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They're drinking it in S6, surely they're an acceptable target.
AHh I forget Chancer had bought the rights for £50m and brought it into the Elev8 range.
We'll probably not get Rosenior as he's in work in France of course and his record isn't actually anything to write home about yet. He's done ok but at hull he had a lot of backing and didn't make the play offs. Id be much happier with the QPR manager who surely must be leaving soon. He's managed in several different countries and has an impressive record. I want Wilder to stay regardless but I agree O'Neil is hardly an inspiring replacement.
What worries me about O'Neil is he has no record of success, the Wolves fans lost faith in him and he admitted he had disciplinary problems with the players and found some of them difficult to coach.
Is this still seen as a positive?
Maybe not, but his average performance over 100 games at that level (just over a point per game) says he might have. My point was that he'd need investing in just to equal those previous levels and have us surviving by the skin of our teeth, and I'm not sure he'd be the man to get us up there in the first case..
I don't know if that's sarcasm or not to be frank!?
It's bait.
Personally I'm not convinced at this stage re Rosenior. I remember a similar reputation for Michael Appleton and I didn't think much to him neither and I was proved right with him. We'll see with Rosenior but finishing 7th with a very expensively assembled Hull team is not pulling up any trees to me nor his short spell at Derby.
Agree about Appleton. A few years ago Karl Robinson was another being touted for a great future, actually he's still only 44 and far more experienced than O'Neil.Personally I'm not convinced at this stage re Rosenior. I remember a similar reputation for Michael Appleton and I didn't think much to him neither and I was proved right with him. We'll see with Rosenior but finishing 7th with a very expensively assembled Hull team is not pulling up any trees to me nor his short spell at Derby.
Finishing 7th with Strasbourg is decent but I've no idea on the quality of his squad. I'm not thinking wow, let's put it that way. I keep saying how much I'm impressed with Dave Challinor but because he's at Stockport he's low profile but his achievements are very impressive with several different clubs. Seven promotions with four clubs, he's got an average win percentage of 53% and he's been manager of the year 4 times. It's quite similar to what Wilder has achieved at his stage if his career but with more promotions.
Or you can have Ruben Selles or Gary O'Neil who have no promotions between them, no manager of the year awards, and four years management experience between them. But they're likely to say yes to the board. The last bit is cynical but I'm not impressed with the boards actions to say the least of late.
Sean Dyche, like him or not, has to be considered but he won't because he's not seen as progressive. He wins football matches though.
Personally I'd still stick with Wilder just in case I've not said that today!
Dave Challinor would be an excellent choice but can you imagine the uproar as he wouldn’t be fashionable enoughPersonally I'm not convinced at this stage re Rosenior. I remember a similar reputation for Michael Appleton and I didn't think much to him neither and I was proved right with him. We'll see with Rosenior but finishing 7th with a very expensively assembled Hull team is not pulling up any trees to me nor his short spell at Derby.
Finishing 7th with Strasbourg is decent but I've no idea on the quality of his squad. I'm not thinking wow, let's put it that way. I keep saying how much I'm impressed with Dave Challinor but because he's at Stockport he's low profile but his achievements are very impressive with several different clubs. Seven promotions with four clubs, he's got an average win percentage of 53% and he's been manager of the year 4 times. It's quite similar to what Wilder has achieved at his stage if his career but with more promotions.
Or you can have Ruben Selles or Gary O'Neil who have no promotions between them, no manager of the year awards, and four years management experience between them. But they're likely to say yes to the board. The last bit is cynical but I'm not impressed with the boards actions to say the least of late.
Sean Dyche, like him or not, has to be considered but he won't because he's not seen as progressive. He wins football matches though.
Personally I'd still stick with Wilder just in case I've not said that today!
Totally. But he's a far better choice in my opinion than anyone else I've heard linked. If he can work with the boards recruitment approach then he'd be an excellent choice in my opinion.
You’re saying Challinor would be better than all of those?Personally I'm not convinced at this stage re Rosenior. I remember a similar reputation for Michael Appleton and I didn't think much to him neither and I was proved right with him. We'll see with Rosenior but finishing 7th with a very expensively assembled Hull team is not pulling up any trees to me nor his short spell at Derby.
Finishing 7th with Strasbourg is decent but I've no idea on the quality of his squad. I'm not thinking wow, let's put it that way. I keep saying how much I'm impressed with Dave Challinor but because he's at Stockport he's low profile but his achievements are very impressive with several different clubs. Seven promotions with four clubs, he's got an average win percentage of 53% and he's been manager of the year 4 times. It's quite similar to what Wilder has achieved at his stage if his career but with more promotions.
Or you can have Ruben Selles or Gary O'Neil who have no promotions between them, no manager of the year awards, and four years management experience between them. But they're likely to say yes to the board. The last bit is cynical but I'm not impressed with the boards actions to say the least of late.
Sean Dyche, like him or not, has to be considered but he won't because he's not seen as progressive. He wins football matches though.
Personally I'd still stick with Wilder just in case I've not said that today!
It wouldn't be bad, if we didn't need some decent players to make the 1st team work..... Benie Traore..., Anus Slimane..., Ivo Garbage..., we dont need anymore shite, whether it fills an afternoon of dominoes and bitter or not, we need to recruit players that can hit the ground and make a difference, this AI bollocks is only any good, if the players are from leagues equivalent to ours, or atleast something very special and young, like Illiman, Blaster or Peck for example.
I'm saying he's got an excellent record managing football clubs of a small size a X budget which is not easy and he's done well everywhere he's gone.
Sorry if the good grief upset you, that wasn’t my intention. I just think that we should be aiming higher.
It didn't upset me at all but I just think it's not radical or an unreasonable shout to say Challinor is a far better candidate then the ones linked. O'Neil may have done well at wolves in his first season with a very good team and I know they sold players but I think they were in the relegation zone and four points adrift when he was sacked by wolves and we all know that the championship teams are some way off the PL ones but O'Neil bridged the gap.Sorry if the good grief upset you, that wasn’t my intention. I just think that we should be aiming higher.
We are going to differ and that’s fine
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