email from club - NO MORE TICKETS ON SALE IN KOP - standing & wrong seat usage

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I am no expert, but offering food and drinks pre match seems to make sense, but trying to do it at half time doesn’t. It would also stop the dozens of people who block the view as we run up to half time.
I would go along with your vending machine if I could trust all fans not to vandalise them.
They'd be easy enough to protect. Stick em behind perspex but with a hole to collect the beer and to place your card. Simple enough.

It might not make sense at half time but they do it all the same. Meaning it's there. Meaning they should put some effort in. Compass don't give a fuck. They'll make what they make and that's that. A few times I've complained and got nowhere
 
I’m always amazed by the amount of grey areas in Black & White World.
 
Both make valid points.

It’s a bit of a pity because I’d really have loved us to have been able to average 30k in the second tier. That would have been a superb achievement by the fans.

Maybe a pipe dream. We’d need 690,000 fans over 23 games. So far we’ve had 403,676 for 14 games. We’d need an average of 31,813 to achieve this now. We’d need 30,536 over the next 9 to average 29,500 and 29,258 to average 29,000.

Current capacity stands at 32,050 so with restrictions and restricted views I’d imagine the Hull game wasn’t far off being classed as a well out these days.

It’s a real shame some parts of the ground were built cheaply that we even have restricted view tickets. Hope there is a way to resolve this over time.

Anyway, I’m terms of turn out, our support has been tremendous this season.


Kip restrictions and restricted views aren’t different things.,
 
Wonder if prospective new owner would start selling the non ST Kop seats again if the takeover completes?

Increased revenue, fans goodwill/feel good factor, increased crowds capability likely during run in and hopefully better atmosphere!

Gamble no returning issues that caused restrictions in first place against above benefits?

One can hope!
 
When Man Utd scored their third last night, the hoardings at the front came down, several fans and stewards fell down, luckily no children from what I could see but could have been nasty.

Like lots of clubs, their away fans stand all game and don't sit where they should. It's ridiculous. With the social media obsession for ''limbs'' and ''mass celebrations'' it's so dangerous, actually more so than when just standing, as there are seats in the way.

Personally I believe Sheffield council are doing the right thing and trying to avoid an incident. But why aren't more clubs, councils, etc. doing more? When the kids were smaller I always moved to the side seats at away games to avoid issues, but that's not always possible.
 
Were people not allowed to sit at the top? Was it taped off

Sounds like a lot of people who normally went on the kop might have gone on the SS. Did the kop 'sell out'?
 

I thought the kop looked better last night for a lower crowd. Having everyone on the bottom/middle bit instead of spaced out allover. Even some standing up on middle row 🤣😛 (made ground look fuller too)
Enjoyed it last night on the Kop. No problems getting in. No queues for food/drink. Plenty of room in the toilets. We had a singing and standing section just behind us meaning more were joining in with the songs. Add in a biased ref which galvanised us and we were all jumping up and hugging people we don't usually sit with when the second and third goals went in. The rendition of you've seen United now fck off home was particularly loud in this section :D.
 
UPDATE FOLLOWING FURTHER MONITORING AND CONVERSATIONS:

Think there will be more communication this week, but in essence, for at least Swansea and Middlesbrough:


  • There will be enhanced ticket checking on the Kop for games going forward, we would request that supporters arrive in plenty of time to enable this process and to occupy the seat aligned with your season ticket
  • We are repositioning our CCTV cameras in an attempt to highlight those not occupying their seat and potentially pick out those who will not comply with ground regulations
  • The club is losing around £30,000 per game by not selling match tickets on the Kop (this is variable with ticket prices for varying for category of games)
  • The club has received further communication from Sheffield Council praising our efforts so far but concerned that we are not getting the correct results. Council officers together with representatives of the Sports Grounds Safety Authority have been in attendance in recent games as we have taken time to monitor if our previous efforts have been successful
  • The Council, as the certifying authority, could look to other enforcement alternatives.
 
UPDATE FOLLOWING FURTHER MONITORING AND CONVERSATIONS:

Think there will be more communication this week, but in essence, for at least Swansea and Middlesbrough:


  • There will be enhanced ticket checking on the Kop for games going forward, we would request that supporters arrive in plenty of time to enable this process and to occupy the seat aligned with your season ticket
  • We are repositioning our CCTV cameras in an attempt to highlight those not occupying their seat and potentially pick out those who will not comply with ground regulations
  • The club is losing around £30,000 per game by not selling match tickets on the Kop (this is variable with ticket prices for varying for category of games)
  • The club has received further communication from Sheffield Council praising our efforts so far but concerned that we are not getting the correct results. Council officers together with representatives of the Sports Grounds Safety Authority have been in attendance in recent games as we have taken time to monitor if our previous efforts have been successful
  • The Council, as the certifying authority, could look to other enforcement alternatives.
Have they specified what the issue is? Given the reduced capacity is the issue still overcrowding in specific areas of the Kop or just the general issue of people not sitting in their allocated seats?
 
Have they specified what the issue is? Given the reduced capacity is the issue still overcrowding in specific areas of the Kop or just the general issue of people not sitting in their allocated seats?
They'll have created another issue if the original one was sorted, they're probably just coming up with what it is now.
 
Have they specified what the issue is? Given the reduced capacity is the issue still overcrowding in specific areas of the Kop or just the general issue of people not sitting in their allocated seats?
  • We are repositioning our CCTV cameras in an attempt to highlight those not occupying their seat and potentially pick out those who will not comply with ground regulations
That I'd guess
 
  • We are repositioning our CCTV cameras in an attempt to highlight those not occupying their seat and potentially pick out those who will not comply with ground regulations
That I'd guess
Won’t be getting full capacity back anytime this season then if a complete elimination of everyone not sitting in their allocated seats is the aim
 

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