CONFIRMED Berge to Burnley

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Definitely had my moments with Berge whereby I've thought 'gerrim selt', an inconsistent player who can command a decent fee is always going to divide opinion.
I think you remove the context of our business so far and the fact we flogged Ndiaye and more people see sense in this. But right now, the optics of it are absolutely fucking car crash tier.
 
bartonblade1 said:
He doesn’t have a choice! Otherwise we wont get a fee if he just runs his contract down! If that’s the stance he’s taken, leave for free in a year, then obviously common sense dictates we will sell him to anybody
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He still has the choice to reject the personal contract from Burnley of course.. however 'rumours' floating around seem to say the board have told him if he doesn't go he won't be played..
 
Balti Pie said:
Does anyone know whether Sander asked for a transfer, or whether he is being pushed out of the club to raise funds?
Like a lot of people I thought he was happy to run down his contract, and suspect that we've told him to F off as we need the money.
On Blades Ramble tonight Jimmy was very much painting the picture that Sander has asked for a transfer on the eve of the season, that's he's a disgrace, has played us for fools, and that he's not that good anyway. He did sound very much like he was acting as a mouthpiece for the Prince tonight though and was putting a positive spin on things. I might be wrong, but it did come accross that way to me.
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The more both Jimmy and Darren talk the more it’s obvious they’re essentially spin doctors for the prince.

It’s always the players fault when new deals aren’t agreed and always nothing more the club could do.

Club was happy to offer fleck, ozzy and Robbo new deals because they were cheap options and no one else wanted them. But not interested in keeping one of our only premier league quality player.
 
Not having this “wants to be closer to Haaland nonsense”. Manchester to Sheffield is easily commutable for a footballer. Duffy, Lundstram and JOC all commuted from liverpool and thats about 45 minutes further down the road. If Berge wanted to hang out with Erling he’d move there and commute to Sheffield. He’s a pro footballer ffs, he could even have a place in Sheffield and a place in Manchester if he really wanted.

Judging from what I’ve seen and heard from Berge in the past, I would suggest the only reason he’s talking to Burnley is because we have accepted the offer. I cant see that he’s forced a move and especially not to Burnley when he’s out of contract at the end of the season. That’s no slight on Burnley btw, he could very easily go there at the end of the season when he’s out of contract following our inevitable relegation.

Looking at this from Berge’s pov, if theres a choice between forcing a move and playing out his contract, it would make more sense for him to stay with us. If the club has accepted an offer then that’s no skin off his nose, he gets a pay rise a year earlier than expected and still gets to play in the Premier League.
 
Those that don't like Jimmy don't have to listen if they don't want to, I don't think he gets a lot of followers because of any inside info but for more how he presents the station and people just want to listen to a Blades related channel, same with The Sheff Utd Way and Shoreham View but Shoreham View is a very different channel of course and don't appear to have the interaction with the Prince to the same degree that the Sheff Utd Way or Blades Ramble do so that in a way can be to their advantage. I'm not a "Rambler" as such, I believe that's paid members, but I think his channel is decent, I like how he comes across, and he's entitled to his opinion like everybody else. As for his views or similar on Berge, I don't know the inside story on Berge like most of us don't, but it does appear that he is unwilling to sign another new contract, that's his prerogative for sure, but given he's just a year left on his contract I can understand the club trying to sell him/force him out because we don't want to lose him for nothing and the Prince's logic that players play harder in their last year of a contract only works when the player wants to sign a new contract, otherwise you can end up in John Lundstram territory.

It'll be a real shame losing Berge to Burnley, that's like your girlfriend dumping you for the fat uglier bloke down the road just because he drives a slightly nicer car (i.e. more money Burnley will be offering Berge) but maybe Berge just thinks that he may as well go now than stay given that we're in a mess squad wise (which will be sorted I'm sure in the final weeks or so) or maybe the rumours are true that he's just been forced out, but only likely because he won't sign a new contract which is then forcing the clubs hand. He may argue the club's offers of a new contract have been no better than what he is already on in fairness to Berge. People can criticise the Prince but I'm with him that we don't want players leaving for nothing when we can sell them on and buy in a replacement. If we can sell Berge and bring in O'Brien and Souza or similar quality players than I'm ok with that. I also wish Berge well though, he's done well for United overall and he seems a top guy, he will be missed I'm sure but as I say hopefully not too much if we bring in decent replacements.
 
BettingBlade said:
Not having this “wants to be closer to Haaland nonsense”. Manchester to Sheffield is easily commutable for a footballer. Duffy, Lundstram and JOC all commuted from liverpool and thats about 45 minutes further down the road. If Berge wanted to hang out with Erling he’d move there and commute to Sheffield. He’s a pro footballer ffs, he could even have a place in Sheffield and a place in Manchester if he really wanted.

Judging from what I’ve seen and heard from Berge in the past, I would suggest the only reason he’s talking to Burnley is because we have accepted the offer. I cant see that he’s forced a move and especially not to Burnley when he’s out of contract at the end of the season. That’s no slight on Burnley btw, he could very easily go there at the end of the season when he’s out of contract following our inevitable relegation.

Looking at this from Berge’s pov, if theres a choice between forcing a move and playing out his contract, it would make more sense for him to stay with us. If the club has accepted an offer then that’s no skin off his nose, he gets a pay rise a year earlier than expected and still gets to play in the Premier League.
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He dunt go un less he wants too ,!!
 
bartonblade1 said:
He doesn’t have a choice! Otherwise we wont get a fee if he just runs his contract down! If that’s the stance he’s taken, leave for free in a year, then obviously common sense dictates we will sell him to anybody
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Sander Berge is free to reject all moves out of the club and leave on a free at the end of the season. Him going to Burnley would prove that his goal isn't to leave on a free.
 
BettingBlade said:
Not having this “wants to be closer to Haaland nonsense”. Manchester to Sheffield is easily commutable for a footballer. Duffy, Lundstram and JOC all commuted from liverpool and thats about 45 minutes further down the road. If Berge wanted to hang out with Erling he’d move there and commute to Sheffield. He’s a pro footballer ffs, he could even have a place in Sheffield and a place in Manchester if he really wanted.

Judging from what I’ve seen and heard from Berge in the past, I would suggest the only reason he’s talking to Burnley is because we have accepted the offer. I cant see that he’s forced a move and especially not to Burnley when he’s out of contract at the end of the season. That’s no slight on Burnley btw, he could very easily go there at the end of the season when he’s out of contract following our inevitable relegation.

Looking at this from Berge’s pov, if theres a choice between forcing a move and playing out his contract, it would make more sense for him to stay with us. If the club has accepted an offer then that’s no skin off his nose, he gets a pay rise a year earlier than expected and still gets to play in the Premier League.
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Bang on mate, the slander against Berge from 'some certain sides' is disgraceful.
 
finlaytheblade said:
He dunt go un less he wants too ,!!
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There a difference between forcing a move and discussing personal terms because the club has accepted an offer.

The club has instigated this, if we wanted to keep him we would have. It’s basically saying to Berge, right they could let me run my contract down and use me for this season then I’m free to move on. They’ve accepted an offer so clearly they’re not that arsed about keeping me, I might as well get my shiny new contract a year early.

It’s business and I’m perfectly fine with Berge’s decision. Anyone blaming him and not the club is bonkers.
 
bartonblade1 said:
It’s as if everyone is anti Prince and just not using their heads, it’s really simple, berge on his side isn’t pushing for a move, he’s just running his contract down, then he can move for free in a year, that doesn’t benefit us in the slightest, everyone concerned would much prefer him just to sign a new contract…. He doesn’t want to!!! The prince has no choice but to get some money for him now rather than lose him for nothing in 12 months… we are in exactly the same position with Jebbo, negotiate a deal when we offer you one or dont it’s up to you but we won’t let anyone leave for free, I 100 % don’t blame the Prince on this whatsoever, it’s just frustrating, the upside is we use the money to sign someone who does want to play for us
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The frustration is that Sheffield United are seen as a club where top players are allowed to run their contract down or be sold with a year remaining. If we were a more attractive prospect then Ndiaye and Berge wouldn't have been in the last 12 months of their contracts. I know there's the argument that we've offered them contracts, but others are obviously offering better money/prospects/lifestyle and it's resulting in a loss of talent.

This is the bit we need to address, the whole mindset of the club is tinpot.
 
I have had chance to calm down since yesterday's breaking news regarding Berge. If its true that we have tried to have contract talks on numerous occasions and that he has been offered a very good deal but still won't have talks, then it is time for him to go!

I however, will never understand us selling him to Burnley. I personally think we should be actively inviting other teams to make a bid to match Burnley's 12m.

I also have no idea why Berge would want to play for Burnley, unless the contract they have offered him is ridiculous. Maybe he wants to go so he can cut 30 minutes off his drive to Manchester to get his instagram pictures with Haaland.

Overall I'm a big fan of Berge but deep down we all know he's not lived up to expectations. Maybe as a fan base we expected too much from what he's actually capable of. He's definitely replaceable.
 
Macfarlane21 said:
I have had chance to calm down since yesterday's breaking news regarding Berge. If its true that we have tried to have contract talks on numerous occasions and that he has been offered a very good deal but still won't have talks, then it is time for him to go!

I however, will never understand us selling him to Burnley. I personally think we should be actively inviting other teams to make a bid to match Burnley's 12m.

I also have no idea why Berge would want to play for Burnley, unless the contract they have offered him is ridiculous. Maybe he wants to go so he can cut 30 minutes off his drive to Manchester to get his instagram pictures with Haaland.

Overall I'm a big fan of Berge but deep down we all know he's not lived up to expectations. Maybe as a fan base we expected too much from what he's actually capable of. He's definitely replaceable.
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I do genuinely think this might be more to do with Kompany, maybe Berge has been a bigger fan of his than any of us could imagine, maybe Kompany has said I’m going to play you here and Berge would rather play in whatever position that role is, let’s say for arguments sake it’s CDM, than playing further forward

Who knows
 

jono_t2000 said:
He still has the choice to reject the personal contract from Burnley of course.. however 'rumours' floating around seem to say the board have told him if he doesn't go he won't be played..
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Not a chance we would pay him and not play him. That's one of the most farfetched claims of the summer so far I think.
 
jono_t2000 said:
He still has the choice to reject the personal contract from Burnley of course.. however 'rumours' floating around seem to say the board have told him if he doesn't go he won't be played..
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Honestly can't see any club saying that to any player.

Why would we have a player with his class sat in the U23? It makes no sense at all.

If the board have said that then we have a right pile of numpties in charge.

Let him run down his contract like he wants to.
 
Berge last season, arguably playing his best football here in that final third.

Scored the goal to seal promotion, described it as the best moment of his life.

Settled here with his Mrs, and been vocal about wanting to run down his contract with us.

Probably the only player looking on the pace preseason so far.

Going on trips with Haaland in the off season and giving out blades shirts.

Now we’re expected to believe he’s sacked us off to be closer to Haaland, to Burnley?

I don’t buy it.

Whatever your thoughts on him as a player he’s never given us reason to be believe he hates it here and wants out, despite us fucking around with him like a golden goose and pimping him out to anyone who’d meet the valuation, to the point of him living out of a hotel at one point.

I think it’s gone like this, here’s a slightly better contract, sign it or fuck off.

Burnley have obviously come in with a better offer and it’s forced his hand.

I don’t believe for a second he’s long harboured ambitions to play for Burnley.

We are weaker without him, like it or not. This is making me very worried now.
 
bartonblade1 said:
It’s as if everyone is anti Prince and just not using their heads, it’s really simple, berge on his side isn’t pushing for a move, he’s just running his contract down, then he can move for free in a year, that doesn’t benefit us in the slightest, everyone concerned would much prefer him just to sign a new contract…. He doesn’t want to!!! The prince has no choice but to get some money for him now rather than lose him for nothing in 12 months… we are in exactly the same position with Jebbo, negotiate a deal when we offer you one or dont it’s up to you but we won’t let anyone leave for free, I 100 % don’t blame the Prince on this whatsoever, it’s just frustrating, the upside is we use the money to sign someone who does want to play for us
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Make the club an attractive place to be and we wouldnt have this problem.

The prince has done everything on the cheap and these finer details add up to giving the impressions we’re a club that can’t afford a decent footballing level, and cant afford decent footballers

We’ve known it for the past couple years (embargo etc) and the players will definitely know even more!

What other team can’t renew their best players contracts despite going up to the richest league in the world? the prince has made us into a tin pot mess!!!
 
SouthStandGBlock said:
He's not now. My sons mate lives in the same apartment block he does.
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My mate lives in the same place, a couple of doors away from Sander. He says he is a smashing bloke, with a lovely finance, they both love Sheffield and he only ever says good things about United and his team mates. They seem very settled here (according to him).

The funny thing is, my mate doesn't know anything about local footy (as he is from down south), and when he first met Sander, he told me in the pub, afterwards, "guess what, I just met your keeper today, lives a few doors away from me, lovely lad, from Norway, a bloody giant".

He was shocked when I explained that despite being taller than most goal keepers, he was in fact, a midfielder.
 
ekke287 said:
Now we’re expected to believe he’s sacked us off to be closer to Haaland, to Burnley?
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I don't think anybody is trying to make that out?
As you've said above, he's running his contract down, so he's been sold rather than get nothing at the end of it.
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
I don't think anybody is trying to make that out?
As you've said above, he's running his contract down, so he's been sold rather than get nothing at the end of it.
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Isn’t this what Darren Smith has said? I haven’t seen anything but I don’t follow him, only going off what has been said in this thread by those who do.
 
So the only thing we know as "fact" is that Sander has said he wants to run his contract and has said that for a while?

Everything else is rumour and yet there are so many jumping on SB and the Boards back!!!

I just don't get it, the only thing I will say on this until I hear facts is that a move to Burnley seems nonsense, why would he move there except for Kompany/money.
Are Burnley really the only team willing to offer £12m for him, as that would be the only reason to "force" him, which again I find nonsense.
 
Booker4 said:
Those that don't like Jimmy don't have to listen if they don't want to, I don't think he gets a lot of followers because of any inside info but for more how he presents the station and people just want to listen to a Blades related channel, same with The Sheff Utd Way and Shoreham View but Shoreham View is a very different channel of course and don't appear to have the interaction with the Prince to the same degree that the Sheff Utd Way or Blades Ramble do so that in a way can be to their advantage. I'm not a "Rambler" as such, I believe that's paid members, but I think his channel is decent, I like how he comes across, and he's entitled to his opinion like everybody else. As for his views or similar on Berge, I don't know the inside story on Berge like most of us don't, but it does appear that he is unwilling to sign another new contract, that's his prerogative for sure, but given he's just a year left on his contract I can understand the club trying to sell him/force him out because we don't want to lose him for nothing and the Prince's logic that players play harder in their last year of a contract only works when the player wants to sign a new contract, otherwise you can end up in John Lundstram territory.

It'll be a real shame losing Berge to Burnley, that's like your girlfriend dumping you for the fat uglier bloke down the road just because he drives a slightly nicer car (i.e. more money Burnley will be offering Berge) but maybe Berge just thinks that he may as well go now than stay given that we're in a mess squad wise (which will be sorted I'm sure in the final weeks or so) or maybe the rumours are true that he's just been forced out, but only likely because he won't sign a new contract which is then forcing the clubs hand. He may argue the club's offers of a new contract have been no better than what he is already on in fairness to Berge. People can criticise the Prince but I'm with him that we don't want players leaving for nothing when we can sell them on and buy in a replacement. If we can sell Berge and bring in O'Brien and Souza or similar quality players than I'm ok with that. I also wish Berge well though, he's done well for United overall and he seems a top guy, he will be missed I'm sure but as I say hopefully not too much if we bring in decent replacements.
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I do like Jimmy, and his channel is entertaining. I always got the sense that he was an impartial fan telling it like it is. Last night's "Ramble" was the first time I got the impression he was working to a script. Maybe the Prince has fed him a load of cobblers and he believes it? Maybe Sander really does want to jump ship? Guess we'll not know til it all comes aht int wesh :)
 
Booker4 said:
Shoreham View is a very different channel of course and don't appear to have the interaction with the Prince to the same degree that the Sheff Utd Way or Blades Ramble do
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I imagine that's because Johnny called The Prince a prick and would probably set his car on fire if he got the chance
 

ekke287 said:
Berge last season, arguably playing his best football here in that final third.

Scored the goal to seal promotion, described it as the best moment of his life.

Settled here with his Mrs, and been vocal about wanting to run down his contract with us.

Probably the only player looking on the pace preseason so far.

Going on trips with Haaland in the off season and giving out blades shirts.

Now we’re expected to believe he’s sacked us off to be closer to Haaland, to Burnley?

I don’t buy it.

Whatever your thoughts on him as a player he’s never given us reason to be believe he hates it here and wants out, despite us fucking around with him like a golden goose and pimping him out to anyone who’d meet the valuation, to the point of him living out of a hotel at one point.

I think it’s gone like this, here’s a slightly better contract, sign it or fuck off.

Burnley have obviously come in with a better offer and it’s forced his hand.

I don’t believe for a second he’s long harboured ambitions to play for Burnley.

We are weaker without him, like it or not. This is making me very worried now.
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Excellent post mate!!!!! Totally agree on your views.
 
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