New Manager ?

[PrestwichBlade]

Well as two of them are young and come from Bulgaria, the other from Peru, what do you expect me to think? If the signings were for experienced internationals then fair enough. We need 3/4 quality additions ready to go straight into the team. So far the signings from AI are not convincing me that these are ready now to go in. Maybe the fact Wilder never played Cecares has gone against him also. He's 23 in September but never played for Peru who are not a good side I might add.

And you actually believe they're bought as first team signings, ready to go straight in?! Good grief

 

[loyalblade95]

Not the biggest fan of his style of play but IF Wilder goes, I would go for Dyche.

Yes he's a defensively minded manager who gets criticised for playing boring football (a bit harsh on him IMO), but he has been promoted twice from this league with Burnley, similar situations to when we've been promoted under Wilder and Hecky (hardworking teams built on a budget).

I know quite a few Blades want a more modern, progressive manager (I get why as they prefer the modern approach and want United to move forward) but is that what we need, or do we need a more proven experienced (even if the football is a bit boring) to get us over the line in the here and now.

 

[DI36O]

I just want a bit of entertaining , exciting football. 90 (92) points and can count on one hand (maybe a mutant 6 finger hand) the number of games we truly bossed. It was a much better season on paper than from the stands.

Wilder knows how to win at this level, no doubt.. but given the strength and cost of our squad, I'd like to see "the beautiful game" at BDTBL for a bit. It would make the grim reality of a season in the Prem far more bearable.

The key stat for me from last year was "10th in the league for Big Chances created".

Norwich outscored us comfortably and were 3rd in big chances created with their pullovered obscure continental manager. Will you be happy with 13th?

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

If they sack Wilder, I hope they have a truly outstanding manager lined up, otherwise they will sorely regret listening to the very small number of very loud voices on here that want Wilder to go.

Let's hope the grass is actually greener.

Small number? Where did you get that idea from?

 

[Nick Jansky]

Would prefer ex Hull manager Rosenior myself

So would I, but there’s no chance.

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

60% of the subset of fans on here? Ok thanks for the useful info!

Ah ok, so just because the majority don’t agree with your opinion, they’re all idiots? Bet you’re one of those remoaners?!!

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

So would I, but there’s no chance.

Why no chance?

 

[Booker4]

An extremely short termist view. As I have said previously, none of us have a clue whether promotion next season is critical to the new owners. Perhaps they consider it more important to be commencing the building of something that is fit to move the club forward in a progressive manner and could maybe eventually establish us in the EPL.

I guess we’ll see. Hopefully they’ll ignore the noise from those who are stuck in the past and terrified of change. I know I would if I was them.

With respect, you know as well as anyone else that without parachute payments it is very difficult to get promoted unless you've got serious, serious money for backing. Nobody knows what the backing is from the new owners but we need to get promoted next season before Burnley, Sunderland and another come down with much bigger budgets and quality players then we'll have because it's highly likely the better players leave. Teams who stay in the championship for years after relegation don't get stronger, they get weaker unless, as I say, that team has serious billionaire money.

I'm not confident that sacking Wilder is the right approach at all.

 

[Silky Sabella]

When the telegraph make statements like this, you know there is no smoke without fire

 

[Nick Jansky]

Ah ok, so just because the majority don’t agree with your opinion, they’re all idiots? Bet you’re one of those remoaners?!!

At a guess, the majority of the Wilder fan club are probably on the other side of that argument. Which doesn’t need resurrecting in this thread, by the way.

 

[Booker4]

And you actually believe they're bought as first team signings, ready to go straight in?! Good grief

No, but we need first team signings ready to go in! Cecares is 23 in September so at that age how long do you think he should be developing? If it's true that all the boards signings need to be AI driven then some of them need to be quality signings for now. Also a manager needs to have at the very least a final word on who he wants as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Kenworthy’s Tash]

At a guess, the majority of the Wilder fan club are probably on the other side of that argument. Which doesn’t need resurrecting in this thread, by the way.

Calm down son, it was only a throw away comment

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

Norwich outscored us comfortably and were 3rd in big chances created with their pullovered obscure continental manager. Will you be happy with 13th?

I'm not bothered about Norwich, I just expect better from us given the players at our disposal, and the budget given to the manager (especially January onwards)

 

[HeySethUTB]

Wilfried Nancy

Great shout, his tactics are very strange but my god does it scramble the brains of the opposition. I’d love it if we appointed this guy.

Creating false counter attacks, quick transitions, hardworking press, overloads out wide with central midfielders and quick switches of play so wingers have tonnes of one on one opportunities.

 

[DeanLearner'sCat]

This isn't great from the new owners. You unnecessarily give a guy a new 3 year deal and then sack him 6 months later. And seemingly haven't even communicated this to him. He talked of how supportive they were after the Play Off final just weeks ago, so what changed? Was he not sufficiently excited to get another youngster from the Bulgarian league?

They're new to this and it's fine if they get the next appointment right, but I hope it doesn't become a habit. Nobody wants to be Watford or Hull.

 

[Charlieblade]

Sausage Rohl for me.

I don't rate him at all, but talk about lighting the blue touchpaper and standing back. NKT would go into uber meltdown.

If he can manage a shit house bunch like them, with a dictator in charge, and nothing to spend, imagine what he might be capable of with United’s resources?

I haven’t looked, but I think they manage mid table respectability under Rohl.

 

[DI36O]

Why no chance?

He's just got Strasbourg into Europe

 

[Nick Jansky]

With respect, you know as well as anyone else that without parachute payments it is very difficult to get promoted unless you've got serious, serious money for backing. Nobody knows what the backing is from the new owners but we need to get promoted next season before Burnley, Sunderland and another come down with much bigger budgets and quality players then we'll have because it's highly likely the better players leave. Teams who stay in the championship for years after relegation don't get stronger, they get weaker unless, as I say, that team has serious billionaire money.

I'm not confident that sacking Wilder is the right approach at all.

I get what you’re saying, but Sunderland and Luton have gone up without parachute payments, as did Forest not so long ago. So more difficult, but by no means impossible.

Maybe the owners are happy to fund something that will give us more chance of going up and staying up? That won’t happen in a season, but possibly we are seeing the first steps away from short term season to season thinking. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[PrestwichBlade]

No, but we need first team signings ready to go in! Cecares is 23 in September so at that age how long do you think he should be developing? If it's true that all the boards signings need to be AI driven then some of them need to be quality signings for now. Also a manager needs to have at the very least a final word on who he wants as far as I'm concerned.

Of course we do, but there's nothing to suggest that won't happen. I'm not sure either that it's been said that "all" signings would be AI driven

 

[harrry1990s]

Incoming: Danny Röhl.
they are just in it for the laughs.

 

[Youngand70]

It's not new information though is it? Agreed that the suggestion is that Wilder doesn't like this structure, but that's definitely nothing new.

Correct it's not new information, clubs in Europe and many other countries around the world have had the Director of Football/Sporting Director and "coach" structure for years. Including all the successful ones who actually win something. The Premier League/Championship has been going down the same route for quite a while also. Last season only Southampton didn't have a Director of Football/Sporting Director. Wilder has been quoted as not been willing to work in such a structure and his buddy Bettis made a clear statement in The Star in May last year that we were definitely not having a Director Football and we didn't think it was the way forward. So should we take it the "Sheffield United Way" is better than the vast majority of clubs throughout "modern footballing" world?

 

[I should coco]

Absolutely not.

Not even thinking about Rohl's ability as a manager (FWIW I think Wilder is better than him), but just on the principle I wouldn't want us to be their escape route for catching up with their unpaid wages.

Wooosh!

I wasn't being entirely serious, hence my point about enjoying the the Owlstalk meltdown.

Memo to self - make any 'jokes' or 'irony' more obvious, for the hard of reading.

 

[MayorOJC]

Great shout, his tactics are very strange but my god does it scramble the brains of the opposition. I’d love it if we appointed this guy

Hamer and O'Hare playing Nancyball, yes please

 

[Booker4]

At a guess, the majority of the Wilder fan club are probably on the other side of that argument. Which doesn’t need resurrecting in this thread, by the way.

I'm not in the Wilder fan club as you put it. I support SUFC. I also voted to remain in Brexit btw but I am supportive of Chris Wilder because he's a damn good manager, especially in the championship and even more so with us. The win percentage and achievements over his tenure state he's a good manager.

 

[Shadota]

Wooosh!

I wasn't being entirely serious, hence my point about enjoying the the Owlstalk meltdown.

Memo to self - make any 'jokes' or 'irony' more obvious, for the hard of reading.

Fair enough. However, considering the existence of this thread, I couldn't be sure if you were speaking in jest or not:

Incoming? - Danny Rohl?

Told a 'conversation' had taken place a couple of weeks ago Rubbished it as bullshit Apparently gaining traction on socials Stranger things have happened...

www.s24su.com

 

[Nick Jansky]

I'm not in the Wilder fan club as you put it. I support SUFC. I also voted to remain in Brexit btw but I am supportive of Chris Wilder because he's a damn good manager, especially in the championship and even more so with us. The win percentage and achievements over his tenure state he's a good manager.

He has been an excellent manager, still more than capable, but I think that the game has started to move away from him in recent years. The pace of change has been dramatic.

 

[Booker4]

Of course we do, but there's nothing to suggest that won't happen. I'm not sure either that it's been said that "all" signings would be AI driven

It was said by the board in their recent statement that signings will be AI driven, it didn't go into detail on what percentage will be AI to manager led I'd guess but the statement seemed clear to me that AI will be the way going forward.

 

[HeySethUTB]

Hamer and O'Hare playing Nancyball, yes please

Definitely. He’s worked miracles at different clubs, won’t be long until a big club comes calling.

 

[Houso]

Any shred of evidence other than it’s what you think

Apologies that my choice of verbs of imagine and think were not clear enough so show it was my opinion. Didn't realise we had to back everything up these days with a evidence.

 

[Cappy]

I had it on good assurance that The Prince spoke to Roy Keane when he was looking at options when Hecky was going to be sacked. Irrelevant now, but it shows he's one who must still be interested in jobs to be talking with an owner

This is from an old thread. Unsure if this was a Prince-led or Bettis-led decision to talk to Keane. New owners now, but same CEO.