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It takes place today. Remember how shocked, and how awful we all felt? Some wanting answers. You may get some today. Do we really need them? If it helps some them I hope so.
Thoughts with all who were affected beyond normal grief (whatever that is). Even those who arn't connected to the family.
 



Taking place in Warrington today.
Not sure if anything will come out today though - these things normally take a while.
Sad business - everything seemingly going for him
RIP Speedo
 
I thought today was just to confirm it was suicide, and not foul play. The inquest will not be going into the reasons why (I think).
 
Well, i think it certainly comes a bit clearer now then, and that it was likely that depression was the root cause.
 
Just seen it on the News. On the night before his death, Gary went to a party with his wife, they returned & "exchanged words", she went for a drive "to clear her head", she returned but fell asleep in the car (eh?) & found Gary the following morning. Sounds dodgy to me. RIP Gary
 
Seems strange that you would text your wife to mention that you were contemplating suicide although as discussed at the time, I guess logic and straight thinking aren't top of the agenda for someone in that position. To go from that to 'exchanging a few words' and 'may still be an accident', still more questions than answers.
 
I suggested at the time that it was a relationship issue. These issues are always terribly complex deeply personal but because your'e in the public eye played out in court in other a divorce or sadly in Gary Speed's case the coroner's court.

From the reaction of his wife I would suggest she blames herself for what happened but never thought he would actually do what he did. The only good that can come out of this is through learning and ultimately helping all of us faced with these terribly emotive issues if and when they arise but to Gary's family sadly it wont bring him back.

On a not unrelated theme I was talking to a train conductor who I know well, and he said his driver was off sick following a suicide. Apparently a young woman threw herself off a station platform as the train was coming through at 60mph. He is having flashbacks and nightmares over it. Horrible absolutely awful. As I said to my friend, the young lady decided to do it. It was tragically a concsious decision. The driver, who I also know a bit, should not beat himself up over it. But he has and it is his second suicide. Much worse in my view for someone who genuinely gets killed in an accident.

'Tis all terribly sad.
 
Its very sad.

It sounds like they were having a bit of a rocky spell in their marriage. Is that depression?
 
I find it dodgy that she couldn't get into the house despite going for a drive (I tend to have my house keys on my car keys). Also, I couldn't get in the house I would be alerting whoever possible, not just going to sleep in the car...

I'm not sure I wanted to know anything more about it as it just brings it all back up. However, on the other hand it may allow other people in the same sort of scenario get help and get over the problems rather than feeling they had to do what Gary did.

RIP Gary - Always loved, never forgotten.
 
As if you wouldn't remember the last ever conversation you had with your now dead husband.

Something stinks.
 
All this speculation is as uninformed as Olle's musings on Beatties wages and about as useful.
 



bentheblade said:
I find it dodgy that she couldn't get into the house despite going for a drive (I tend to have my house keys on my car keys). Also, I couldn't get in the house I would be alerting whoever possible, not just going to sleep in the car
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I have my car keys separate as I go out without the car so wouldnt want to be taking car keys out when I dont need them
PeterNdlovu081 said:
As if you wouldn't remember the last ever conversation you had with your now dead husband.

Something stinks.
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She will remember the conversation but obviously doesnt want the world to know what it was about, theres been enough gossip without her having to reveal the exact intimate details of the last conversation she had with her husband to the public and the press. Some things need to remain private
 
Why this morbid interest in the inquest of man who's only claim to fame is his skill as a footballer? The truth will probably never be known publically and, indeed, why should it. This was a tragedy for his family and friends and I find it unsavoury that the media vultures are circulating to uncover a seedy story. His family should be left alone to pick up the pieces of their life and this raising him to cult hero status is not helpful IMO
 
I don't think there is a morbid interest from Blades fans who knew him from his time at the Lane, I think in this case the interest is more personal, and on that basis there is anger and dismay. Though you may be right from the point of view of the general public.
 
siamesegirl said:
I don't think there is a morbid interest from Blades fans who knew him from his time at the Lane, I think in this case the interest is more personal, and on that basis there is anger and dismay. Though you may be right from the point of view of the general public.
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Perfectly reasonable viewpoint SG but how many actually knew him personally? I saw him as a Mr Nice Guy, an exceptional footballer. However, he did little or nothing for SUFC ....or have I missed something
 
I agree, more questions than answers but reading through it all it's obvious that he and his missus were having a few troubles that culmintaed in an argument after the party, that lead to her being locked out of the house, (by accident or on purpose??). If Gary was suffering depression there would have been more signs, the suicide would have been planned and a suicide note left, (statistically).

I can personally only conclude that he killed himself in a fit of peak to get back at his wife..........
 
I am quite shocked at how much of a munter she is when you consider how good looking GS was (so the Mrs tells me).

Looks like there was a boat load of insecurity there that manifest itslef in relentless accusations and nagging.
In football you have to be away from home a lot, especially an international manager. If yopu marry a footballer you should expect that and accept it.
Not sure she did.
 
SoccerCynic said:
Perfectly reasonable viewpoint SG but how many actually knew him personally? I saw him as a Mr Nice Guy, an exceptional footballer. However, he did little or nothing for SUFC ....or have I missed something
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I know a member of backroom staff who did.

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Kenilworth said:
I am quite shocked at how much of a munter she is when you consider how good looking GS was (so the Mrs tells me).

Looks like there was a boat load of insecurity there that manifest itslef in relentless accusations and nagging.
In football you have to be away from home a lot, especially an international manager. If yopu marry a footballer you should expect that and accept it.
Not sure she did.
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This has given me the first laugh on this topic for two months! Cheers!
 
Something just doesn't feel right here.. why would you sleep in the car in mid November rather than bang on the doors to get someone to let you in, the kids were there so I'm fairly sure they would have heard her?!
 
norfolkblade said:
Something just doesn't feel right here.. why would you sleep in the car in mid November rather than bang on the doors to get someone to let you in, the kids were there so I'm fairly sure they would have heard her?!
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Yep, it's all well dodgy. I know people show / hide emotion in different ways, but his missus hasn't exactly looked overwhelmed with grief either.
 
norfolkblade said:
Something just doesn't feel right here.. why would you sleep in the car in mid November rather than bang on the doors to get someone to let you in, the kids were there so I'm fairly sure they would have heard her?!
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Maybe she spent the night with someone else? Maybe she was having an affair and that's what they were arguing about?
Maybe that's why he threatened to kill himself? Maybe her driving off to be with the other man at 1:00 AM was the final straw?
I don't claim to have any inside information but that's one possible conclusion which fits the facts.
I know it's probably wrong for strangers to speculate but the manner of his death made that inevitable.
 
Sothall_Blade said:
Maybe she spent the night with someone else? Maybe she was having an affair and that's what they were arguing about?
Maybe that's why he threatened to kill himself? Maybe her driving off to be with the other man at 1:00 AM was the final straw?
I don't claim to have any inside information but that's one possible conclusion which fits the facts.
I know it's probably wrong for strangers to speculate but the manner of his death made that inevitable.
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There's definately more to it than meets the eye but everyone is jumping on the Missus' back presuming she pushed him to it.

Maybe Gary was a right bastard to her and she's actually relieved he's gone, hence the apparent lack of emotion?
Maybe Gary was fed up of his marriage and did it to get back at her?

The point is no-one really knows what went on and what goes on behind closed doors in general. We all want to put Gary up on this pedastal because he was a "good bloke" but who knows what really made him do it?

It's his kids I feel for because no matterwhat the reason, they have lost their Dad.
 



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