Failure to control our players

[dexter101]

The issue is half a million quid, that should be quite easy to understand.

It’s had no impact whatsoever on where we finished. But crack on with your go fund me page, let us know how you get on.

I would disagree. This side have spent the season scrapping. It's not been pretty but I would argue we have seen so much commitment from this squad. You can't just turn it on and off.

Yes it's a bit silly and all handbags but I want to see a side that is up for the fight. Its not about playing dirty (which I actually don't think we are) but it's about making it clear that we won't be bullied.

What I don't understand is how we have racked up that much in fines for in effect, lots of pushing and shoving?

If we were getting red cards for dangerous play and getting fined, I would understand but we aren't?

 

[WayneAllison]

500k down the drain


Embarrassing really from the players and management


Fair enough if one of your players gets a leg broken and it all kicks off but the majority of the fines we have had have been caused by our behaviour

Not my 500k like

 

[Harry's Game]

The Plymouth one was the only one that we were at fault for .. all the others were provoked by the opposition..

The Plymouth fine should come out of the players and manger salaries

 

[The Bohemian]

Blades get promptly whacked with escalating fines for a few minor indiscretions - based on the idea of repeated misconduct.

Meanwhile, a club across the Pennines continues to avoid punishment for repeatedly cheating (130 charges and counting) over many years.

It’s the petty thief getting his hand chopped off while the corrupt Lord with expensive lawyers and friends in high places just makes the problem go away.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I would disagree. This side have spent the season scrapping. It's not been pretty but I would argue we have seen so much commitment from this squad. You can't just turn it on and off.

Yes it's a bit silly and all handbags but I want to see a side that is up for the fight. Its not about playing dirty (which I actually don't think we are) but it's about making it clear that we won't be bullied.

What I don't understand is how we have racked up that much in fines for in effect, lots of pushing and shoving?

If we were getting red cards for dangerous play and getting fined, I would understand but we aren't?

Anyone who isn’t thick would have realised after the 2nd time what was going to happen if they carried on doing it. If they decided they were going to carry on reacting to provocation in that way they should be paying the fines, not the club. No doubt opposition players sussed quite quickly that our players weren’t strong minded enough to walk away from it so have probably done it deliberately knowing they will get a reaction.

 

[BigBed]

Sorry, I rather have a group of players with some heart, that play for eachother, have eachothers back, stick up for eachother, than a team that doesn't.
It's what a Sheff Utd team is all about isn't it?

 

[steve26272]

Anyone who isn’t thick would have realised after the 2nd time what was going to happen if they carried on doing it. If they decided they were going to carry on reacting to provocation in that way they should be paying the fines, not the club. No doubt opposition players sussed quite quickly that our players weren’t strong minded enough to walk away from it so have probably done it deliberately knowing they will get a reaction.

Problem is there are some thicko’s about

And the ones involved on the pitch aren’t ruled out of that quota

6 fines in 46 games is one every 7, imagine if every 7 days at work you was a bit of a bell end and got lippy

But, if that ‘in the trenches’ gets us up satdi, the £500k will be small change

 

[CaptainMorgans]

The Plymouth one was the only one that we were at fault for .. all the others were provoked by the opposition..

The Plymouth fine should come out of the players and manger salaries

I think there's been too many for us to use that argument with a straight face.

 

[Cappy]

imagine if every 7 days at work you was a bit of a bell end

 

[dexter101]

Anyone who isn’t thick would have realised after the 2nd time what was going to happen if they carried on doing it. If they decided they were going to carry on reacting to provocation in that way they should be paying the fines, not the club. No doubt opposition players sussed quite quickly that our players weren’t strong minded enough to walk away from it so have probably done it deliberately knowing they will get a reaction.

But that's the point. If they are consciously going into games to cause a... what ever it is that a group of men pushing each other around a bit is called, then that's daft. But I would say the way we play at the moment, is heart on the sleeve, full of emotion. Sometimes that spills over and I would rather that than ice cold football which potentially wouldn't have got us over the line of a lot of games.

Look at the celebration at the end of Bristol away when Burrows scored. That wasn't cold, calculated football, that was passion and desire.

It's hard to have both

It's wilders job to try and find the line

 

[Nick Jansky]

“We can’t loan a centre half in January who might get us over the line because we’ve had to budget half of their wages for fines.”

 

[Shadota]

Utterly absurd to have pissed almost half a million quid away because the players (and staff at times), have failed to behave like adults.

Much discussion above of players standing up for each other. And while its great that they're such a close knit bunch, they are not required to exhibit a mob mentality over every slight, perceived or otherwise, over the course of the season.

If us mere mortals in this forum behaved in a manner akin to some of the incidents the players have had this season, we'd likely have been arrested. So why are people sticking up for it? Screams double standard to me.

 

[RecordBreakers]

Who cares it's petty change after Saturday

 

[Blade56]

Points deduction start of next season if we don’t go up

 

[skegblade]

Its bad when they allege this at a hope to be premiership club,worse when the comments appear to be aimed at the manager,post wendy celebrations and the tunnel "incident"
Wonder if cw will pay his share or will the club foot the billl,the new owners might take a dim viewm especially if it goes tits up saturday

 

[Blademan89]

Utterly absurd to have pissed almost half a million quid away because the players (and staff at times), have failed to behave like adults.

Much discussion above of players standing up for each other. And while its great that they're such a close knit bunch, they are not required to exhibit a mob mentality over every slight, perceived or otherwise, over the course of the season.

If us mere mortals in this forum behaved in a manner akin to some of the incidents the players have had this season, we'd likely have been arrested. So why are people sticking up for it? Screams double standard to me.

Not sure id want you in the trenches along side me with that view.

If my mate is being surrounded by 3 or 4 players or even 2, im going to back them up.

You don't just leave your team mate to be bullied and mobbed by anyone.

Likewise if I was the player being surrounded and no other team mate backs me up and they all walk away then im thinking sod this team and these players I don't want to play for them.

Stand by your teammates and good on us for doing so and not allowing anyone to intimate us.

 

[Shadota]

Not sure id want you in the trenches along side me with that view.

If my mate is being surrounded by 3 or 4 players or even 2, im going to back them up.

You don't just leave your team mate to be bullied and mobbed by anyone.

Likewise if I was the player being surrounded and no other team mate backs me up and they all walk away then im thinking sod this team and these players I don't want to play for them.

Stand by your teammates and good on us for doing so and not allowing anyone to intimate us.

If you want trenches, go back to World War II.

You want a fight, go to combat sports.

I don't particularly care if you'd want me"in the trenches" or not.

My point was not that one player is left to find for themselves. My point is that none of them should be engaging in the infantile behaviour that's earned us 500k in fines this season alone.

Players should support one another, and I don't doubt that the current squad does exactly that. But they can do that without acting like children.

We've proven ourselves good enough at winning games of football this season, that if an opponent wants to wind us up, we should retort by winning the bloody game, not by getting into a shitty shoving match.

If the players want to do that, they should take up ice hockey. It's even encouraged by the officials ffs.

 

[AWetFlannel]

If us mere mortals in this forum behaved in a manner akin to some of the incidents the players have had this season, we'd likely have been arrested. So why are people sticking up for it? Screams double standard to me.

Would squaring up to someone and pushing a bit get you arrested? We'd have to double the country's prison capacity if that was enforced.

 

[lazyfecklessblade]

So the players need to be fired up for games, be aggressive and show passion - but not be aggressive or passionate at the wrong times as we need to be cool and calculated.


Fire in their hearts and ice in their veins at the same time. I know it’s just a metaphor but that sounds like a nightmare - how would you keep the temperatures separate. Peltier elements? Heat sinks?

 

[PrestwichBlade]

If you want trenches, go back to World War II.

You want a fight, go to combat sports.

I don't particularly care if you'd want me"in the trenches" or not.

My point was not that one player is left to find for themselves. My point is that none of them should be engaging in the infantile behaviour that's earned us 500k in fines this season alone.

Players should support one another, and I don't doubt that the current squad does exactly that. But they can do that without acting like children.

We've proven ourselves good enough at winning games of football this season, that if an opponent wants to wind us up, we should retort by winning the bloody game, not by getting into a shitty shoving match.

If the players want to do that, they should take up ice hockey. It's even encouraged by the officials ffs.

I was actually going to reply to you last night and mention "something, something trenches..." and lo and behold... ridiculous, anyone would think we're going over the top!

 

[ATL Recs]

But that's the point. If they are consciously going into games to cause a... what ever it is that a group of men pushing each other around a bit is called, then that's daft. But I would say the way we play at the moment, is heart on the sleeve, full of emotion. Sometimes that spills over and I would rather that than ice cold football which potentially wouldn't have got us over the line of a lot of games.

Look at the celebration at the end of Bristol away when Burrows scored. That wasn't cold, calculated football, that was passion and desire.

It's hard to have both

It's wilders job to try and find the line

And it’s what all professionals do regardless of if they score for us or Peterborough

 

[skegblade]

Would squaring up to someone and pushing a bit get you arrested? We'd have to double the country's prison capacity if that was enforced.

Writing on social media gets a prison sentence

 

[Gin&Juice]

At the this point, we’re basically the Championship version of the late 1980’s Detroit Pistons team.

 

[AWetFlannel]

Writing on social media gets a prison sentence

Yeah, these days, if you say you're English you get arrested and thrown in jail!

 

[Zeblades34]

Into em.

 

[Rodley]

 

[ormester]

Blades get promptly whacked with escalating fines for a few minor indiscretions - based on the idea of repeated misconduct.

Meanwhile, a club across the Pennines continues to avoid punishment for repeatedly cheating (130 charges and counting) over many years.

It’s the petty thief getting his hand chopped off while the corrupt Lord with expensive lawyers and friends in high places just makes the problem go away.

Exactly

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Except it isn't pocket change.

Our margins are quite tight, and likely can't (and shouldn't have to) absorb £500k in fines for stuff like this.

There's obviously some nuance around not being a soft-touch etc. but no other club in the division has racked up this level of fines.
We surely can't say that everyone else is just "a fanny" (to coin Frank the tank 's favourite phrase) except us.

We've clearly gone a bit OTT too many times and it needs reigning in.

But I'll repeat, it has been quite funny to watch...
Very Dog & Duck, and I'd not expect much else with Wilder, Robinson, Choudhury, Peck, Souza, Hamer, Anel etc. as our lead personalities.
Good times.

 

[Champagneblade]

Well as long as all teams are being treated equally, eh?

As of now, there have been no reported fines or further disciplinary actions imposed on Burnley by the FA concerning either the pitch invasion or the scuffle at West Brom. However, the FA’s investigation into the pitch invasion remains ongoing, and potential sanctions may be announced upon its conclusion.

In response to the incident, the Football Association (FA) charged Nottingham Forest with a breach of FA Rule E20, which mandates that clubs ensure their spectators conduct themselves in an orderly fashion and refrain from using threatening or violent behavior. Forest partially admitted to the charge, specifically acknowledging a failure to adequately protect the tunnel and technical areas. Consequently, the club was fined £50,000, with half of the fine suspended until the end of the 2023–24 season, contingent upon no further breaches of FA Rule E20 during that period .
So, nothing at all for Burnley and half of a 50k fine for Forest. Meanwhile we’re don’t about 450k for handbags at dawn a handful of times with no prison sentences, banning orders or hospitalisation a as result.