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Despite all the vitrol and Olle is talking shite, no one is willing to take on the bet. Surprise, surprise.



Actually it would just be 2 pints, because I would have to buy you one for BT being in the team and winning. But what are the chances of BT actually laying the ball off (or Creswell or Poreter scoring for that matter) when he could shoot?!



Eh? Only a mad man would propose that. BT is better than Porter. However I am better than Porter.

The simple fact is that if Beattie is fit and on form then people will win the bet. If he plays, scores and United win then the pints are on me. If he doesn't play, plays and doesn't score or the team play better without him, then the pints are my opponent. We've heard all this bollocks about 'if he's fit, then he'll score a hatful', 'it's a no brainer', 'the only class player since we got relegated', 'Olle you are talking shite' etc etc. Yet no one is willing to run the gauntlet. Imagine how sweet the beer would taste if you could say 'I told you so' to Ollessendro's face. But people are scared. Why? Well deep down I guess there are seeds of doubt about Beattie's fitness, injury record and weight. You're all willing criticise me when I say 'BT is a lazy, individual player that has a negative effect on the team' yet none of you dare take the challenge. How truly pathetic!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH5ay10RTGY
 
Here's a fairer bet. Every match that Beattie doesn't score in gets you a pint. But every match that Beattie does score in gets me a bottle of malt whisky of my choice.

If Beattie is as shit as you say, you're quids in. And there's no way you can lose, is there?


P.S. I like nice malts from the islands and west coast. None of that Glenfiddich shit.


Weary of the expense of Islay Malts? Simply take a trip to your local Garden Centre or Supermarket where a bag of peat is available for as little as £1. Either add to water or just chew raw.
 
Weary of the expense of Islay Malts? Simply take a trip to your local Garden Centre or Supermarket where a bag of peat is available for as little as £1. Either add to water or just chew raw.

Jura 1976 vintage. Only £500 a bottle......
 
Willing to revise my bet a little.

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- BT plays a game and we do not win

My point is that the team always played better without BT. His individualism, lazyness and apathy made us a worse team. Plus his selfishness and the BT show was detrimental to the team. Plus there are huge question marks over his fitness. The BT lovers have been saying for months that Beattie is a fantastic goalscorer, we would have gone up if we kept him and how much of a talisman he is. If that is true, then we'll win when he plays and he will score lots. This bet is pretty fair and reflective of my point. The mediocrity lovers can either stop criticising my opinion or run the gauntlet. Simples!
 
I'll take you up on it if you take the injury related clause out of it. He could be on the end of a 'shawcross' through no fault of his own and you'd be getting bladdered on it.
 
Willing to revise my bet a little.

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- BT plays a game and we do not win

My point is that the team always played better without BT. His individualism, lazyness and apathy made us a worse team. Plus his selfishness and the BT show was detrimental to the team. Plus there are huge question marks over his fitness. The BT lovers have been saying for months that Beattie is a fantastic goalscorer, we would have gone up if we kept him and how much of a talisman he is. If that is true, then we'll win when he plays and he will score lots. This bet is pretty fair and reflective of my point. The mediocrity lovers can either stop criticising my opinion or run the gauntlet. Simples!

What are the BT lovers, are they the same as the :heart: hoof brigade, the fans of mediocrity, people unworthy of RAPTA membership, the lager drinkers?

People aren't taking up your bet, because it is part of the tedious notion that you are this forums resident wit, the forum self-appointed leader, and the belief that you are right in everything that you post and anyone who doesn't agree with you automatically becomes classified as a lover of lager, hoof, and mediocrity lovers.

The bottom line is that James Beattie is a footballer who is well liked amongst the Sheffield United, hence a lot of people are pleased to see him return, he has come in on a low cost, low risk deal, wants to play for Sheffield United, and people want him to do well. We have had a crappy two years and it would be make people a lot happier to see James Beattie pull on a Blades shirt and do well. Sorry if that offends you but that is the way it is.

As for humour, take a look at the one-liners that Raul comes out with, look at ShorehamView, they are both quite witty, maybe you should have a look at them and see how they do it, rather than spinning out your relentless, tedious and self-important drivel, time and time again. Especially when you regurgitate your original tedious threads, it wasn't funny the first time, and it isn't funny this time.
 
Basically Ollessendro has carefully made sure he has got himself into a position regarding Beattie where he can't be proved wrong.

He keeps falling back on the statement that we play better without Beattie because his laziness and selfishness is destructive to the team.

So even if Beattie scores shitloads of goals Ollessendro will only end up with egg on his face if we rise up into the automatic promotion places which is unlikely to happen anyway. Anything less and Ollessendro will be bleating on about how Beattie has held us back and made us worse etc.
 
the tedious notion that you are this forums resident wit................
As for humour, take a look at the one-liners that Raul comes out with, look at ShorehamView, they are both quite witty, maybe you should have a look at them and see how they do it...........when you regurgitate your original tedious threads, it wasn't funny the first time, and it isn't funny this time.

Fucking hell. I'd love to find out how I do it, I'd make a bloody fortune. It's not by sitting in my shed wittering on about hooves and beer with twigs and vole poo in it though.


Hang on a minute Brownie. Quite witty?

As for how many times it's funny, well, there's no legislating for taste. Mrs SV, for instance, thinks that Keeping Up Appearances is funnier than Phoenix Nights.

See? Some people do like shit comedy. Think of Olle's posts as the forum equivalent of Last Of The Summer Wine. The same scripts tirelessly recycled for the last Christ only knows how long, unless you look it up, which frankly I can't be arsed to do. Look at the Shed Thread as Olle's take on Nora Batty's stockings, and all this real ale nonsense as Compo's wellies and wooly hat. Pensioners up and down the land love all that shit.

"Look Marjorie, they're sliding down that hill. In a bathtub. Again. They've only done that thirty eight times. Can I smell piss?"

Hilarious.
 
fucking hell. I'd love to find out how i do it, i'd make a bloody fortune. It's not by sitting in my shed wittering on about hooves and beer with twigs and vole poo in it though.


Hang on a minute brownie. quite witty?

As for how many times it's funny, well, there's no legislating for taste. Mrs sv, for instance, thinks that keeping up appearances is funnier than phoenix nights.

See? Some people do like shit comedy. Think of olle's posts as the forum equivalent of last of the summer wine. The same scripts tirelessly recycled for the last christ only knows how long, unless you look it up, which frankly i can't be arsed to do. Look at the shed thread as olle's take on nora batty's stockings, and all this real ale nonsense as compo's wellies and wooly hat. Pensioners up and down the land love all that shit.

"look marjorie, they're sliding down that hill. In a bathtub. Again. They've only done that thirty eight times. Can i smell piss?"

hilarious.

^ this ^ :)
 
So even if Beattie scores shitloads of goals Ollessendro will only end up with egg on his face if we rise up into the automatic promotion places which is unlikely to happen anyway.

Assuming any long term contract is going to be an expensive one, promotion or no promotion will surely decide whether the Beattie signing was worth it?

If he just helps us finishing 7th, rather than 11th, it will be a little less disappointing, but it does imply that we'll have around 300k less to spend on next season's squad.
 
Did anyone see that Clint Eastwood film 'The Gauntlet'? One of the worst films he ever made.

Aye, bloody Sondra Locke. However, 1hr 44mins 44secs in, there's Nick Frost! If he weren't just five years old at the time, I'd have sworn it was him.
 



Actually it would just be 2 pints, because I would have to buy you one for BT being in the team and winning. But what are the chances of BT actually laying the ball off (or Creswell or Poreter scoring for that matter) when he could shoot?!

Nope, the orignal terms were:

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins - Ollie owes me a pint

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score - I owe Olle 3 pints
- BT plays a game and does not score - I owe Olle 1 pint
- BT plays a game and we do not win

(3+1)-1 = 3.
 
Nope, the orignal terms were:

For each of the following, during the Beattie’s spell, Olle will buy someone a pint:
- James Beattie scores
- James Beattie plays and the team wins - Ollie owes me a pint

But when each of these happen, the opponent has to buy Olle a beer:
- BT misses a game through injury
- BT does not play and the team wins
- Evans, Cresswell or Porter score - I owe Olle 3 pints
- BT plays a game and does not score - I owe Olle 1 pint
- BT plays a game and we do not win

(3+1)-1 = 3.

But it has been revised mucker. We'd be even on my more generous offer.

Have to say the Beattie signing is going well so far. Didn't he look great in that cream sweater on Saturday. Wasn't it great to see him and Wilson laughing and joking on the touchline (on the football league show). Certainly worth the 10k or so that he will be taking off us this week. Not to mention any signing on fee that his pesky agent will no doubt have pushed for. Never mind that he will not be fit for a few weeks and therefore is likely to feature little until well into December. Maybe he'll get a run out against Rochdale, at which point he should have accrued 40k or so off United for bugger. Mind you, there are plenty more in that category. Great that we snapped him up though, even if he is nowhere near match fitness and 'risks picking up an injury if he plays'. Top banana.

I see that noone has the guts to put their money where their mouth is. No one is willing to back their hero: the talisman. Probably a good job, as they would be a 2 pints down already!?
 
But it has been revised mucker. We'd be even on my more generous offer.

Have to say the Beattie signing is going well so far. Didn't he look great in that cream sweater on Saturday. Wasn't it great to see him and Wilson laughing and joking on the touchline (on the football league show). Certainly worth the 10k or so that he will be taking off us this week. Not to mention any signing on fee that his pesky agent will no doubt have pushed for. Never mind that he will not be fit for a few weeks and therefore is likely to feature little until well into December. Maybe he'll get a run out against Rochdale, at which point he should have accrued 40k or so off United for bugger. Mind you, there are plenty more in that category. Great that we snapped him up though, even if he is nowhere near match fitness and 'risks picking up an injury if he plays'. Top banana.

I see that noone has the guts to put their money where their mouth is. No one is willing to back their hero: the talisman. Probably a good job, as they would be a 2 pints down already!?

Olle,

Please please please please please....

GET OVER YOURSELF

I really don't think now is the time for "I told you so's".
 
But it has been revised mucker. We'd be even on my more generous offer.

Have to say the Beattie signing is going well so far. Didn't he look great in that cream sweater on Saturday. Wasn't it great to see him and Wilson laughing and joking on the touchline (on the football league show). Certainly worth the 10k or so that he will be taking off us this week. Not to mention any signing on fee that his pesky agent will no doubt have pushed for. Never mind that he will not be fit for a few weeks and therefore is likely to feature little until well into December. Maybe he'll get a run out against Rochdale, at which point he should have accrued 40k or so off United for bugger. Mind you, there are plenty more in that category. Great that we snapped him up though, even if he is nowhere near match fitness and 'risks picking up an injury if he plays'. Top banana.

I see that noone has the guts to put their money where their mouth is. No one is willing to back their hero: the talisman. Probably a good job, as they would be a 2 pints down already!?

1. How do you know how much JB is being paid?
2. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is on the Beattie v Porter challenge, given that Beattie is likely to be challenging for Porter's place.
 
1. Pure and utter speculation Dazzler. However, I am clearly edging on the side of caution with this. There's a very good chance that he is one of the top earners at the club.
2. Because I am not an idiot. Under few cirucmstances can I condone Porter being in the team, never mind financially backing him.

And B.Lade. Have a lie down mate. Or maybe don't go on a forum if you don't want to hear other people's opinions.
 
So you are not taking the bet because you are not an idiot.
Those who are happy at Beattie's signings are idiots.
They have a chance to redeem themselves and show they are not idiots by accepting a bet which it would be idiotic to accept.

I'm just not smart enough for this...
 
Nope. If Beattie stays fit and scores goals then I will be seriously out of pocket. This is what the bet is about. I've been saying that BT is lazy, an individual player and his fitness/injury record is questionable. I got slated for it. So hence I asked the slaters to put their money where their mouth is. I never once said that Porter was better than BT. IMO BT on the treatment table will be as effective as Porter. Hence that bet is irrelevant. I can't see what the fuss is to be honest. If you think that BT is the best striker to play at the Lane since Deane, is a talisman and la de da then this is the bet for you. If you think it is a win-win situation, but you're not that sure, then don't bet (and maybe not comment or even read this thread). Many were happy to challenge me before, but they have gone very quiet now.
 
1. Pure and utter speculation Dazzler. However, I am clearly edging on the side of caution with this. There's a very good chance that he is one of the top earners at the club.

Pure and utter speculation Ollie.

What concerns me the most is we have a supposed "Blade" here hoping that one of our players turns out to be a failure for us. And hoping to profit out of that failure. Every time you post it's like one of those burps you get in the afternoon that taste of bacon, having had a bacon sandwich for breakfast.

Oh, and there's a reason that nobody is taking you up on your generous offer. Nobody knows how a player is going to do. It could work out, it could go wrong. If it goes well, then it's no surprise. If it goes wrong (and there are many reasons for it going wrong beyond your "lazy, fat etc yawn etc") and people have vocally backed him to be a nailed-on hit then it could end up making them look foolish. Most people care about not looking like a fool. You, however, don't seem to mind...
 
1. Pure and utter speculation Dazzler. However, I am clearly edging on the side of caution with this. There's a very good chance that he is one of the top earners at the club.
2. Because I am not an idiot. Under few cirucmstances can I condone Porter being in the team, never mind financially backing him.

And B.Lade. Have a lie down mate. Or maybe don't go on a forum if you don't want to hear other people's opinions.

I do.


What I like is reasoned and sensible debate. Not, nah nah nah nah nah, told you so look at me type rubbish which is what this thread is to be honest.
I actually have time for your opinion Olle, after the shed stuff faded you started making salient well thought out points, but this is just rubbish. Why can't people think Beattie is a good signing? If they do think that why should they have to back it up by taking you up on a lop-sided bet?

And again, I say, what did you expect from Beattie's signing? I expected what we're getting so far, a slow introduction, prob culminating in a half dozen appearences at best (depending on when his loan expires) then he'll sod off to Southampton or A N Other Championship team.
As for how much we're paying him. I'd suspect he isn't one of the top earners at the club. I'd suspect he's on more than the new crowd, but rather less than some of the older pro's on historically high contracts.

My impression is we've gone into this with our eyes wide open, and in fact it's probably not dissimilar (spelt?) to the Donny approach. We pay him less than (he considers) his market worth. He gets to showcase his talents, and if he does well he leaves with our best wishes.
What exactly is your problem with this?
 
1. Pure and utter speculation Dazzler. However, I am clearly edging on the side of caution with this. There's a very good chance that he is one of the top earners at the club.
2. Because I am not an idiot. Under few cirucmstances can I condone Porter being in the team, never mind financially backing him.

And B.Lade. Have a lie down mate. Or maybe don't go on a forum if you don't want to hear other people's opinions.

1. Well my speculation is that Beattie is on a relatively low wage given his recent fitness problems. Clearly, if he could cpmmand anything like £10K a week he would not be playing in the 3rd Division.
2. To repeat, if you think Beattie is an improvement on Porter and Beattie is Porter's replecement, what the fuck are you objecting to?
 
....Because I am not an idiot......

You do a bloody good impersonation of an idiot. Unless you are just helping them out when they're busy.

Either way, most of us on here are totally convinced.:D

........don't go on a forum if you don't want to hear other people's opinions.
 
Pure and utter speculation Ollie.

What concerns me the most is we have a supposed "Blade" here hoping that one of our players turns out to be a failure for us. And hoping to profit out of that failure. Every time you post it's like one of those burps you get in the afternoon that taste of bacon, having had a bacon sandwich for breakfast.

Oh, and there's a reason that nobody is taking you up on your generous offer. Nobody knows how a player is going to do. It could work out, it could go wrong. If it goes well, then it's no surprise. If it goes wrong (and there are many reasons for it going wrong beyond your "lazy, fat etc yawn etc") and people have vocally backed him to be a nailed-on hit then it could end up making them look foolish. Most people care about not looking like a fool. You, however, don't seem to mind...

Not at all Tarquin. I would love Beattie to be a success and for me to have egg on my face. How wonderful it would be for me to eat humble pie and buy your good self pints of amber nectar whilst we sit in the automatic spots!
I do.


What I like is reasoned and sensible debate. Not, nah nah nah nah nah, told you so look at me type rubbish which is what this thread is to be honest.
I actually have time for your opinion Olle, after the shed stuff faded you started making salient well thought out points, but this is just rubbish. Why can't people think Beattie is a good signing? If they do think that why should they have to back it up by taking you up on a lop-sided bet?

And again, I say, what did you expect from Beattie's signing? I expected what we're getting so far, a slow introduction, prob culminating in a half dozen appearences at best (depending on when his loan expires) then he'll sod off to Southampton or A N Other Championship team.
As for how much we're paying him. I'd suspect he isn't one of the top earners at the club. I'd suspect he's on more than the new crowd, but rather less than some of the older pro's on historically high contracts.

My impression is we've gone into this with our eyes wide open, and in fact it's probably not dissimilar (spelt?) to the Donny approach. We pay him less than (he considers) his market worth. He gets to showcase his talents, and if he does well he leaves with our best wishes.
What exactly is your problem with this?

My problem is that we are wasting valuable resources on a lazy, apathetic 33 year old. Wages that could be used elsewhere are being spent on a has (or never) been that has a shocking recent injury record and is not fit enough to play. Even on top form this guy had a detrimental effect on the team and players around him. Now, after a few years without a goal, he is being haled as the saviour. The guy to fire us up. Don't buy it at all.

1. Well my speculation is that Beattie is on a relatively low wage given his recent fitness problems. Clearly, if he could cpmmand anything like £10K a week he would not be playing in the 3rd Division.
2. To repeat, if you think Beattie is an improvement on Porter and Beattie is Porter's replecement, what the fuck are you objecting to?

Oh contraire Darren.
1. Stephen Quinn, Steve Simmon, Nick Montgomery and Ched Evans might tell you different. Would you really expect Beattie (more than 35k for most of his career) and his agent to have accepted a salary of less than 10k a week. Oh yes, he just wants to play football. Did you know he used to wear his SUFC shin pads whilst playing at Stoke?!
2. I am objecting to Beattie being lauded as a talisman, leader, great team player and best striker at the Lane since Deane. I think he is over rated, lazy and apathetic.
Oh and easy on the language. Sure fire way to show that you are losing an argument.
You remind me of richard Dawkins quite a lot when you argue/debate. Clearly a very inteligent individual, but someone who struggles to articulate themselves and then undoes all the good work by getting extremely frustrated when others cannot see their point.
 



Not at all Tarquin. I would love Beattie to be a success and for me to have egg on my face. How wonderful it would be for me to eat humble pie and buy your good self pints of amber nectar whilst we sit in the automatic spots!


My problem is that we are wasting valuable resources on a lazy, apathetic 33 year old. Wages that could be used elsewhere are being spent on a has (or never) been that has a shocking recent injury record and is not fit enough to play. Even on top form this guy had a detrimental effect on the team and players around him. Now, after a few years without a goal, he is being haled as the saviour. The guy to fire us up. Don't buy it at all.



Oh contraire Darren.
1. Stephen Quinn, Steve Simmon, Nick Montgomery and Ched Evans might tell you different. Would you really expect Beattie (more than 35k for most of his career) and his agent to have accepted a salary of less than 10k a week. Oh yes, he just wants to play football. Did you know he used to wear his SUFC shin pads whilst playing at Stoke?!
2. I am objecting to Beattie being lauded as a talisman, leader, great team player and best striker at the Lane since Deane. I think he is over rated, lazy and apathetic.
Oh and easy on the language. Sure fire way to show that you are losing an argument.
You remind me of richard Dawkins quite a lot when you argue/debate. Clearly a very inteligent individual, but someone who struggles to articulate themselves and then undoes all the good work by getting extremely frustrated when others cannot see their point.

Well Darren you might as well pack in your legal career altogether mate, obviously you're not up to scratch ;)

Ollie - any chance we can put this thread on the shelf for the time being? Now's not the time for infighting and bickering.
 

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