Sander Berge Haters

[Mendi]

Did ok.

 

[Barry Butlin]

He is the most comfortable player on the ball that I have seen playing for the Blades in a very long time. And if you can't see that may I politely suggest you take up painting by numbers, Train spotting or making Tick Tick Videos because football is certainly not your forte..

Yes he is comfortable on the ball and that really is it, he has a heart the size of a pea

 

[Prem owner needed]

Berge,

The fat poor owner bog roll's thorn in the side is our Berge. The player that he needs to sell due to his lack of personal wealth to finance the club much longer and in no where near the kind of form to seal a big money move, or even demand the fee that the club paid for him, let alone the sell on fees, etc.

As for the player, he has obvious qualities but not suited to English football, let alone the Championship. I feel for the lad and he needs a move to a league that he can try to get back to the potential that he had.

Good luck to him in his future career and his wages will probably get him his move that he needs.

 

[LewishamBlade]

Yeah, I’d probably be inclined to keep him in the team now. Who would you play alongside him?

Play him with Norwood. He’s undroppable at the moment. Norwood to the left, Sander on the right so he can drive and make the forward runs down the flank.

 

[sitwell]

He played well for the last 20 minutes ,I think the strangle of Ndaiye and Sharp going in wound him up ,he started trying to get the crowd going ( we were doing anyway) he seemed to up his game from there. He does hide for long periods though ,most of the first half and is nesh as nesh could be. Fair play his trademark runs in the box when they cant tackle him were very good.
At the time I was sure the ball was to Ndaiye and great opportunism from Sharp made it look brilliant ,Having watched it today on telly it was deffo for Ndaiye ,just watch Sanders eye when he plays the pass. Not that it matters we beat those blue nose wankers for the first time I can recall ,had so many shit journeys away from that stadium it was so good to come away happy.

 

[Hodgesleftpeg]

Norwood to the left, Sander on the right

“Here I am, stuck in the middle with you”….
Sorry, not a dig at Norwood or Berge, nor LewishamBlade, I couldn’t read what he had put without singing that song in my head.. I’ve had a few beers admittedly

 

[Charlieblade]

Man alive, he gets praised to the skies far too easily.

He had a good second half today - apart from the sitter he missed - and put in a very good assist for the equaliser, but his fan club continue to see things that aren't there.

For a start - and this is not his personal fault - he is deceptively slow. He does glide around like you'd expect a good player to do, but it's like three-quarter pace. This will be his problem moving forward to another team in a major league, unless someone can find a position for him on the field that suits him and I doubt that's the right side of a midfield three.

I have long admired Berge for his football skills, and I still believe that his pace is deceptive. He continues to glide past opposition players with languid ease. His height and his style leave other players in his wake and dumbfounded. It may look slow but that’s the beauty of it. He contains his real acceleration with the appearance of being slower than he is in reality. It’s a neat trick, or a gift.

Whatever, I think people often dismiss it because he makes it look so easy and natural.

I agree that in this division, he needs to work on his robust aggression, as much as his natural silky skills. . I also agree that none of the managers he has served as a blade has found the right position for him.

 

[Keen Blade]

You can tell a lot about whether someone knows much about football by whether they think Berge is rubbish or not

You can tell a lot about Fallowfield's arrogance by the superior tone in his posts.
Such a conceited twat.

 

[blade67]

Well we signed him almost bang on 2 years ago and he has been injured for about a year so I don’t think that’s a fair assessment

Again if you judge players against there price tag you will be disappointed

Maybe that’s why billy sharp is judged as Pele because there judging him against his transfer fee

I suspect most fans judge Billy Sharp on his 102 goals in 232 games over the last 7 seasons. This will be his fifth , double digit season in that time.

Sander is being judged on 41 appearences over 2 years. How many of those games has he had a significant impact on? 3? maybe 4, if we are being generous.

As many have stated, he's got a good first touch, and at times looks a real threat on the ball, but he rarely has much positive influence on the game. If he was an academy graduate who had cost nothing, we'd mostly be saying it's about time he made the step up at 23 years old.

 

[Teddy]

You wouldn’t need that much of a great internet connection to receive notifications of billy sharp scoring

6 goals in 26 from open play in the league

Do you only get notifications for goals scored from open play? None of my apps have that option…

 

[Revolution]

Do you only get notifications for goals scored from open play? None of my apps have that option…

He presumably leaves out penalties because anyone can score a penalty.

Except McBurnie, it would seem.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

I have always been curious what Wilder’s plan was for Sander when he bought him. From the outside none of our managers including Wilder seems to have had one and as a consequence he’s played all over the shop.
To a degree I had the same thoughts about Brewster. Only now prior to his injury was he getting a run in his best position.
We did seem to act a bit like a kid in a toy shop given free reign and a load of cash who buys loads of expensive toys then never plays properly with them. I guess we will never know now what the intentions were but hopefully we still have time to work this out and get the best from him.

 

[blade67]

I have always been curious what Wilder’s plan was for Sander when he bought him.

FWIW, I think Wilder identified that Norwood was always going to find the "cut and thrust" of premier league midfields a bit of a challenge. What we needed in there was a big, physical lad who can cover the ground and play a bit. Most premier league teams have one.

Sander looked like he could become one of those. He was only 21 and he's still only 23, but hasn't yet become that player. It doesn't mean he won't but with 2 1/2 years left on his contract it needs to start happening soon to be something we benefit from

 

[coolasanidiot]

Sander has played one outstanding match- 'the friendly against Donny' - thats the player we want. Other than that we have had bits and bobs. Definitely underwhelmed so far., regardless of injuries.

But I've a feeling it's just clicking with him, on Friday he was trying to impose, he was trying to drive forward, he was trying not to hide. I think this management team much more likely to get him going then Slav's crew. So I say persevere he's going to start impressing us.- he's miles better than Hourihane)

 

[Brownieblade]

I suspect most fans judge Billy Sharp on his 102 goals in 232 games over the last 7 seasons. This will be his fifth , double digit season in that time.

Sander is being judged on 41 appearences over 2 years. How many of those games has he had a significant impact on? 3? maybe 4, if we are being generous.

As many have stated, he's got a good first touch, and at times looks a real threat on the ball, but he rarely has much positive influence on the game. If he was an academy graduate who had cost nothing, we'd mostly be saying it's about time he made the step up at 23 years old.

A lot of Unitedites judged Billy as shit or not up to it his first spell with us and now are doing the same with Berge

The problem wasn’t Billy or isn’t Berge, it’s the fans and their expectations of what players should be at the time

Berge will likely move on, he likely will continue turning out for Norway, might play in a few big tournaments who knows

He might play for a top club in Europe, he might not, he might play in a middling team in a top division in Europe like German or Spain or he might end up playing in Holland or Belgium( me personally I think it will be former but who knows right now)

But he will play wherever due to his ability and not because he didn’t fit in with the Blades way or the Blades expectations because our way doesn’t really matter to anyone else

 

[sitwell]

A lot of Unitedites judged Billy as shit or not up to it his first spell with us and now are doing the same with Berge

The problem wasn’t Billy or isn’t Berge, it’s the fans and their expectations of what players should be at the time

Berge will likely move on, he likely will continue turning out for Norway, might play in a few big tournaments who knows

He might play for a top club in Europe, he might not, he might play in a middling team in a top division in Europe like German or Spain or he might end up playing in Holland or Belgium( me personally I think it will be former but who knows right now)

But he will play wherever due to his ability and not because he didn’t fit in with the Blades way or the Blades expectations because our way doesn’t really matter to anyone else

When I read this I just started saying it like this in my head

 

[alcoblade]

The problem wasn’t Billy or isn’t Berge, it’s the fans and their expectations of what players should be at the time

Berge will likely move on, he likely will continue turning out for Norway, might play in a few big tournaments who knows

He might play for a top club in Europe, he might not, he might play in a middling team in a top division in Europe like German or Spain or he might end up playing in Holland or Belgium( me personally I think it will be former but who knows right now)

But he will play wherever due to his ability and not because he didn’t fit in with the Blades way or the Blades expectations because our way doesn’t really matter to anyone else

We paid £25m for him - that does and should come with expectation.

But any case, he’s failed to became a regular so far. That’s not about expectation, it’s simply about other average division two footballers performing better than him.

 

[Brownieblade]

We paid £25m for him - that does and should come with expectation.

But any case, he’s failed to became a regular so far. That’s not about expectation, it’s simply about other average division two footballers performing better than him.

If you paid 25 million for a CB that doesn’t mean you expect him to be the next Zidane

We bought a Cdm/CM and somehow due to the price people seem to think if the lad isn’t playing like Zidane then he is a bust

 

[sitwell]

If you paid 25 million for a CB that doesn’t mean you expect him to be the next Zidane

We bought a Cdm/CM and somehow due to the price people seem to think if the lad isn’t playing like Zidane then he is a bust

We dont expect the next Zidane ,but the when he is absolutely nowhere near the next Chris Basham or Paul Coutts ,at over 20 million then questions can be asked.
Do you think he has been a success ? We have just won the first game he has started in nearly 2 years.

 

[Brownieblade]

We dont expect the next Zidane ,but the when he is absolutely nowhere near the next Chris Basham or Paul Coutts ,at over 20 million then questions can be asked.
Do you think he has been a success ? We have just won the first game he has started in nearly 2 years.

I haven’t seen him playing enough at CDM to judge him as a success, as that seems to be what he was brought in for

Why he is being asked to play out of position and yet be the pivotal focus for success I don’t know

Has he been a success filling in at other positions, probably not, but thankfully for him I’m guessing, his national manager and future employers won’t be judging him on can you play like Coutts or Monty, and that’s not a knock on either of them either

 

[sitwell]

I haven’t seen him playing enough at CDM to judge him as a success, as that seems to be what he was brought in for

Why he is being asked to play out of position and yet be the pivotal focus for success I don’t know

Has he been a success filling in at other positions, probably not, but thankfully for him I’m guessing, his national manager and future employers won’t be judging him on can you play like Coutts or Monty, and that’s not a knock on either of them either

When he has played at CDM (excuse no 395) we have been hammered , his work rate ,tackling and heading ability make him a liability there ,he doesnt even have good distribution. If anything he has to play where he can run at defence further up ,but he hasnt been anywhere near good enough to warrant shoehorning into the team.

 

[Brownieblade]

When he has played at CDM (excuse no 395) we have been hammered , his work rate ,tackling and heading ability make him a liability there ,he doesnt even have good distribution. If anything he has to play where he can run at defence further up ,but he hasnt been anywhere near good enough to warrant shoehorning into the team.

Well mate your entitled to your view of course, I’m not sure what you were taking when you came to your conclusions but fair enough

 

[guancheblade]

For me, Berge showed tonight why he should be in the team.

The lad ghosted past players today- something he has been criticised for not doing.

The lad showed some tidy bits of play and retained possession in tight spaces.

The pass to Billy, QUALITY. Again, I've seen the lad being criticised on here for not playing through balls or passes that slice open defences etc.

Ger im int team and leave him there.

Shame it weren't a pass to Billy though

 

[alcoblade]

If you paid 25 million for a CB that doesn’t mean you expect him to be the next Zidane

We bought a Cdm/CM and somehow due to the price people seem to think if the lad isn’t playing like Zidane then he is a bust

Let’s reduce the hyperbole. If you pay £25m for a player, you’d expect him to be a regular in a 2nd division team.

To not expect that would be utterly ridiculous, not the other way around.

Separately, the fact that he hasn’t commanded that place is down to him, and the managers appraisal of his performance. It’s got nothing to do with expectation.

 

[alcoblade]

Well mate your entitled to your view of course, I’m not sure what you were taking when you came to your conclusions but fair enough

The same stuff the current and previous managers were taking, presumably.

 

[Alan Birchenall's hair]

He's still slow and shite. Nice assist for 1st goal, but so was Fleck's for the 2nd goal and nobody seems to be creaming their pants about him.
And the (non) header... oh dear.....

 

[corner_flag]

I have always been curious what Wilder’s plan was for Sander when he bought him.

I don't reckon he was a Wilder pick. I think he was the owner's pick and the deal was done by someone on the board

 

[Brownieblade]

Let’s reduce the hyperbole. If you pay £25m for a player, you’d expect him to be a regular in a 2nd division team.

To not expect that would be utterly ridiculous, not the other way around.

Separately, the fact that he hasn’t commanded that place is down to him, and the managers appraisal of his performance. It’s got nothing to do with expectation.

Yes you would expect that, I mean it’s not like he wasn’t starting every game due to other issues but let’s not digress

To expect someone to dominate a position simply because of a price tag or a bunch of armchair fergies sat on Kop/South or at home/ pub is just as ridiculous IMO

If the manager doesn’t want to play him In the role he was brought in for then that’s just what it is, at some point that will come to a head for sure

 

[Brownieblade]

The same stuff the current and previous managers were taking, presumably.

Maybe the belief in having little ability and poor distribution speaks volumes about them though I’m 100% sure neither had such views , however to be fair to Slav he didn’t have him long or a healthy version

 

[alcoblade]

Yes you would expect that, I mean it’s not like he wasn’t starting every game due to other issues but let’s not digress

To expect someone to dominate a position simply because of a price tag or a bunch of armchair fergies sat on Kop/South or at home/ pub is just as ridiculous IMO

If the manager doesn’t want to play him In the role he was brought in for then that’s just what it is, at some point that will come to a head for sure

So following that through, if we spend £200m on a midfielder, we still shouldn't expect him to dominate that position?