Early days but the Cannon signing baffles me.

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Unfortunate that he's injured. Rolled his ankle, so that's potentially out for at least 4-6 weeks.
I'm still not convinced despite Wilder saying that he'll be a good player for us. We've heard that before.
First half last night we played really well, but he didn't seem to be involved much and when he was, it wasn't coming off for him. Hopefully he just needs time to settle in, but I'm not optimistic about him. Hope to be proved very wrong.
Campbell impacted the game more in the first 2 minutes of the second half than Cannon had in the entire first half. I'd have put money on him scoring that one on one though. Hope Campbell gets a run in the team and starts against Leeds.
 
Never good for a player to be injured - but with Campbell, Moore & Brewster back - now is as good a time as any. Plus also eases pressure on Cannon himself & Wilder to persevere with something that is just not clicking yet. Better movement from other players at the moment.

If Cannon has rolled his ankle he could be anything from 1 week to 6 weeks out - so might not see him back until after end of international break later in March.
 
FinchleyBlade said:
Genuinely confused as to what his strengths are though? He isn't quick or mobile, nor strong or good in the air. He doesn't have good movement....so what is it that we've paid 8-10 million for? Just his finishing?
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On different levels, Gerd Muller, Keith Edwards, Lineker, Sharp weren't quick, mobile or good in the air.

I'm certainly not saying that Cannon is in that group, but FFS give the lad a proper chance.

Some wanker so-called fans ('fanatics' ho ho ho), have already written him off. Let's not drop to that level.
 
Not gonna say it’s good he’s injured, but if Wilder has felt obligated to start him given his transfer fee, a brief stint out then a reintroduction via the bench might make us better in the short term (cue us losing our other strikers again).
 
utd4ever said:
STRIKERS GRAVEYARD

Apart from Billy Sharp, every centre forward we have signed in Wilders era has been poor scoring wise.
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Haaland would be shite at SUFC and if he wasn’t he’d be sold . It’s the United way !
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Sharp wasn’t bad over 5-10 yards to be fair & he was strong too. I’m too young to comment on the others.
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Muller won the world Cup European cup and the ballon dor or whatever the equivalent was then.You saw his name on the team sheet against England and you just thought oh shit! So I'm afraid in that list he's number one. Lineker played at a far higher level than our lads and like him or not and I quite like him was a top international striker. Sharp is a better footballer than Edwards able to stick his bum out and work defenders but Edwards remains the best finisher I've seen play for the blades.
 
He looks like the next James Wilson

He didn't even get a sniff when we were playing brilliantly and dominating in the first half

So that's 4 games, no goals, no real chances, and barely any touches. Promising
 
I think he’ll be OK, but we definitely have overpaid for him.
 
He'll be out on loan next season if we go up. Might bang in 9 for Swansea. Which would presumably entitle us to sell him for 10m as it did with Leicester
 
Hamandcheese said:
He looks like the next James Wilson

He didn't even get a sniff when we were playing brilliantly and dominating in the first half

So that's 4 games, no goals, no real chances, and barely any touches. Promising
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Yes, a promising wanker-post, that neatly skipped over the assist at Derby and the part he played in our first goal last night.

Keep up the (selective) good work!
 
I should coco said:
On different levels, Gerd Muller, Keith Edwards, Lineker, Sharp weren't quick, mobile or good in the air.

I'm certainly not saying that Cannon is in that group, but FFS give the lad a proper chance.

Some wanker so-called fans ('fanatics' ho ho ho), have already written him off. Let's not drop to that level.
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Lineker was definitely quick, mobile and not bad in the air. Johan Cruyff even stuck him out on the wing at Barcelona for his pace.
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Poor performance from Cannon again last night, we created loads of chances and he was nowhere near any of them.... Is he now injured too?
 
Wilderat Heart said:
Muller won the world Cup European cup and the ballon dor or whatever the equivalent was then.You saw his name on the team sheet against England and you just thought oh shit! So I'm afraid in that list he's number one. Lineker played at a far higher level than our lads and like him or not and I quite like him was a top international striker. Sharp is a better footballer than Edwards able to stick his bum out and work defenders but Edwards remains the best finisher I've seen play for the blades.
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Muller is arguably THE GOAT when it comes to clinical strikers. 68 international goals in only 62 caps is the best goals per game ratio of any international striker and being German, it wasn't like he was playing crap teams all the time or in an era of loads of goals.

I think Edwards was a more skilful player than Sharp and Edwards was no slouch over short distances either.
 
Me and my Grandson were watching Cannon closely last night, and we decided he is more reactive than proactive. He reacts to the play around him, rather than being proactive and creative space, he cannot make things happen, he just waits for things to happen.
 
You have to honest he’s been a passenger. Does very little offers very little. If there’s a player in there we had better find it because at present he has out on loan next season written all over him
 
I don't know if such a deal was not on the table, but I understand that the option to buy for BBD at the end of the season is also 10 million. So it would have seemed more obvious to sign the tried and trusted player in BBD, who would seem to have the qualities to play as a lone striker in our system while Campbell and Moore are injured, but can also go outwide when they are available. Then Cannon would have been the loan signing, if we really wanted that extra fire power in the squad and we find out a bit more about him as a player. Perhaps these were not options that Soton and Leicester were offering at this point, I don't know. The management must really feel that Cannon has a genuinely high ceiling. I do have this nagging feeling, that if we do not go up, it would be push to afford 2 10 million pound strikers in our squad and either Soton or one of our rivals end up with BBD up against us next season. And this is not to stay I don't think Cannon can be great signing for us, just at the stage of where we at does not seem the obvious move.
 
bonobo said:
I don't know if such a deal was not on the table, but I understand that the option to buy for BBD at the end of the season is also 10 million. So it would have seemed more obvious to sign the tried and trusted player in BBD, who would seem to have the qualities to play as a lone striker in our system while Campbell and Moore are injured, but can also go outwide when they are available. Then Cannon would have been the loan signing, if we really wanted that extra fire power in the squad and we find out a bit more about him as a player. Perhaps these were not options that Soton and Leicester were offering at this point, I don't know. The management must really feel that Cannon has a genuinely high ceiling. I do have this nagging feeling, that if we do not go up, it would be push to afford 2 10 million pound strikers in our squad and either Soton or one of our rivals end up with BBD up against us next season. And this is not to stay I don't think Cannon can be great signing for us, just at the stage of where we at does not seem the obvious move.
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Leicester needed the cash upfront due to their FFP worries.
 
Apparently Bettis has been quoted as saying that we paid substantially less than £10m
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Sharp wasn’t bad over 5-10 yards to be fair & he was strong too. I’m too young to comment on the others.
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Basically they were all quite similar to Sharp…..didn’t do much apart from score. Altho Lineker was pretty fast.

I remember our fans often complaining about Edwards….he was obsessed with scoring…..didn’t do much else apart from take a decent corner and free kick,
So often he’d be having a quiet game, hardly touch the ball….then BAM he’d scored an easy tap in from close range.

To be honest Stoke fans told us….he doesn’t look good and has quiet games but when given chances he tends to score.
My view on Cannon is that he’s a calculated clever investment…similar to when we bought Brewster and McBurnie but much much cheaper.
 
He's played in three games for us, one of those he'd only signed the day previous and probably hadn't even trained with the team, and one of them he came off injured at half time. Writing him off now and judging his play is poor form. We're meant to support the team, not slag them off at the earliest opportunity.
 
Snake said:
This reminds me of the Ryan Leonard signing a few years ago. Wilder seemed to chase him for ages and he was eventually signed for a relatively big fee (for us at that time). He just didn't seem to fit into any of our playing patterns at all. We were fortunate to more or less get our money back when we offloaded him to Millwall. Not sure we'll get £10m back for Cannon though. It's very early days of course, but so far the poor guy looks totally lost.
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We sold Leonard for a profit 1m iirc.
 
Snake said:
This reminds me of the Ryan Leonard signing a few years ago. Wilder seemed to chase him for ages and he was eventually signed for a relatively big fee (for us at that time). He just didn't seem to fit into any of our playing patterns at all. We were fortunate to more or less get our money back when we offloaded him to Millwall. Not sure we'll get £10m back for Cannon though. It's very early days of course, but so far the poor guy looks totally lost.
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Are you on the windup ?
Think it’s reasonable to make initial judgements and have concerns…..
But surely you’re old enough to know that no player can be judge on 2 or 3 games……wait until after about 20 games…then we’ll know.

I remember when Campbell made his debut and in his early matches he looked…..just OK…..but not exactly a striker.
Last week BBD looked really poor and totally lost against Portsmouth…..a few days later he scores a class goal.

Thought it was pretty obvious why we bought Cannon….he was much needed insurance.
We can’t rely on Campbell and Moore staying fit and can’t rely on Brewster and One to score.
Imagine towards the end of the season having to play One as our main striker….would have been a farce.

Also I think the Cannon purchase is a piece of opportunism.
He’s the right age….so his value should only increase and he’s rated.
For me it’s very similar to the McBurnie and Brewster signings, yes we’ve overpaid for Cannon but it’s much cheaper than the Mc and Brew signings,

Wilder is obviously aware of the fan feedback from Stoke fans because I think it was significant last week that Wilder said Cannon will have a good future here
and that we’ve studied the in game data and metrics…..which all suggest he’s a lot better than he looks.
I suppose we’ll see but don’t think it’s fair to criticise until he’s been given a few games….he’s hardly touched the ball yet.
 
Sheffsteel said:
Are you on the windup ?
Think it’s reasonable to make initial judgements and have concerns…..
But surely you’re old enough to know that no player can be judge on 2 or 3 games……wait until after about 20 games…then we’ll know.

I remember when Campbell made his debut and in his early matches he looked…..just OK…..but not exactly a striker.
Last week BBD looked really poor and totally lost against Portsmouth…..a few days later he scores a class goal.

Thought it was pretty obvious why we bought Cannon….he was much needed insurance.
We can’t rely on Campbell and Moore staying fit and can’t rely on Brewster and One to score.
Imagine towards the end of the season having to play One as our main striker….would have been a farce.

Also I think the Cannon purchase is a piece of opportunism.
He’s the right age….so his value should only increase and he’s rated.
For me it’s very similar to the McBurnie and Brewster signings, yes we’ve overpaid for Cannon but it’s much cheaper than the Mc and Brew signings,

Wilder is obviously aware of the fan feedback from Stoke fans because I think it was significant last week that Wilder said Cannon will have a good future here
and that we’ve studied the in game data and metrics…..which all suggest he’s a lot better than he looks.
I suppose we’ll see but don’t think it’s fair to criticise until he’s been given a few games….he’s hardly touched the ball yet.
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Erm, Ryan Leonard started 6 league games for us. It was apparent from the start he just didn't seem to fit in with our set up. Cannon had started 3 by the time of my post (4 now) and the comparisons on fitting into our set up are clearly there. When Campbell came on last night it took him less than a minute to have an impact - he knows and fits our set up you see!

Ok Cannon ............. believe it or not I'm not a Cannon basher (well only in the comfort of my own privacy when the wife is in bed ;-)) and I really hope he comes good. As you say, it's far too early to write him off and there are people much more qualified than I am rate him to the tune of £10m.

But, sorry, the early comparisons with the Leonard signing are justified I think.
 

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