tank]

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[Nick Jansky]

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That’s not leadership.

 

[Slim Man]

I don't think it's an unfair fee. Think it's about right for a standout championship defensive midfielder mid twenties. And I absolutely love him.

But to suggest Tom Davies is better than him is fucking weird.

Both those things can be true.

 

[robbiez666]

There is literally NO Shef Utd or Sunderland fan that could, hand on heart, value Jobe > Vini.

Jobe is 19. One of the best players, if not the best player, in a team that just got promoted to the top flight. He's also English.

You seriously think Souza is the better prospect?

 

[CaptainMorgans]

I don't think it's an unfair fee. Think it's about right for a standout championship defensive midfielder mid twenties. And I absolutely love him.

But to suggest Tom Davies is better than him is fucking weird.

Both those things can be true.

If we'd got £16m-18m I'd have thought we'd done really well.

As it is, on reflection (& considering his injury record), £13m is probably about par for the course.
Hopefully we've negotiated a sell-on and some add-ons.

 

[Slim Man]

If we'd got £16m-18m I'd have thought we'd done really well.

As it is, on reflection (& considering his injury record), £13m is probably about par for the course.
Hopefully we've negotiated a sell-on and some add-ons.

Yep. He's a mid twenties South American defensive midfielder. He's 6 foot odd but not overly quick.

I think suggesting he's worth £15m+ is pushing it

 

[Slim Man]

It’s not just the Sousa situation assuming what is being said is accurate. It’s under “market” value and by some distance imo.

What price Gus ? 13m ?

Cooper ? 6m ?

There is literally NO Shef Utd or Sunderland fan that could, hand on heart, value Jobe > Vini.

Maybe a handful.

£13m is a joke !!!

UTB

Different ages, profiles, nationalities, qualities.

They are pretty much incomparable.

For what it's worth, at the moment Souza is a better player. But that doesn't mean much.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Vaclav Cerny?

MayorOJC presume the like confirms that's something you've heard?

Pretty decent player is Cerny.
If it's £13m and him then that's a very decent deal.

 

[Reedy1889]

Cerny has been officially transfer listed this summer (didn't know the list was a real thing) so it could be on the cards. However seems Besiktas are interested too, would imagine they'd be ahead of us in the queue for him.

 

[MayorOJC]

MayorOJC presume the like confirms that's something you've heard?

Pretty decent player is Cerny.
If it's £13m and him then that's a very decent deal.

Nah just trying to bait Donnyblade into giving up some info

 

[Champagneblade]

I liked Souza last season.

I did wonder whether Selles would want a midfielder who contributed more going forwards.

Like anything, you have to reserve judgment until the ins and outs are all done.

We don’t even know how Selles wants to line up.

But as sad as it can be when players move on, and Souza did turn his career around, it’s deals like this that ensure we are solvent unlike the way our neighbours have been approaching it.

GLTTL. He seemed a good character.

 

[Bell4]

I liked Souza last season.

I did wonder whether Selles would want a midfielder who contributed more going forwards.

Like anything, you have to reserve judgment until the ins and outs are all done.

We don’t even know how Selles wants to line up.

But as sad as it can be when players move on, and Souza did turn his career around, it’s deals like this that ensure we are solvent unlike the way our neighbours have been approaching it.

GLTTL. He seemed a good character.

Onwards and upwards

Souza loves Souza

Bye bye

 

[MTBlade]

I'm definately no football expert, but if the new system has a footballing CDM and 2 box to boxes in front, i'm not sure if Souza fits in.

With that in mind, cash in if the money is right.

Is the money right? I havent got a clue as some transfers really baffle me with the money spent.

Premiership teams are paying more money for one player than whole championship clubs are worth (which really baffles me!).

What i will say is, we definately need his height replacing.

No matter how you want to play as a team, you have to match opponents height for set pieces

 

[Thrice]

I can live with losing Souza as long as we keep Hamer.

 

[Seth Rollins]

He’s not a going to be a great loss is he?? Rather him go than Hamer.

 

[Younger Dryas Blade]

Jobe is 19. One of the best players, if not the best player, in a team that just got promoted to the top flight. He's also English.

You seriously think Souza is the better prospect?

Jobe is dining out on his brothers name and is massively over rated/priced.

Also you cannot compare the 2. Jobe is an attacking midfielder, Vini is a defensive midfielder.

 

[robbiez666]

Jobe is dining out on his brothers name and is massively over rated/priced.

Also you cannot compare the 2. Jobe is an attacking midfielder, Vini is a defensive midfielder.

I wasn't

 

[Nick Jansky]

Jobe is dining out on his brothers name and is massively over rated/priced.

Also you cannot compare the 2. Jobe is an attacking midfielder, Vini is a defensive midfielder.

Jobe didn’t play as an attacking midfielder for Sunderland. I think you’ve confused him with his brother.

 

[BrisBlade]

I was thinking we'd be looking for around £15m so that's not too bad. I think Hamer and maybe Anel may follow unfortunately. They're good players who would want to be playing in top leagues. They gave us a season to get back there but probably keen to move on now I suspect.