Outgoing? SANDER BERGE ON WAY OUT ?

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IF Liverpool were to come in for him then the player will decide and probably push it through all of this release clause business will be futile.

How will he push it through if Liverpool don't meet our valuation? I accept that Liverpool, AC Milan, Arsenal etc will be hugely attractive to any player, but those clubs still need to meet the asking price.

If they don't and Sander decides to start acting up, then he will end up losing out as we have ample options in AM positions now, so he risks being benched and watching his attractiveness to other clubs decline.
 
If, in today’s market, MGW is worth £40m plus, Sander Berge is actually good value for money at £35m……and not a penny less 😡
MGW is only worth that because Wolves had a desperate, wealthy buyer who had made him their number one target. If there’s no Forest interest, he’s worth much less. For now it seems to be the case with Sander that lots of teams are interested, but they’re either not exactly rich (Club Brugge) or could probably take or leave him (Prem clubs). The main question is whether any club can meet this release clause.
 
Good source tonight from inside the club, he's going - just waiting for the top bid to roll in. Unlikely to meet the release fee. Berge more than happy to keep playing until that bid is accepted - enjoys playing here but that's where it ends.
Really didn’t need a “source inside the club” for that. He’s going but only if a top bid comes in and it’s accepted. No shit 😂. Could say the same for every player at the club. They’re all going when we get an acceptable bid for them.
 
Really didn’t need a “source inside the club” for that. He’s going but only if a top bid comes in and it’s accepted. No shit 😂. Could say the same for every player at the club. They’re all going when we get an acceptable bid for them.
Don't think I worded it particularly well after a few beers last night 🤣 But yeah, just passing on what I was told - it's not far off, more concrete bids expected fairly imminently.
 
MGW is only worth that because Wolves had a desperate, wealthy buyer who had made him their number one target. If there’s no Forest interest, he’s worth much less. For now it seems to be the case with Sander that lots of teams are interested, but they’re either not exactly rich (Club Brugge) or could probably take or leave him (Prem clubs). The main question is whether any club can meet this release clause.
"Worth" isn't a thing. It's all about leverage. Forest made it clear they had to have MGW so Wolves were in charge

See United - Swansea - McBurnie and United - Liverpool - Brewster

If you don't have another option and the person your negotiating with knows that you're basically fucked
 
Don't think I worded it particularly well after a few beers last night 🤣 But yeah, just passing on what I was told - it's not far off, more concrete bids expected fairly imminently.
Honestly don’t see him leaving unless his release fee is met now. Sell him on the cheap (£25m+) or keep him and win promotion (£150m+). Those are the kind of numbers the Prince likes to see.
 
Honestly don’t see him leaving unless his release fee is met now. Sell him on the cheap (£25m+) or keep him and win promotion (£150m+). Those are the kind of numbers the Prince likes to see.
Wont be 150m if we get promoted, at that point he will have one year left on his contract like Phillips did, so maybe 45-50m.
 

For what it is worth I think he'll go probably on deadline day.

Did anyone see the video at the end of the match yesterday I think it was on Facebook Berge goes to shake hands with the Blackburn keeper and then speaks with him but covers his mouth, I know he probably knows him from his time at Genk but just seemed strange, obviously telling him something he didn't want the camera to pick up. I guess he could have been telling him his pin number.
 
For what it is worth I think he'll go probably on deadline day.

Did anyone see the video at the end of the match yesterday I think it was on Facebook Berge goes to shake hands with the Blackburn keeper and then speaks with him but covers his mouth, I know he probably knows him from his time at Genk but just seemed strange, obviously telling him something he didn't want the camera to pick up. I guess he could have been telling him his pin number.
They all do it.
Got Bristol v Cardiff on now & they’re all at it.
No-one wants anything they say to be picked up on so pretty much every conversation is now conducted in this way.
So it doesn’t seem strange in that respect & you’re right, it could have been anything……
“You kept the score decent today mate.”
“Your round in the bar, pal. I’ll have a Babycham shandy.”
“How the fuck were you top of the league?”
“What do you reckon the supporters think we’re talking about when we have our hands like this?”
“Is that the first time you’ve ever been beaten by a shot from someone’s arse?”
“Oi mate, don’t tell anyone but I’m on the way out of here to (insert made up club here) for (insert made up amount here). Don’t forget, Mum’s the word.”
 
For what it is worth I think he'll go probably on deadline day.

Did anyone see the video at the end of the match yesterday I think it was on Facebook Berge goes to shake hands with the Blackburn keeper and then speaks with him but covers his mouth, I know he probably knows him from his time at Genk but just seemed strange, obviously telling him something he didn't want the camera to pick up. I guess he could have been telling him his pin number.

Have you watched football on TV before?
 
He seems happy, a good lad, a good character and willing to contribute - who genuinely values his teammates and is playing some lovely stuff - but he's also ambitious for more. You can be both things simultaneously.

The crunch point now, will come down to numbers and the interests of the board. As has been hinted, take the highest bid (his remaining value in terms of remaining contract time) now or chance your hand and hope that promotion brings you in a shed load more.
 
Keep till end of the season. We get promoted, he either goes for a higher price or stays. No point selling late in a window where we cannot even get close to replacing him and only thing having to show for it is a better cash flow for a few months.
 
Rewatched the 15 minutes highlights on sky sports this morning. The amount of good moves that came from something Berge started. I really hope we stick firmly to our 35 million or not going limit. And then in January he decides he wants to stay even if a bid comes in....
 
I don’t think he’s a starter in anything other than a low end PL team and in that case there’s a good chance he gets relegated again. Liverpool wouldn’t buy him to play him. You’d hope that the club have said “give us this season and if we don’t go up we’ll listen to any offers”. Win win, he plays and we keep him.
 
Look, If Sander attracts the attention of any of the top six clubs, I’d wholeheartedly wish him well. But what would really disappoint me is if one of the shitehawk clubs like Leeds, Forest, Wolves or Villa came knocking.
 
And ignoring the cost to keep him or the loss/impact if promotion isn’t secured.
The cost to keep him? You mean the contract we agreed with him? Why are our fans so negative all the time? 😂. Promotion is easier to achieve if you keep your best players. Should we just sell all our players now in case we don’t get promoted and to offset the “cost to keep them”?
 
The cost to keep him? You mean the contract we agreed with him? Why are our fans so negative all the time? 😂. Promotion is easier to achieve if you keep your best players. Should we just sell all our players now in case we don’t get promoted and to offset the “cost to keep them”?
It's mad. McCabe is gone, move on. Some of our supporters would rather we had Matt Spring in midfield and watch us chunter along in mid-table than show a bit of steel, keep our talismanic midfielder and walk the league so long as it makes the spreadsheets purr.

If it were up to me I'd be slapping a new contract on the table and offering to treble his wage the minute promotion is secured
 

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