Kalvin Phillips

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He went from playing to Leeds to Man City. It’s not like he left for a shite club who offered to pay him more. Cor what a prick for wanting to challenge himself with the best side in Europe. If he really wanted it so bad, he should’ve demanded the same level of pay too. Dickhead should’ve known he wouldn’t have succeeded anyway!

Some of the opinions on here are bonkers. “Bad apple”. Christ.
What you on about you sniffer. You telling me someone who is bang average in premier league is expected to push out world class player's, im saying there's no reason he couldn't make next step up to a club like villa, spurs, Brighton etc then prove his worth then make the move on.

Clearly I'm proven right with his current situation that he took the wrong move.
 

No chance.
Wages.

Be crazy to even contemplate, I dread to think what he’s in but will be north of £150k a week at city.

Likely only another prem club, or City in their current mire that will be able to do owt with him
 
What you on about you sniffer. You telling me someone who is bang average in premier league is expected to push out world class player's, im saying there's no reason he couldn't make next step up to a club like villa, spurs, Brighton etc then prove his worth then make the move on.

Clearly I'm proven right with his current situation that he took the wrong move.
He moved to West Ham, looked absolute shite, now he’s at Ipswich.. looking equally shite if not worse. He’s pushing nobody out, and he’s proving absolutely fuck all.
 
I agree to some extend but you also have to be realistic and not deluded... you seriously think he thought he would dislodge world class players (which he is no where near the standard off) such as de bruyne, gundogan, rodri, kovacic
.. and also keep them out of the team, he's got to know he was going to be back up to those.

Phillips was an England international and signed for £45m, you’d expect him to play more than he did, given the fee and he performances prior to the transfer.

To call it bad advice to sign for the most successful club in recent years is ridiculous. If you get the opportunity to sign for clubs such as Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc. you go!

It shows a complete lack of ambition and confidence to turn down Man City to stay at Leeds.
 
It's almost like he's the living example of what happens when you make the wrong move in Football, not necessarily a bad move but just the wrong move.

Almost like Raheem Sterling going to Chelsea (he's completely gone downhill since), Mason Mount to Man U, Ndiaye to Marseille, there will be others as well but I can't think of any more off the top of my head.

Phillips picked the wrong transfer move (but fair play to him for trying to get into what was a very good Man City side at the time), and it has ruined his career.
 
Phillips was an England international and signed for £45m, you’d expect him to play more than he did, given the fee and he performances prior to the transfer.

To call it bad advice to sign for the most successful club in recent years is ridiculous. If you get the opportunity to sign for clubs such as Man City, Real Madrid, Barcelona etc. you go!

It shows a complete lack of ambition and confidence to turn down Man City to stay at Leeds.
Eventually sign for them, is what I'm saying. Jumping at the chance to sign for those teams you mentioned when you ain't good enough etc can go massively wrong and there's been plenty of players that's done it and been exposed or cracked under the pressure and not really been the same as before.

For pure football wise only, it was the wrong move and no one can argue otherwise, for other reasons such as money and an easy cheap way of picking up medals then yeah you'd jump at the chance.

What shows ambition is people like Cole palmer that couldn't force his way into city side and decides to leave for footballing reasons to play like any footballer should be wanting to do.

I didn't say stay at Leeds, he would have had his suitors of bigger more established teams asking the question where he could play regular football and show his ambition and get the so called cities bidding for them then.
 
We need to stop being a pants down club that everyone tries to dump their, journeymen, almost made it and crocked projects on and get a data driven strategy that’s not just uk based players every time we look like a promotion team.

Bit like Brentford, Bournemouth, Brighton …….Blades, all the B’s
 
Needs to grow his hair again and bring back his powers.

Needs to go on loan to the Championship in a good side and get his confidence back.
 
Eventually sign for them, is what I'm saying. Jumping at the chance to sign for those teams you mentioned when you ain't good enough etc can go massively wrong and there's been plenty of players that's done it and been exposed or cracked under the pressure and not really been the same as before.

For pure football wise only, it was the wrong move and no one can argue otherwise, for other reasons such as money and an easy cheap way of picking up medals then yeah you'd jump at the chance.

What shows ambition is people like Cole palmer that couldn't force his way into city side and decides to leave for footballing reasons to play like any footballer should be wanting to do.

I didn't say stay at Leeds, he would have had his suitors of bigger more established teams asking the question where he could play regular football and show his ambition and get the so called cities bidding for them then.
When Pep calls and says "I want you in my midfield" you don't say "I want to sign for Brighton first."

He backed himself to suceeed, all players would - didn't work out so he went off for regular football (like Cole Palmer did) to West Ham then Ipswich. It didn't work out, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have taken the chance to see if it would.
 
When Pep calls and says "I want you in my midfield" you don't say "I want to sign for Brighton first."

He backed himself to suceeed, all players would - didn't work out so he went off for regular football (like Cole Palmer did) to West Ham then Ipswich. It didn't work out, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have taken the chance to see if it would.
I suppose scott Carson backed himself as well to be in front of the other 2 keepers?

Certain level of players know what they are signing up for is basically what I'm saying.

I think I may not have put it across in the right way with wording etc and that what I'm saying has been taking a bit different, out of context and or twisted.

By all means he may have well been promised a fair shot and to be given regular football, that is absolutely fine at jumping at the chance in that context, but I find it hard to believe that he would have been, and I'm only making assumptions that he would know deep down he'd be a bit part player.
 
By all means he may have well been promised a fair shot and to be given regular football, that is absolutely fine at jumping at the chance in that context, but I find it hard to believe that he would have been, and I'm only making assumptions that he would know deep down he'd be a bit part player.

He would also know deep down that he would be moving to a club which would be paying him far in excess of what any other club would be able to offer, when he works in a job where he is one bad tackle away from being career over. People may talk about it being a bad move for footballing reasons, and they are likely right, but those same people would likely be the first to switch jobs if a new company offered them triple the salary for half the work that they're currently doing
 

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