Prince - give us some direction

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Snowflake said:
If they were in the Championship they would have some goals and wins and therefore the confidence to display their talents.
They may not get promoted but I think they would be very close
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We would still have injuries and far more games. I don't see this side as it is being top half of the championship
 

Berkshire Blade said:
We would still have injuries and far more games. I don't see this side as it is being top half of the championship
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This squad , not the current side, with the on loan youngsters is good enough. Add in a bit of experience and promotion is a real prospect.
The difficulty is that we don’t appear to have found the youngsters who in 18 months will be good enough at PL level unless Slimane, Larouchi and others are better than I think.
 
Bell4 said:
Prince , the club you own is in free fall , without a strategy, without direction and worst of all - without purpose .

You are passively sleepwalking this proud club into oblivion - please give us all some sort of direction , if only for the sake of the man who has saved this clubs short term future and your backside by getting us up .

Prince , step up , now
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Spot on mate . the man who has worked a miracle running the team with one arm behind his back and saved the club by getting promoted and getting the prem cash looks like losing his job . If he had failed we could be looking at 2 clubs in Sheffield looking down the barrel .
 
ancientblade said:
totally agree with you swissblade there is a massive gap between the premier league and the championship as is being proved by the 3 promoted teams in the bottom 3 and relegated leicester running away with the championship title unless youve got multi millionaire owners forget about doing anything in the modern day premier league at least if we get relegated abdullah has to bring his ridiculous price for the club down for what its worth i think we do need a change of management at the club with new ideas and new tactics
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What is his ridiculous price? I’ve not see much on price
 
Oy Prince. Get thi sen oer to S 6 quick. They only need a couple of million to avoid admin. Take Danny Rohl and his team from them before he jumps ship in part ex for Hecky plus the 2 million. Win win all way round.
 
The mess we are in is down to that prince, he has lost interest and will not give any funds whatsoever he does not care about us the fans. unfortunately, the fall guy will be Hecky he gets all the flak through no fault of his own. He has been put in an impossible position. Thats the thanks he gets from that prince for doing a brilliant job. Surely they must be someone interested in buying the club, who int bent.
 
It’s not just an issue for SUFC it’s a football issue in general. The Premier League is setting sail into the NFL style no relegation sunset leaving the rest of us behind . Anyone noticed how many American owners there are now and wondered why . I live in Bury near Gig Lane and have seen first hand how once proud clubs have fallen as a cost of the Premier League sucking money and fans away . Leaving the door open to chancer owners .
Sorry for the apocalyptic view but one thing is true . As fans we need to stick together because we are Sheffield United not some tin pot fake Sheikh.
 
SwissBlade said:
Reality is that we will go down.
But whether we had a decent season and went down on the last day or we go down by Xmas breaking all records… it’s almost irrelevant. We could be the worst premier league side ever… embarassing, yes. But beyond that, this side right now is good enough to compete at the top of the championship and bounce back
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What’s your first XI of contracted players next season which is good enough to compete?
 
LS16Blade said:
Indeed.

In the early 70’s, the Board wouldn’t build on a side boasting the likes of Badger, Woodward and Currie because ‘we didn’t have the income that other clubs had due to the small number of seats - which generated more income than terrace tickets - relative to other First Division clubs. We were also told that average gates of 35,000 were needed to enable us to compete. Gates had to come first and then the club might consider showing ambition in the transfer market - not the other way round which is how it typically works at every other club.

For the second half of the 70’s, all of the 80’s and the first half of the 90’s, the fans were told that we couldn’t compete because of the fabled ’South Stand debt’. A stand that was quoted to be a £650,000 project, became a £3m millstone around the club’s neck for 20 years.

Recent years have seen occasional flashes of investment - by McDonald and McCabe - but they have always been extremely short-lived and immediately followed by prolonged periods of ‘buyer’s remorse’ necessitating painful cloth-cutting and inevitable decline on the pitch.

Now, we seem to have arrived at a stage where ’buying back the property assets from McCabe’ has become this generation’s ‘South Stand debt’. It is seemingly something that, however much the club pays out, the liability never goes down.

Literally the only time that the Club has ever punched at or above it’s weight as a football club was from Summer 1981 to Summer 1982, when Reg Brearley poached an up-and-coming manager and backed him with the funds to buy players - Edwards, Morris, Young and Curran - way above the station we were then currently playing at.
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Depressingly true. Had 40+ years of selling our best players at the worst possible times. Until we change that, we’ll never get through the glass ceiling and punch our own weight.
 
Caveblade said:
Sadly we are owned by a man who has a bit of money which allowed him to buy a football club. He has not got enough money to run it properly and has no experience to run it effectively.

I started watching the Blades a long time ago and in all that time it has been the idiots and egos in the boardroom who have screwed the club up. There appears to be no sign of this changing in the near future.
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He’s basically McCabe with a tea towel in his bonce.
 
Nobody will come out of this season well, but the reputation damage done to both the club and owner will be completely damning.

In fact it’s so bad and we are so dire that I would t be surprised if the premier league put some measures in place to prevent clubs doing what we are currently. Looking from their vested interest we are damaging the reputation of their “brand” hugely at the moment and could see us as a club being spot balled to ensure we don’t darken their door again.
Over dramatic you may say, and of course they could t possibly be so bold and brazen to do it with that as their stated intent…but we all know the levels of corruption in elite sport can be high and I don’t think for one minute that it’s not in football here.

The owner is saying he’s protecting the clubs future, and financially for a year or two he may be…but beyond that I have serious concerns as a club with our structure and size cannot be run on L1 investment and spending limits, and having screwed up the summer transfer policy AGAIN we can. Have zero faith he has the skill, funds or structure to get fit right in any future window.

Doom monger some may say…but this season may well destroy more than being overspent may have done. The fans. Once they are gone, the club has too.
 
Grizzly blade said:
Nobody will come out of this season well, but the reputation damage done to both the club and owner will be completely damning.

In fact it’s so bad and we are so dire that I would t be surprised if the premier league put some measures in place to prevent clubs doing what we are currently. Looking from their vested interest we are damaging the reputation of their “brand” hugely at the moment and could see us as a club being spot balled to ensure we don’t darken their door again.
Over dramatic you may say, and of course they could t possibly be so bold and brazen to do it with that as their stated intent…but we all know the levels of corruption in elite sport can be high and I don’t think for one minute that it’s not in football here.

The owner is saying he’s protecting the clubs future, and financially for a year or two he may be…but beyond that I have serious concerns as a club with our structure and size cannot be run on L1 investment and spending limits, and having screwed up the summer transfer policy AGAIN we can. Have zero faith he has the skill, funds or structure to get fit right in any future window.

Doom monger some may say…but this season may well destroy more than being overspent may have done. The fans. Once they are gone, the club has too.
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You're right. The EPL want clubs to spend BIG. So the league is competitive as possible and attracts the world's best players. That's why prize money, TV revenues and parachute payments are so lucrative. There is no excuse for doing what we have done. None. It's gaming the system, it's damaging to the product (the EPL) and the powers that be will soon get wise to it and stamp it out.
 

SwissBlade said:
Reality is that we will go down.
But whether we had a decent season and went down on the last day or we go down by Xmas breaking all records… it’s almost irrelevant. We could be the worst premier league side ever… embarassing, yes. But beyond that, this side right now is good enough to compete at the top of the championship and bounce back

We’d need to build on it though, build for the future. Not with huge signings but with signings to expand this squad so that we have a squad with more depth for the next promotion.

We’re not in free fall. We’re just too shit for this league but we’ll also protect the future of the club because we’re not breaking the bank or the wage structure we need to keep in the championship.

Promotion wouldn’t be guaranteed of course and yes we need to make some changes. We need to change the manager or the way we play to be on the press much more. But we’re not in free fall
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What have you seen that makes you think top end of the Championship?
 
Grizzly blade said:
Nobody will come out of this season well, but the reputation damage done to both the club and owner will be completely damning.

In fact it’s so bad and we are so dire that I would t be surprised if the premier league put some measures in place to prevent clubs doing what we are currently. Looking from their vested interest we are damaging the reputation of their “brand” hugely at the moment and could see us as a club being spot balled to ensure we don’t darken their door again.
Over dramatic you may say, and of course they could t possibly be so bold and brazen to do it with that as their stated intent…but we all know the levels of corruption in elite sport can be high and I don’t think for one minute that it’s not in football here.

The owner is saying he’s protecting the clubs future, and financially for a year or two he may be…but beyond that I have serious concerns as a club with our structure and size cannot be run on L1 investment and spending limits, and having screwed up the summer transfer policy AGAIN we can. Have zero faith he has the skill, funds or structure to get fit right in any future window.

Doom monger some may say…but this season may well destroy more than being overspent may have done. The fans. Once they are gone, the club has too.
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Protecting it by selling 2 of our better players without having replacements readily available. Do you mean that sort of protecting
 
BalticBlade said:
You're right. The EPL want clubs to spend BIG. So the league is competitive as possible and attracts the world's best players. That's why prize money, TV revenues and parachute payments are so lucrative. There is no excuse for doing what we have done. None. It's gaming the system, it's damaging to the product (the EPL) and the powers that be will soon get wise to it and stamp it out.
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The EPL will not want the likes of us stinking the place out ever again. They could well bring in financial restrictions for promotion to the EPL, which will probably close it down for quite a few clubs from the EFL's, us included.
 
adiosmiamigo said:
A selling club is what we'll become,i'm afraid.
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I think that we have always been one of those, but it could get worse again. The line from snake about having to sell one player to balance the books, which player will this be then? There is currently not one single player that we will be likely able to sell for decent money at the minute, so this could turn into 3-4 next summer.
 
OLDBLADE43 said:
Protecting it by selling 2 of our better players without having replacements readily available. Do you mean that sort of protecting
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Yes, his assertion is that ha can’t afford to fund the club, and it appears that is at any level in its current format with a decent sized stadium, training facility and academy. So he’s taken the steps to cover probably the next two seasons with future very low to zero transfer expenditure to continue in its current guise.

Transfer policy proven so far to be a complete disaster. No faith it’s going to improve.

He needed a buyer last season and deffo before this. Only buyers about now with an eye on this embarrassment of a club as it is are the ones in the dodgy Dozy mould or the snakes laying in wait to take over those going to the wall! And regardless of how bad we are on the field we are at least 2-3 years away from that. Tough the decline as we get there is going to hurt.

One reason I can see he’s kissed up with wilder…the only one likely to take this mess on again and has done it once before…is in preparation for those times coming because they can’t be headed off unless there’s some miracle manager who can come in and repeat it. (Sadly I don’t think he will btw)

I’m 50…seen good, seen bad. Much more bad than good. Not seen one great owner who managed to change the club successfully like other clubs have, we looked like we had then as usual it turned out to be another false dawn.
Would just love a good stable 15-20 years of relative success…competing at the top, odd cup run and maybe dipping a toe into Europe while seeing us entertain me more often than not.
Seems too much to ask for.
 

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