Down memory Lane.....this day

[Sharrowblade]

43 years ago, 30th January 1971.

John Hope and Trevor Hockey make their debuts in a 2-1 at Oxford.

We'll not mention the Oxford No 11 that day

 

[Silent Blade]

I remember the few days leading up to the match well. On the Wednesday evening my mum heard from Calendar news that we had signed Trevor Hockey from Birmingham and told me so. I think our last signing was John Barnwell and Billy Dearden on the same day 9 months earlier so I had thought we had signed a good player despite that I had not heard of him (I do not remember seeing him playing against us when we won 1-0 at St Andrews in October 1970). I told my dad about new signing when he came home from work.

The next morning was a bombshell to me because I was still in bed about to get ready for school, my dad had rushed home with the Morning Telegraph (he was supposed to be on his way to work at William Lees) then came to my bedroom to show me the report that we had sold John Tudor to Newcastle. I was upset at the news, not really paying attention that we had signed John Hope and David Ford in exchange. I looked at the photo of Tudor, Hope, Ford, the managers John Harris and Joe Harvey (Newcastle) and I couldnt help noticing that John Tudor looked pleased that he had left us and told my dad so! My dad tried to reassure me that this happens in football as it was difficult for him to explain that to his son who has followed football for just over a year.

I think my dad wasnt intending to go to the Oxford match (his car broke down in Luton 7 weeks earlier) so after the signings decided that we go to Oxford. Hope played really well (mamy Blades fans including a teacher at my school thought Hope was signed as a reserve keeper) and I was surprised to see Hockey (I had not seen a photo of him) with a beard and I thought it was quite amusing and he had a good game too! After the match, my dad's car broke down again!

 

[Grecian2000]

67 years ago today, 29th January 1947, and United's rarest post war programme in league or Cup.

Over 42,000 watched a 2-0 win for the Blades on a wednesday afternoon against Wolves on a pitch which was covered with ice and snow

Why's it so rare Shazzler?

A 42k crowd should have seen a fair few sold shouldn't it?

 

[Sharrowblade]

I remember the few days leading up to the match well. On the Wednesday evening my mum heard from Calendar news that we had signed Trevor Hockey from Birmingham and told me so. I think our last signing was John Barnwell and Billy Dearden on the same day 9 months earlier so I had thought we had signed a good player despite that I had not heard of him (I do not remember seeing him playing against us when we won 1-0 at St Andrews in October 1970). I told my dad about new signing when he came home from work.

The next morning was a bombshell to me because I was still in bed about to get ready for school, my dad had rushed home with the Morning Telegraph (he was supposed to be on his way to work at William Lees) then came to my bedroom to show me the report that we had sold John Tudor to Newcastle. I was upset at the news, not really paying attention that we had signed John Hope and David Ford in exchange. I looked at the photo of Tudor, Hope, Ford, the managers John Harris and Joe Harvey (Newcastle) and I couldnt help noticing that John Tudor looked pleased that he had left us and told my dad so! My dad tried to reassure me that this happens in football as it was difficult for him to explain that to his son who has followed football for just over a year.

I think my dad wasnt intending to go to the Oxford match (his car broke down in Luton 7 weeks earlier) so after the signings decided that we go to Oxford. Hope played really well (mamy Blades fans including a teacher at my school thought Hope was signed as a reserve keeper) and I was surprised to see Hockey (I had not seen a photo of him) with a beard and I thought it was quite amusing and he had a good game too! After the match, my dad's car broke down again!

What kind of car did he have Silent, at that time, we had a Maxi, which did ok, whereas me grand-dad had an Austin Cambridge, which was bright yellow and never got out of second gear

 

[Darren]

Why's it so rare Shazzler?

A 42k crowd should have seen a fair few sold shouldn't it?

Probably beacuse it was just a single sheet and most people threw it away. I believe it was a single sheet because was rearranged at short notice so they didn't have time to print many anyway.

CF the West Ham game in Feb 63.

 

[Sharrowblade]

Why's it so rare Shazzler?

A 42k crowd should have seen a fair few sold shouldn't it?

I suspect that they didn't expect the match to be played, and therefore only had a small print run of these single sheets.

Of those that were printed, no doubt many perished on the day, probably scrwed up and just thrown on the floor.

 

[Silent Blade]

What kind of car did he have Silent, at that time, we had a Maxi, which did ok, whereas me grand-dad had an Austin Cambridge, which was bright yellow and never got out of second gear

It was a big black car but I am afraid I do not know what make it was! My dad passed away in 1999, I texted my mum and my sister tonight, they remember the car but do not remember the make! The previous car was a Morris Minor and the car my dad owned after the black car (I remember the front wheel coming off at Spital Hill!) was a Vanden Plas

 

[Dnblade]

It was a big black car but I am afraid I do not know what make it was! My dad passed away in 1999, I texted my mum and my sister tonight, they remember the car but do not remember the make! The previous car was a Morris Minor and the car my dad owned after the black car (I remember the front wheel coming off at Spital Hill!) was a Vanden Plas

People used to mistake my Dad's Morris Minor works van for one of those..I often got asked..'is it da Dad's Van den'.

 

[Sirius]

67 years ago today, 29th January 1947, and United's rarest post war programme in league or Cup.

Over 42,000 watched a 2-0 win for the Blades on a wednesday afternoon against Wolves on a pitch which was covered with ice and snow

If you've got one of these knocking about. Congratulations.

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Unfortunately I don't have the programme. I wondered what it is worth; by writing in the changes, does that affect its value?

 

[Sharrowblade]

Unfortunately I don't have the programme. I wondered what it is worth; by writing in the changes, does that affect its value?

Good question. Ordinarily, yes, most collectors prefer an unmarked programme, (i.e no writing). However, its really a matter of preference. Some collectors don't mind as they will argue it provides a record of the game, and they can pick up programmes cheaper. Personally, programmes with team changes are not for me.

The exception would possibly be a very rare foreign friendly, I would then have to consider it carefully, but again it would effect my valuation.

Many dealers don't consider team changes inside a programme as being detrimental to the value, only on the front. but they wouldn't would they? After all they have to try and sell a lot of these.

What's it worth, I suppose what someone is willing to pay for it. Definately, four figures.

 

[Darren]

Good question. Ordinarily, yes, most collectors prefer an unmarked programme, (i.e no writing). However, its really a matter of preference. Some collectors don't mind as they will argue it provides a record of the game, and they can pick up programmes cheaper. Personally, programmes with team changes are not for me.

The exception would possibly be a very rare foreign friendly, I would then have to consider it carefully, but again it would effect my valuation.

Many dealers don't consider team changes inside a programme as being detrimental to the value, only on the front. but they wouldn't would they? After all they have to try and sell a lot of these.

What's it worth, I suppose what someone is willing to pay for it. Definately, four figures.

Don't you keep all your programmes in plastic bags

 

[Sharrowblade]

Don't you keep all your programmes in plastic bags

Funnily enough Dazzler, no I don't.

Can't afford them archival grade acid free bags which are the recommended ones, and mine's only a smallish collection.

As long, as they are kept in a dry enviroment, away from sunlight, out of reach of the kids and out of sight to the wife, they will be okay. (No garages or Attics).

 

[Silent Blade]

January 31st 1970

Hull 2 Blades 3

Two goals by Ken Wagstaffe stunned us but we fight back with goals by Colin Addison (2) and Eddie Colquhoun, all goals assisted by Woody.

The link below shows two goals by Wagstaffe but unfortunately doesnt show any of our goals although they are in the YTV video produced in 1993

 

[Darren]

Funnily enough Dazzler, no I don't.

Can't afford them archival grade acid free bags which are the recommended ones, and mine's only a smallish collection.

As long, as they are kept in a dry enviroment, away from sunlight, out of reach of the kids and out of sight to the wife, they will be okay. (No garages or Attics).

Yours is small???? I dread to think what a large one is like

For what it's worth my collection is every home one from 62-3 (apart from the West Ham one that season) and every away one since 75-6. I count a complete season as including league, FA Cup and League Cup games. I also have a number of friendly, testimonial and minor cup games, but I don't get frustrated if I don't have that single sheet County Cup one from 75-6

I keep them in numerous cupboards dotted all over the house. I also have 3000 odd books so space is at a premium!

 

[Jon Bon]

Apologies for the shit quality.

From the centre pages of Shoot! magazine. I had this pinned up on my bedroom wall.

 

[Jon Bon]

4th January 1964 (49 years ago) United win 4-0 at Lincoln in the Cup (Wagstaff, Hartle and Jones (2))
What made its appearance allegedly for the first time at a Blades Match?

Was it Curtis? Oh no, that's yet to happen..

Just want to say that I love this thread Sharrow. Keep it up.

 

[Sharrowblade]

Thanks Jon Bon, I'd forgotten about this one. What made its appearance at Lincoln for the first time at a Blades Match.

Apparently it was the first time that United supporters had been involved in the most heinous of crimes.

Throwing bog roll onto the pitch

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

I remember the few days leading up to the match well. On the Wednesday evening my mum heard from Calendar news that we had signed Trevor Hockey from Birmingham and told me so. I think our last signing was John Barnwell and Billy Dearden on the same day 9 months earlier so I had thought we had signed a good player despite that I had not heard of him (I do not remember seeing him playing against us when we won 1-0 at St Andrews in October 1970).

Hockey was regularly featured while at Birmingham in the Football League Review, a magazine inserted inside the match programme at every game. There was a feature in each FLR in which female readers voted for the best-looking players at the time and Hockey, minus beard, was often in the Top Ten. As I recall there was a lot of block voting and George Best seemed to win it every other week. The only United player who ever featured was David Munks, as far as I can remember.

 

[Silent Blade]

Thanks Jon Bon, I'd forgotten about this one. What made its appearance at Lincoln for the first time at a Blades Match.

Apparently it was the first time that United supporters had been involved in the most heinous of crimes.

Throwing bog roll onto the pitch

An older Blade remembers the match well because a wooden bridge near the Sincil Bank ground had collapsed before the match due to many spectators walking over it

 

[Kenilworth]

Ah, shit

I've forgotten what I was going to say now

 

[Silent Blade]

6th February 1971... Blades 2 Luton Town 1

Before the match the division 2 table looked like this
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/tournament/points.html?date=1971-01-30;event=9;season=1970/71

attendance was nearly 31,000. I had to sit in the old JSS (in the BL/JS corner- that area was closed for safety reasons some years later) because my dad was too late to get seats for the BLUT where we usually sat as he didnt really expect a large crowd. Malcolm MacDonald had boasted in a newspaper article that he found it easy to play against division two centre backs.

After a goalless first half, Woody put us ahead by diverting a low cross past Tony Read. The second goal was quite spectacular. Woody took a corner from the right (I was right in line behind the corner) and it was half cleared but the quick thinking Woody raced to the 6 yard box to fire in a volley past the helpless Read. We could have had a third when Woody was tripped in the penalty box after a solo run and the ref awarded us a penalty. TC took the spot kick but his effort crashed against the bar and back into play. Near the end of the match Jim Ryan reduced the arrears. At the end of the game the disconsolate MacDonald walked off the pitch and Eddie Colquhoun (who had SuperMac in his pocket throughout the game as he is one of the few CBs who could match SuperMac's pace) sarcastically slow handclapped him in response to SuperMac's boast in the papers!

 

[2ndtenorblade]

6th February 1971... Blades 2 Luton Town 1

Before the match the division 2 table looked like this
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/tournament/points.html?date=1971-01-30;event=9;season=1970/71

attendance was nearly 31,000. I had to sit in the old JSS (in the BL/JS corner- that area was closed for safety reasons some years later) because my dad was too late to get seats for the BLUT where we usually sat as he didnt really expect a large crowd. Malcolm MacDonald had boasted in a newspaper article that he found it easy to play against division two centre backs.

After a goalless first half, Woody put us ahead by diverting a low cross past Tony Read. The second goal was quite spectacular. Woody took a corner from the right (I was right in line behind the corner) and it was half cleared but the quick thinking Woody raced to the 6 yard box to fire in a volley past the helpless Read. We could have had a third when Woody was tripped in the penalty box after a solo run and the ref awarded us a penalty. TC took the spot kick but his effort crashed against the bar and back into play. Near the end of the match Jim Ryan reduced the arrears. At the end of the game the disconsolate MacDonald walked off the pitch and Eddie Colquhoun (who had SuperMac in his pocket throughout the game as he is one of the few CBs who could match SuperMac's pace) sarcastically slow handclapped him in response to SuperMac's boast in the papers!

I remember this, supertwat got some stick from the fans that day,
.

 

[Sirius]

Yours is small???? I dread to think what a large one is like

For what it's worth my collection is every home one from 62-3 (apart from the West Ham one that season) and every away one since 75-6. I count a complete season as including league, FA Cup and League Cup games. I also have a number of friendly, testimonial and minor cup games, but I don't get frustrated if I don't have that single sheet County Cup one from 75-6

I keep them in numerous cupboards dotted all over the house. I also have 3000 odd books so space is at a premium!

My Dad always suggested that I should note the scorers and my view on a game, on a separate sheet of paper when I first started going to the Lane. Unfortunately that was another piece of good advice that I ignored.. I had around 300 programmes but passed them on when I came to New Zealand.

 

[Shalalalafenoughty]

6th February 1971... Blades 2 Luton Town 1

Before the match the division 2 table looked like this
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/tournament/points.html?date=1971-01-30;event=9;season=1970/71

attendance was nearly 31,000. I had to sit in the old JSS (in the BL/JS corner- that area was closed for safety reasons some years later) because my dad was too late to get seats for the BLUT where we usually sat as he didnt really expect a large crowd. Malcolm MacDonald had boasted in a newspaper article that he found it easy to play against division two centre backs.

After a goalless first half, Woody put us ahead by diverting a low cross past Tony Read. The second goal was quite spectacular. Woody took a corner from the right (I was right in line behind the corner) and it was half cleared but the quick thinking Woody raced to the 6 yard box to fire in a volley past the helpless Read. We could have had a third when Woody was tripped in the penalty box after a solo run and the ref awarded us a penalty. TC took the spot kick but his effort crashed against the bar and back into play. Near the end of the match Jim Ryan reduced the arrears. At the end of the game the disconsolate MacDonald walked off the pitch and Eddie Colquhoun (who had SuperMac in his pocket throughout the game as he is one of the few CBs who could match SuperMac's pace) sarcastically slow handclapped him in response to SuperMac's boast in the papers!

John Hope refused to watch the penalty being taken - he crouched in the back of his net at the Kop end, looking at the crowd.

 

[Lane Ender]

6th February 1971... Blades 2 Luton Town 1

Before the match the division 2 table looked like this
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/tournament/points.html?date=1971-01-30;event=9;season=1970/71

attendance was nearly 31,000. I had to sit in the old JSS (in the BL/JS corner- that area was closed for safety reasons some years later) because my dad was too late to get seats for the BLUT where we usually sat as he didnt really expect a large crowd. Malcolm MacDonald had boasted in a newspaper article that he found it easy to play against division two centre backs.

After a goalless first half, Woody put us ahead by diverting a low cross past Tony Read. The second goal was quite spectacular. Woody took a corner from the right (I was right in line behind the corner) and it was half cleared but the quick thinking Woody raced to the 6 yard box to fire in a volley past the helpless Read. We could have had a third when Woody was tripped in the penalty box after a solo run and the ref awarded us a penalty. TC took the spot kick but his effort crashed against the bar and back into play. Near the end of the match Jim Ryan reduced the arrears. At the end of the game the disconsolate MacDonald walked off the pitch and Eddie Colquhoun (who had SuperMac in his pocket throughout the game as he is one of the few CBs who could match SuperMac's pace) sarcastically slow handclapped him in response to SuperMac's boast in the papers!

I remember that game well EC did have Super Mac in his pocket and he was a proper striker a goal every other game.

Can Cloughy get somebody like him on loan for the rest of the season

 

[Sharrowblade]

But surely, the star attraction was the Cortina up for grabs

 

[Sharrowblade]

Here's todays offerings, one for the young un's and one for the aficionado's of the Youth game.

This day 1998 16 years ago, we have a programme cover of Don Hutchinson ordering a pint. United beat Oxford 1-0 with Bobby Ford scoring against his former club.

And we have a much less common edition, 52 years ago, 1962, a Wolves v Sheffield United FA Youth Cup 4th Rd tie, which we lost 3-0

 

[Silent Blade]

Here's todays offerings, one for the young un's and one for the aficionado's of the Youth game.

This day 1998 16 years ago, we have a programme cover of Don Hutchinson ordering a pint. United beat Oxford 1-0 with Bobby Ford scoring against his former club.

And we have a much less common edition, 52 years ago, 1962, a Wolves v Sheffield United FA Youth Cup 4th Rd tie, which we lost 3-0

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Looking at the Wolves team, there is Peter Knowles (a South Yorkshireman) who was a star player and played some England u23 games before quitting the game aged only 24 in 1969 to become a Jehovah's witness preacher. Jim Barron played for Forest and Oxford and was assistant manager to Steve Thompson at SUFC in 1998. Ken Knighton was one of the Hull players in that Battle of Bramall Lane in 1971. John Galley had a long footballing career and was a popular player at Rotherham and Bristol City. From our team, I do not know who Twigg is. 7 of or players have played in the 1st team (Wagstaff brothers, Mallender, Badger, Bernard Shaw with only Jack Parks and Mike Ash having played a feww 1st team appearances). I liked what Alan Birchenall recalled in an autobiography of a training session coached by John Harris in the early 1960s, Harris shouted "Hold the ball, hold the ball" but Garth Lee picked the ball up and held the ball in the air with both hands!

 

[Sharrowblade]

Looking at the Wolves team, there is Peter Knowles (a South Yorkshireman) who was a star player and played some England u23 games before quitting the game aged only 24 in 1969 to become a Jehovah's witness preacher. Jim Barron played for Forest and Oxford and was assistant manager to Steve Thompson at SUFC in 1998. Ken Knighton was one of the Hull players in that Battle of Bramall Lane in 1971. John Galley had a long footballing career and was a popular player at Rotherham and Bristol City. From our team, I do not know who Twigg is. 7 of or players have played in the 1st team (Wagstaff brothers, Mallender, Badger, Bernard Shaw with only Jack Parks and Mike Ash having played a feww 1st team appearances). I liked what Alan Birchenall recalled in an autobiography of a training session coached by John Harris in the early 1960s, Harris shouted "Hold the ball, hold the ball" but Garth Lee picked the ball up and held the ball in the air with both hands!

Barry Twigg played for Sheffield Boys around 1958-59

 

[Sharrowblade]

41 years ago......United 1 Dynamo Kiev 2.

Never been explained why we suddenly had a friendly against Kiev, in February, probably something to do with the red flag flying over the City Hall, and the council's plea that it didn't want to be nuked by the Russians.

Gil Reece with the goal.