CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

[bartman]

EVEN WHEN WE ARE SELLING A 35 TO FORTY MILL POUND PLAYER FOR 13 MILLION ? A player who is under contract to us for another year and could well be the difference between 1 year in the prem or 2 years in the prem . Another year in the prem that makes 13 mill look like small change and well worth letting him go nowt next year .

EVEN WHEN WE ARE SELLING A 35 TO FORTY MILL POUND PLAYER FOR 13 MILLION ? A player who is under contract to us for another year and could well be the difference between 1 year in the prem or 2 years in the prem . Another year in the prem that makes 13 mill look like small change and well worth letting him go nowt next year .

How do you know it is £13 million ? Mot everything on a social media forum is true. A player under contract who clearly doesnt want to play in the Premier League. A player who might down tools from January onwards just as Lundstram did as he us goong elsewhere and doesnt want to get injured. . A player who has turned down several contracts from us which i am sure would have been very generous.
There are always two sides to a story

 

[Greg.]

Lot of angst towards the club, but there are 2 potential scenarios here

1- the club want to cash in, have been touting him around loads of clubs, removing him from friendlies to avert injury and haven’t offered him a new contract

2- he’s always wanted to go to OM. The club have offered him the biggest contract in our history having rebuffed bids in January, but this is different as IN wants this move. Having refused to sign the contract and told of his desire to move, the club have to secure the best fee they can, someone is only worth what someone is willing to pay. We sell as despite many thinking the contrary, you cannot force a player to play for 12 months at 100%, with no guarantee he will keep us up

These 2 won’t sign so will be sold, even tho their clubs can well afford to hold them better than we can- Kane & Mbappe


These were vital to their teams success, yet were allowed to leave once they made their feelings clear - Mahrez,Henderson, Mac Allister

These are wanted by their clubs, but may force a transfer - walker, caicedo

Some on here need to stop been entitled and accept it’s the game

It's just nature of football innit. Leicester had a £19m bid for Tielemans last summer, they turned it down, he ended up having a pretty crap season iirc, they get relegated and he ends up going for free to Villa. If we offered Illi our best contract and he didn't want it, it's tough. Palace even offered 200k a week to Zaha I think as another parallel. Main question would be could we have avoided getting in this situation in the first place, where the ownership uncertainty won't have helped for sure.

 

[Slim Man]

Sorry been busy with looking after toddler rocket. He's signing. 3 year deal. Progress has been made. There isn't anything to dove tail on with Nicko. 3 years. We are ALMOST there.

 

[moody1889]

Ndiaye shouldn’t come out of this without criticism. To do this to us on the eve of the season is unforgivable. Why did he play that in all the friendlies, for his own benefit? Heckingbottom wouldn’t have played him surely if Ndiaye gave him any clue that he wouldn’t be around come season start.

The club shouldn’t have capitulated but he’s fucked us over well and truly, there’s no getting way from that.

And for that I have lost all respect for him I would rather he had gone in January and took the 25 and signed someone else that wants to play for our club.

Now we are far weaker and have half of that nearly and we wouldn't even spend it all anyway even if we did so it absolutely pointless.

He brings something totally different and the only player that can create something out of nothing.

We might as well at this rate just give Brooks Peck Marsh and Osula a chance and write this season off because it is a simple fact we do not have a prayer with our current team.

 

[bartman]

United won’t say what the figure is…because they know we as fans will be angry and they will kop some grief.
£13m was quoted….someone said it was more…another quote from the marseille camp stated £14.6.
I think it’s very unlikely those numbers will be £10m away from the actual fee and definitely closer to those.

I get it. Fans pick the rumour saying the worse case scenario and presume it is true

 

[Working Class Hero]

I have no qualms with him choosing going to Marseille, I'd probably do the same thing.

However, this is absolutely mental from the club if the figures are true. We know we're a profitable Premier League club even when in a pandemic and spunking money, so there is absolutely no chance we need £13m when we've spent next to nothing in this window. We can't possibly replace him like for like and anyone we do bring in to fill the gap will eat up that £13m anyway in fee and higher wages. So what's the upside here?? We may possibly be better off by one saleable asset at the end of the season, but that's completely unknown and it's not even likely to be anyone worth much.

 

[Bladesman1968]

Will he go or will he stay ? Money what they offering they no player they can buy as good. Might have to add extra 5 mill to get half the player he is

 

[Half Bond Jls]

To the positive people on this thread… what is your choice of recreational drug? Asking for a friend

I'm boozing now and I might have a bit of thc oil. I know I shouldn't on a work neyt but fuck me Im pissed off.

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

I hope he does fuck all for Marseille

Could have been a blades legend. Now just another ex player as far as I'm concerned

And well done United for neglecting contract extensions. You reap what you sow

To do what we've done after being promoted is absolutely pathetic

 

[Bladesman]

The writing was on the wall the moment the agent started playing silly buggers and wanted to lowball us on the release clause. I genuinely believe the player wanted to sign a contract but he has been influenced by his agent who no doubt will now make a killing on the transfer fee. He I suspect was the middle man who was feeding OM information. He was the one who wanted to keep the release clause so low that OM could come in next summer for a knock down price.

There was no way the Club was going to invest in offering a 3 year contract, wages in the region of £50k a week and allow him to leave for a sum less than the value of a 1 year contract. The whole idea behind offering a new contract is to enhance the value of the player not decrease it.

We are in such a poor financial state that we didn't have the luxury of allowing him to run his contract down so the only option was to sell when it became clear the agent was not budging, no doubt influenced by OM. I really hope that we have secured a deal that allows for significant add ons. The reference to £14.6 million, if accurate, plus bonuses gives some hope that those bonuses take the total fee nearer £20 million with a significant sell on clause in the region of 25%, I live in hope.

What this episode does is call into question once again how the club is structured off the field. Ndiaye is the first of many who are in the final year of their contract which begs the question why has this been allowed to happen. The club is lumbering along expecting Bettis to plate spin and deal with all issues off the field when there is desperate need to bring in a Sporting Director to deal with contractual matters. A role that can be paid for by reducing consultancy fees to United
World. Not going to happen though as we remain in sale limbo.

A big test now for the Prince. He has sold his most valuable playing asset which will in the short term impact on the Clubs value. Reinvesting every penny from the sale in new players that could bring us a much needed LCB, LM, LAM and
forward would take away some of the growing anger amongst the fan base at this sale and that needs to happen quickly.

How the Club responds to this will be interesting. Simply allowing an accountant or selected local media to feed out strap lines isn't required now and will misjudge the growing mood of resentment at this sale. Time to raise heads above parapets and give some hope that there is a plan and strategy for the coming season.

I don't think his agent was ever going to allow him to sign any new deal with us and this goes back to when he last signed his contract. We are a stepping stone and the agent/advisors number one priority was making sure he didn't sign another thing.

That said the shit show with regards to other player contracts then I would agree the club is not being managed well at the moment.

 

[Working Class Hero]

And for that I have lost all respect for him I would rather he had gone in January and took the 25 and signed someone else that wants to play for our club.

Now we are far weaker and have half of that nearly and we wouldn't even spend it all anyway even if we did so it absolutely pointless.

He brings something totally different and the only player that can create something out of nothing.

We might as well at this rate just give Brooks Peck Marsh and Osula a chance and write this season off because it is a simple fact we do not have a prayer with our current team.

We don't have half of that £25m, we have much, much more as a result of getting promoted, which definitely would not have happened without Iliman Ndiaye.

 

[moody1889]

Since promotion was confirmed, it has looked to me like HRA had no intention of even trying to keep us in the PL (the rumoured pennies in the budget, Hecky's body language, signing unknowns from lower divisions in Europe were big clues). The sale of Ndiaye confirms this, However, it also confirms this HRA has gone down the same black hole as his predicessor, Mr McCabe in that he has given way to short sighteness, for fear of losing a few million in year's time, instead of telling the player to forget about a move right now and focus on having a good season in the PL for us.

I dont see how HRA comes back from this. A lot of fans will not forgive this sale, it looks like the onwers dont care. The atmosphere against HRA and his cronies could easily turn hostile as the season could now quite easily become a humilation.

For a man who has been quite astute in his business activity, nearly bankrupting the club by keeping our best assets (which took guts) to them sell them once we got promoted seems rather odd. Selling our best assets also does not seem the most attractive thing to do if you have interested buyers of the club.

It would be lovely to experience, at least once in our lifetimes an owner of this club who is wealthy, ambitious and will tolerate only sustained success.

Another depressing day in the black history of SUFC.

 

[CoatesyBlade]

Really if I was in that squad, my thinking would be right my time to shine. Not cry in the corner like you have lost your 1st girlfriend at school.

Of course it will effect them, your team is your family! I’m not saying they will ‘cry in a corner’, I’m saying it’ll upset the dynamic and have a negative effect on the rest of them.

 

[petcharlie]

He’s not a £35m pound player because no-one would have offered anything like that amount.

A year in the prem would probably amounted to his value going through the roof .Have you seen how much quality players are going for now? Even the Man city boss says he is concerned about inflation regarding the fees now being asked for average players .This lad was above average thats why the froggies have never let go of him.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Oh stop with the defiant talk and puffing your chest out with the no surrender diatribe.

The anger is nothing to do with that, if you sit idly by and accept the shit that’s happening then all that happens is you will continue to be blindly shit upon.

Our owner has only one ambition…to sell the club for whatever he can as soon as he can while costing him as little as possible. If he says a easy come easy go attitude to us selling the best player and best hope of staying up with 2 weeks to go I fail to be convinced he will merrily step up and find a viable alternative plan to secure the same chance we thought we had yesterday.

Stop with defiant talk like “I don’t think we are relegated before the season starts, and wait and see what the squad looks like”? And how is that less productive than a completely misguided anger towards the Prince for a scenario you have completely made up, but state as absolute fact?

 

[3Cheers4Ramirez]

And if we're going down this road, taking pathetic money for key players, let's do it properly and sell everybody else in the same contract situation for whatever we can get

Utterly disregard this season, and build for next. Mind you, that'll be difficult to do with fucking loan signings

 

[Eric_Brooks]

I dunno, seeing some say things like put an R next to us, cancel the season and referencing Derby’s squad being relieved seems a bit childish to me.

And what does it say about you wanting to argue with child like people

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Can’t wait to see what the PR spin on this will be doubtless it’ll be that we’ve got some great add ons in the deal and couldn’t stand in his way. But don’t worry the Prince is definitely a better owner than Kevin.

Being fair to the prince - McCabe would have sold him in January and we’d have not gone up. His balls were smaller than a church mouse

 

[Working Class Hero]

I think we should judge by the insanely low bar for a promoted club of if come the first game of the season we are weaker then we were when we went up. That seems the bare minimum and fans should be allowed to moan if we can't clear that very lowest of bars

I can't see how we're not weaker come the first game of the season. We've lost arguably our best three players from the end of last season, including our only two link up players. It's highly doubtful that we'll replace any of those with the required standard in the next 12 days.

 

[Eric_Brooks]

So what are you proposing as an alternative? Apart from having a tantrum on a forum?

Who is having a tantrum? Him, you or both?

 

[Bladesman]

Being fair to the price McCabe would have sold him in January and we’d have not gone up. His balls were smaller than a church mouse

McCabe would have sold him earlier than that. I reckon his debut season for about £3mil.

 

[BlairBlade]

Petains mob?? You mean frenchmen and women? You do know about the Vichy Government don't you?

I do.
Vichy France/Petain, etc did not represent the whole of France.
If they did, as you seem to suggest, then there would never have been any resistance. But then the French Resistance in all its many facets is a completely different and very complicated matter.
Our neighbours in the Gironde (in France) are Jews. They are, and have been, more than happy to tell us how the French hid, looked after and saved thousands and thousands of Jews during the war.
I suspect, though I am willing to be proved wrong, that they know rather more than you are I about how they and their compatriots were treated in France during the war.

 

[NateDogg]

Reyt fucks me off how I've read a few reports with Marseille saying we've been 'greedy'.

Despise Marseille on Nottingham Forest from last season levels right now.

 

[RetfordBlade]

I can't see how we're not weaker come the first game of the season. We've lost arguably our best three players from the end of last season, including our only two link up players. It's highly doubtful that we'll replace any of those with the required standard in the next 12 days.

i live in (forlorn) hope that some planning for this scenario has been done. If as u suspect your right then something has gone badly wrong, and fans deserve some answers but doubt we will get any

 

[petcharlie]

How do you know it is £13 million ? Mot everything on a social media forum is true. A player under contract who clearly doesnt want to play in the Premier League. A player who might down tools from January onwards just as Lundstram did as he us goong elsewhere and doesnt want to get injured. . A player who has turned down several contracts from us which i am sure would have been very generous.
There are always two sides to a story

The same reason you know he would down tools . Very generous you say how do you know that? Last time we were in the prem we were paying league one and championship wages which has been well documented .

 

[Fatlad666]

Of course it will effect them, your team is your family! I’m not saying they will ‘cry in a corner’, I’m saying it’ll upset the dynamic and have a negative effect on the rest of them.

Players move on all the time Coastesy , yes it will be strange for a day or two. After that head down win the next game fellow blade. Good to have different opinions without abuse

 

[Yogi]

Being fair to the price McCabe would have sold him in January and we’d have not gone up. His balls were smaller than a church mouse

I’m not sure the princes reputation as a tough negotiator is well deserved it seems like we’ve sold our assets pretty easily under him as well. Ndiaye, Rammers, Midwood and Lankshear all gone some for more some for less but I’m not sure there would have been much difference of Kevin were the sole owner. We’ve had two managers work miracles with relatively no money leading to two promotions. That’s not something that’s sustainable

 

[Bladesman]

Reyt fucks me off how I've read a few reports with Marseille saying we've been 'greedy'.

Despise Marseille on Nottingham Forest from last season levels right now.

Their fans are a right bunch of cunts. I hope their club burns to the ground in a riot.

 

[mattbianco1]

Almost every reply to this tweet is OM fans, FFS.

 

[Bladesman]