Uefa Women's Euro 2022 at Bramall Lane

[WaveyDavey]

This is a bit of a weird question but...... Does anyone know if the memorial garden area near the entrance to the club shop is still accessible whilst the women's euros are on? My mum wants to go down on Saturday as we have a memorial plaque there for my dad but she wasn't sure it would be possible. I've told her I can't see why it wouldn't be but then thought I'd put the question out to the wider audience just in case etc....


TIA.

 

[bladesmanluke]

This is a bit of a weird question but...... Does anyone know if the memorial garden area near the entrance to the club shop is still accessible whilst the women's euros are on? My mum wants to go down on Saturday as we have a memorial plaque there for my dad but she wasn't sure it would be possible. I've told her I can't see why it wouldn't be but then thought I'd put the question out to the wider audience just in case etc....


TIA.

I don't know, but I'm with you in that I don't see any reason why not. Just remember they've shut off access to Cherry Street from Shoreham Street so you'll need to use Bramall Lane, or park elsewhere

 

[ChrisBlade]

"... Beth Mead moves to within one goal of Wayne Rooney's all-time scoring record..."

For me, it is that type of reporting by the BBC that keeps creating divisions. Apples and oranges, and not a comparison or record to be viewed in conjunction with the men's game.

 

[The Bear]

It would be interesting to see what level of mens football they could compete against.

Sheffield Wednesday?

 

[PTBlade]

The women's sport that has amazed me the most with its development is Rugby union. Great to watch and the level of skill on display is fantastic. Well worth watching.

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

"... Beth Mead moves to within one goal of Wayne Rooney's all-time scoring record..."

For me, it is that type of reporting by the BBC that keeps creating divisions. Apples and oranges, and not a comparison or record to be viewed in conjunction with the men's game.

No, men being embarrassingly insecure about things like this is what creates division

Let’s just stop pretending that the men’s team & records is the be all and end all when all they’ve ever achieved is perennial failure

End of the day, caps, goals are an England record, if you aren’t describing the men’s team as “England Men” every time you reference them, stop crying about the women being included when records are referenced

It is an England record, men or women, end of

 

[Flumps]

No, men being embarrassingly insecure about things like this is what creates division

Let’s just stop pretending that the men’s team & records is the be all and end all when all they’ve ever achieved is perennial failure

End of the day, caps, goals are an England record, if you aren’t describing the men’s team as “England Men” every time you reference them, stop crying about the women being included when records are referenced

It is an England record, men or women, end of

I'm sorry but I can't agree with that.

Putting all the records together suggests a level playing field and this is no criticism but it just isn't.

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

I'm sorry but I can't agree with that.

Putting all the records together suggests a level playing field and this is no criticism but it just isn't.

Yeah, the men should be better

 

[Flumps]

Yeah, the men should be better

Fair point. Fuck em.

 

[ChrisBlade]

No, men being embarrassingly insecure about things like this is what creates division

Let’s just stop pretending that the men’s team & records is the be all and end all when all they’ve ever achieved is perennial failure

End of the day, caps, goals are an England record, if you aren’t describing the men’s team as “England Men” every time you reference them, stop crying about the women being included when records are referenced

It is an England record, men or women, end of

Nope. I don't agree either. Nothing to do with insecurity, just different sports or competitions. You would not compare 100 metre times or the likes across genders because you inherently accept that girls won't be close. A report of "Richard Nincompoop won the Sheffield University men's race, beating the British women's record by half a second" would be classed as counter-intuitive and unhelpful.

In football, the boot is on the other foot, i.e. goal records are significantly easier to achieve as the competitions isn't as fierce - possibly within matches themselves, but certainly in terms of the competition for places on the England team.

So men shouldn't be better. They play a different game with different challenges that make records difficult to compare. The BBC quote the comparison purely to shine a light of excellence on Beth Mead by some kind of reflective glory in relation to Rooney. Not needed, as she already has achieved unrivalled glory by being the English record holder in her own branch of the game.

I also doubt that if she beats the record (as she surely will later in the tournament), but then breaks her leg or retires and is reeled in by some guy like Kane five years down the line, that any report would be along the lines that Harry Kane becomes the England record scorer, taking over from Beth Mead.

You wouldn't quote "Alan Shearer has now moved within one goal of Lewandowski's Bundesliga scoring record" if all Shearer's goals are scored in the Prem. More apples and oranges, and no journalist would dream of comparing the two types of achievement because they know the parameters are vastly different.

So you and the BBC subscribe to the same agenda of artificially trying to sell apples and oranges as sub-species of the same fruit. Good luck with that, along with the accompanying trick of labeling fair analysis "insecure" or old-fashioned.

 

[Mesut Özil's Lawnmower]

Nope. I don't agree either. Nothing to do with insecurity, just different sports or competitions. You would not compare 100 metre times or the likes across genders because you inherently accept that girls won't be close. A report of "Richard Nincompoop won the Sheffield University men's race, beating the British women's record by half a second" would be classed as counter-intuitive and unhelpful.

In football, the boot is on the other foot, i.e. goal records are significantly easier to achieve as the competitions isn't as fierce - possibly within matches themselves, but certainly in terms of the competition for places on the England team.

So men shouldn't be better. They play a different game with different challenges that make records difficult to compare. The BBC quote the comparison purely to shine a light of excellence on Beth Mead by some kind of reflective glory in relation to Rooney. Not needed, as she already has achieved unrivalled glory by being the English record holder in her own branch of the game.

I also doubt that if she beats the record (as she surely will later in the tournament), but then breaks her leg or retires and is reeled in by some guy like Kane five years down the line, that any report would be along the lines that Harry Kane becomes the England record scorer, taking over from Beth Mead.

You wouldn't quote "Alan Shearer has now moved within one goal of Lewandowski's Bundesliga scoring record" if all Shearer's goals are scored in the Prem. More apples and oranges, and no journalist would dream of comparing the two types of achievement because they know the parameters are vastly different.

So you and the BBC subscribe to the same agenda of artificially trying to sell apples and oranges as sub-species of the same fruit. Good luck with that, along with the accompanying trick of labeling fair analysis "insecure" or old-fashioned.

can’t believe you’ve written a whole dissertation to try and disprove your fragile masculinity

 

[Sheffsteel]

can’t believe you’ve written a whole dissertation to try and disprove your fragile masculinity

Some subjects are quite difficult to discuss on a forum. It's much better done face to face.

Many people make their own interpretations of the words they see, then it's easy to jump to conclusions. In the right context I agree with Mesut Ozul's male insecurity viewpoint and I've seen plenty of comments that appear to fall into that category but then again I also agree with Chris about an agenda being pushed and how it's becoming taboo for professionals (reporters, pundits) to dare to criticise women's football in public, otherwise they risk losing their jobs.

It's common sense really, women have the physical strength of 16 year old boys and in physical sports, strength and fitness becomes a significant factor.
So it's can't be compared to the mens game, it's like a different sport.

Regards the positive discrimination and agenda, normally I'm a tad uncomfortable with an agenda.However personally I think sport, especially team sports enriches ones lives and has so many advantages, so personally I like the idea of girls and women being encouraged and given the opportunity to play a team sport.
So in this case I'm OK with the agenda being driven by the BBC, also to be fair, they've bought the rights to show women's football on TV, so of course they are going to heavily promote their product. I sometimes used to cringe when Sky Sports would build up PL matches like Burnley versus Crystal Palace as being mouth watering.

 

[ChrisBlade]

can’t believe you’ve written a whole dissertation to try and disprove your fragile masculinity

Nope. I have made an attempt to engage with you on a fairly non-emotional level that you have no interest in. There is obviously a lot of history of cheaply putting the women's game down. I have no interest in that. I also have not done that in any way. My original post was in response to Pompey's earlier train of thought.

In any event, it is logically a possibility to be insecure and correct. So keep mowing your lawn with Germany finest's Erdogan apologist...

 

[Flumps]

Nope. I have made an attempt to engage with you on a fairly non-emotional level that you have no interest in. There is obviously a lot of history of cheaply putting the women's game down. I have no interest in that. I also have not done that in any way. My original post was in response to Pompey's earlier train of thought.

In any event, it is logically a possibility to be insecure and correct. So keep mowing your lawn with Germany finest's Erdogan apologist...

I tried that and got a simple "maybe the men should try harder"

Wouldn't even bother to be honest

 

[Sothall_Blade]

"... Beth Mead moves to within one goal of Wayne Rooney's all-time scoring record..."

For me, it is that type of reporting by the BBC that keeps creating divisions. Apples and oranges, and not a comparison or record to be viewed in conjunction with the men's game.

Ellen White not Beth Mead

Beth Mead is one goal behind David Platt though

 

[Berkshire Blade]

England record goal scorer stat doesn't mean much to me. How can you legitimately compare the eras Bobby Charlton and Harry Kane play in let alone genders.

 

[Inter_blade83]

England record goal scorer stat doesn't mean much to me. How can you legitimately compare the eras Bobby Charlton and Harry Kane play in let alone genders.

Same for F1. Max and Lewis regularly respond to the press questions with the fact they race more now so it's not comparable

 

[Katzenjammer]

Just walked past the Frog and Parrot and there were several Sweden fans sat outside.

And I for one welcome our new Divisjön Street overlords

 

[WhiteHawk]

Just walked past the Frog and Parrot and there were several Sweden fans sat outside.

And I for one welcome our new Divisjön Street overlords

They're a bit early, they don't play till tomorrow.

 

[Hallam Blade]

Taking my sister to the game tomorrow and grabbed a solo ticket for Sunday. Thinking we drink with the Swedes tomorrow, then I get tangled in that orange mess of Dutch fans on Sunday. Exciting.

Really mad at myself for not buying a semi-final ticket when I had the chance.

Just walked past the Frog and Parrot and there were several Sweden fans sat outside.

And I for one welcome our new Divisjön Street overlords

This bodes well for tomorrow!

 

[WhiteHawk]

Taking my sister to the game tomorrow and grabbed a solo ticket for Sunday. Thinking we drink with the Swedes tomorrow, then I get tangled in that orange mess of Dutch fans on Sunday. Exciting.

Just bought a ticket for Sunday. Plan is to get into town for about 12.30 and venture into the fan park in the hope that some Dutch fans will see I'm on my own and adopt me!!

 

[Inter_blade83]

Taking my sister to the game tomorrow and grabbed a solo ticket for Sunday. Thinking we drink with the Swedes tomorrow, then I get tangled in that orange mess of Dutch fans on Sunday. Exciting.

Really mad at myself for not buying a semi-final ticket when I had the chance.



This bodes well for tomorrow!

They'll become available again, just be a rush for tickets.

I have 5 for Sunday's game, thought it would be a good time to take some of the young uns to their first game.

 

[WhiteHawk]

They'll become available again, just be a rush for tickets.

I have 5 for Sunday's game, thought it would be a good time to take some of the young uns to their first game.

They're releasing the tickets in stages, when I looked last night, this is what was available.





Go on now, and this is what's available.




Although the semi final currently isn't showing as available at all so it may well have sold out.

 

[WhiteHawk]

Ball_Sup (Phil)

What's the crack with tickets for this then? I've bought one, and downloaded the UEFA Tickets app but the FAQ's I read said that I need to connect to the internet to load my ticket, and it won't be activated till about 11am on the day of the game, yet I've already got a notification in the app that my ticket is there. Can I view the ticket/load it now and download/screenshot it or do I have to wait till it has been activated on Sunday before I can access it?

It also says I need to have my Bluetooth turned on and I need to assign tickets? There's only me so do I still need to assign the ticket? And why on earth do I need my Bluetooth on?

I was expecting the ticket to just be emailed TBH.........

 

[WhiteHawk]

Anyway, anyone got a Netherlands shirt they'd like to lend me or know where I can get a cheap one?!

 

[Fatlad666]

They're a bit early, they don't play till tomorrow.

Anyone who starts early are my new friend's

 

[Fatlad666]

Anyway, anyone got a Netherlands shirt they'd like to lend me or know where I can get a cheap one?!

Amsterdam 10 euro lady of the night will give you anything

 

[Bath Blade]

Ball_Sup (Phil)

What's the crack with tickets for this then? I've bought one, and downloaded the UEFA Tickets app but the FAQ's I read said that I need to connect to the internet to load my ticket, and it won't be activated till about 11am on the day of the game, yet I've already got a notification in the app that my ticket is there. Can I view the ticket/load it now and download/screenshot it or do I have to wait till it has been activated on Sunday before I can access it?

It also says I need to have my Bluetooth turned on and I need to assign tickets? There's only me so do I still need to assign the ticket? And why on earth do I need my Bluetooth on?

I was expecting the ticket to just be emailed TBH.........

The Bluetooth needs to be switched on because that’s the way the ticket is activated. There will be stewards on the walk to the ground who will activate the ticket through the app, which will then mean the QR code becomes available which you can then scan at the turnstile (that’s the way it worked for the Euros at Wembley last summer anyway).

It’s to stop tickets being sold on (admittedly less of an issue with the women’s Euros).

 

[WhiteHawk]

The Bluetooth needs to be switched on because that’s the way the ticket is activated. There will be stewards on the walk to the ground who will activate the ticket through the app, which will then mean the QR code becomes available which you can then scan at the turnstile (that’s the way it worked for the Euros at Wembley last summer anyway).

It’s to stop tickets being sold on (admittedly less of an issue with the women’s Euros).

Nice one, my Bluetooth is NEVER turned on so I'll have to make sure I do that on Sunday then. I'm assuming then that my phone will detect the stewards (or rather the devices they have) and the ticket will be activated automatically? Surely I don't need to actually see a steward to get the ticket activated?

 

[Bath Blade]

Nice one, my Bluetooth is NEVER turned on so I'll have to make sure I do that on Sunday then. I'm assuming then that my phone will detect the stewards (or rather the devices they have) and the ticket will be activated automatically? Surely I don't need to actually see a steward to get the ticket activated?

They’ll have a cordon set up so you have to go past a steward to get to the ground, and they’ll scan your phone with their device as you walk past which will automatically activate your ticket. It actually worked smoothly at the Euros last summer (until the final when lots stormed the gates).