CONFIRMED Tom Cannon signs until 2029, with a year option

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

Adebayo is a handful but he's missed the most chances in the division

The best value alternative to Cannon might be Emil Riis. He also has a more suitable all round game to be the one CF in our system

The best option though is clearly McBurnie if we can get him. As far as I'm concerned all these other names, including Cannon, are merely alternatives

 

[Blade56]

God the MSP thing will follow me forever

It’ll end tomorrow

 

[Bladezz]

Morris is 7 goals and an assist, Adebayo is 5, Forss has only played 4 times this season while Osmejic is 4 in 16 due to his suspension

Have to remember as well that Morris and Adebayo have previous form and consistency, and Forss/Osmejic are decidedly cheaper than Cannon.

Enlighten me why Cannon is better than these options?

Out scores them in.

Everyone at the start of the season had Luton having a far superior squad.

Younger.

 

[Blade56]

Signings seems to come down to the strategy we adopt under new owners.

1. We need bodies to finish the season so do we go with just Wilders Rola-dex and phone book of journeymen and projects like Barnes? It’s worked before with Leon and Didsey. But, it’s failed many times with the likes of Bryan, Ravel et al.
Or
2. A signature signing (or two) ie Brereton, McBernie and keep our youth players plus a journeyman or two.
Or
3. To early to adopt but Jonny foreigners we’ve not heard of from the Desmond or other data based analysis system.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I think the issue with signing Canon is that he's not going to be recalled from a club he's starting games at and sent to one where he'd be used as cover.

The only way he leaves Stoke is to go somewhere permanently. It was reported a club needed to pay I think around £6/8m in order for that to happen.

If we were to pay that for a player I’m pretty sure he’d be coming in to start.

 

[ancientblade]

i think were likely to test leicester by offering 5m for cannon with add ons if leicester want 7/8m for him i very much doubt we will pay that anyway and move on to other targets nerdy taking a lot of flak over his opinions on cannon including me but everybodys got their own opinions and fair play to him for standing his ground i also like the link with the 2 luton lads and its interesting that were being linked now with the danish lad at preston hes looks like a progressive striker to me i think were looking at 1 permanent and 2 loans ben brereton looks like one of them but we will see in the next 10 days mind i would like to see 4 come in

 

[YES Blade]

There's better strikers out there but they play in foreign markets. Depends on Wilder I guess

I’ve no doubt there are, but do we have the scouting network to find them? Probably not at the moment.

 

[NerdyBlade]

Out scores them in.

Everyone at the start of the season had Luton having a far superior squad.

Younger.

He outscores them this season - there's no track record or consistency from him. Also, as I keep saying - 4 of Cannons goals were in one game, so it's not like it's 9 goals in 9 games.

Really unsure why everyone is so ready to splash the cash on someone who is having a mediocre at best half season with no track record despite every warning about how mediocre he actually is

 

[andy m]

What, consistently? Or infrequently this season

I thought we were past signing players for larger fees because they'd had a decent season/half a season after that bit us on the arse with Brewster, but if you want to stick with it go ahead

That's why we signed Burrows.

 

[Booker4]

Seeing the comments on Morris or Adebayo but just to check we've not had any links from the media on either have we? I have been a big fan of Morris for three years or so now, he's exactly what we need but I can't see Luton selling him mid season. I think they'll be thinking that with a good run they could still push play offs. Selling Morris would end that chance.

Not sure what his contract status is though?

 

[robbiez666]

The only way he leaves Stoke is to go somewhere permanently. It was reported a club needed to pay I think around £6/8m in order for that to happen.

If we were to pay that for a player I’m pretty sure he’d be coming in to start.

I think there's a fair chance Leicester would recall him and loan to us if the money is right. They want him to show what he can do in a top Championship team I'd guess.

 

[Big.Dane.w]

Looks a decent finisher to me, strikes well with either foot

 

[bladesmanluke]

"He drifts in and out of games"

True of every single striker that has ever played

 

[LudlamBlade]

Stadium is paid off, that's why they were cheap in the prem. Used prem money to fund it

They paid the £8-10m to upgrade Kenilworth to Prem standard but they certainly haven't paid off the estimated £450m total cost of a project that isn't set to be completed until 2027

 

[NerdyBlade]

That's why we signed Burrows.

Wildly different to spend up to 3mil on someone for their multiple defensive and offensive contributions over multiple seasons to then spend 7mil on someone for scoring 9 goals inconsistently in half a season

 

[NerdyBlade]

"He drifts in and out of games"

True of every single striker that has ever played

I did phrase that wrong I think - Cannon has games where he looks like he can't and won't do anything.

Most strikers drift but you know they just need that one moment, whereas Cannon doesn't, as well as not having that spark to make that moment himself most weeks

 

[andy m]

Wildly different to spend up to 3mil on someone for their multiple defensive and offensive contributions over multiple seasons to then spend 7mil on someone for scoring 9 goals inconsistently in half a season

He has scored 19 goals in 53 championship appearances. Not exactly a half season sample is it.

 

[NerdyBlade]

He has scored 19 goals in 53 championship appearances. Not exactly a half season sample is it.

Are they consistent, like a goal every 3 games? Or are they 4 in one game, then nothing for weeks, then a few, then nothing for weeks

 

[YES Blade]

He has scored 19 goals in 53 championship appearances. Not exactly a half season sample is it.

11 of those appearances were as a sub so makes the goal scoring record even better.

I doubt you’ll find many 22 year olds with a record as good as his.

 

[FTPE]

Are they consistent, like a goal every 3 games? Or are they 4 in one game, then nothing for weeks, then a few, then nothing for weeks

You know the answer to that.
Didn't he go weeks without a goal then get 4 in one game? I want him, I think he's in a crappy side, but no his goals haven't been spread out.

 

[YES Blade]

You know the answer to that.
Didn't he go weeks without a goal then get 4 in one game? I want him, I think he's in a crappy side, but no his goals haven't been spread out.

He’s scored 6 in his last 13, you could say he’s starting to hit form.

 

[NerdyBlade]

You know the answer to that.
Didn't he go weeks without a goal then get 4 in one game? I want him, I think he's in a crappy side, but no his goals haven't been spread out.

But that's exactly my point

The goals aren't spread out, they aren't consistent - there's a player in there, but at an integral part of the season, do you want someone who might score every so often but no guarantee, or do you want someone wirh a track record and consistency?

 

[FTPE]

But that's exactly my point

The goals aren't spread out, they aren't consistent - there's a player in there, but at an integral part of the season, do you want someone who might score every so often but no guarantee, or do you want someone wirh a track record and consistency?

Assuming that's rhetorical mate, we'd all rather a striker that gets a goal a game instead of 4 against the dross and 0 for weeks on end.
But, who's out there?

 

[NerdyBlade]

Assuming that's rhetorical mate, we'd all rather a striker that gets a goal a game instead of 4 against the dross and 0 for weeks on end.
But, who's out there?

I think it depends on what we have to spend - I've said before, a bit of cash could potentially prise Morris, Adebayo or Osmejic away from their clubs, and Morris and Adebayo have proven form.

If you're wanting to take a risk, there's Forss at Boro or Riis Jakobson we were linked with today

If we had Leeds money, I'd be all for Cannon - but I think we need to be canny with our spending and he isn't an outlay we can justify

 

[FTPE]

I think it depends on what we have to spend - I've said before, a bit of cash could potentially prise Morris, Adebayo or Osmejic away from their clubs, and Morris and Adebayo have proven form.

If you're wanting to take a risk, there's Forss at Boro or Riis Jakobson we were linked with today

If we had Leeds money, I'd be all for Cannon - but I think we need to be canny with our spending and he isn't an outlay we can justify

Riis Jakobson has only got double figures once in his career, even including the crappy Danish leagues and Adebayo isn't as proven as you think, he's only got above 10 goals at this level once as well. Theyre both 26/27. Honestly mate, almost everyone is a gamble. Form wise, McBurnie and Brewster were as on as much of a tear as you could have wished for, and we know how that's gone. Nobody gets sucked into stats and highlight reels more than me, but we have to put trust into the scouts and the coaches to see something that will work and click with the team/style we currently have.

 

[Irv]

Out scores them in.

Everyone at the start of the season had Luton having a far superior squad.

Younger.

Not everyone…

 

[NerdyBlade]

Riis Jakobson has only got double figures once in his career, even including the crappy Danish leagues and Adebayo isn't as proven as you think, he's only got above 10 goals at this level once as well. Theyre both 26/27. Honestly mate, almost everyone is a gamble. Form wise, McBurnie and Brewster were as on as much of a tear as you could have wished for, and we know how that's gone. Nobody gets sucked into stats and highlight reels more than me, but we have to put trust into the scouts and the coaches to see something that will work and click with the team/style we currently have.

Thing is though, Cannon is going to cost us 7mil - Adebayo would be about 4 and Jakobson even less. For someone we're brining off the bench or starting lesser games, we need a lower fee or a loan. Plus, Adebayo has Prem experience, which we'll hopefully need next season - not sure Cannon can make that step

 

[Danetheblade]

I think it depends on what we have to spend - I've said before, a bit of cash could potentially prise Morris, Adebayo or Osmejic away from their clubs, and Morris and Adebayo have proven form.

If you're wanting to take a risk, there's Forss at Boro or Riis Jakobson we were linked with today

If we had Leeds money, I'd be all for Cannon - but I think we need to be canny with our spending and he isn't an outlay we can justify

If it were 5m for either Cannon or Adebayo I’d be taking Adebayo all day.

 

[FTPE]

Thing is though, Cannon is going to cost us 7mil - Adebayo would be about 4 and Jakobson even less. For someone we're brining off the bench or starting lesser games, we need a lower fee or a loan. Plus, Adebayo has Prem experience, which we'll hopefully need next season - not sure Cannon can make that step

Yep, fair enough.
Can't argue with that logic.
I tend to go for who has a higher ceiling. I get excited thinking we could have the next Brookes, Ndiaye, DCL on our hands, but buying potential is far too risky for a club in our position. We've been let down by "Premiership experience" in the past and I like a player with a hunger, but steady and proven probably is the way to go in this window.

 

[Frank the tank]

Signings seems to come down to the strategy we adopt under new owners.

1. We need bodies to finish the season so do we go with just Wilders Rola-dex and phone book of journeymen and projects like Barnes? It’s worked before with Leon and Didsey. But, it’s failed many times with the likes of Bryan, Ravel et al.
Or
2. A signature signing (or two) ie Brereton, McBernie and keep our youth players plus a journeyman or two.
Or
3. To early to adopt but Jonny foreigners we’ve not heard of from the Desmond or other data based analysis system.

Jesus.!