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Anyone surprised at the views of some of our fan base? The two blokes next to me at Derby booed the taking of the knee, and we have idiots who think that non-consensual sex*is a right to be defended.
its football based but ched Evans never was. you worry for the partners of these people because they clearly think these acceptable on nights out or holidays
Yes. It was pretty moronic all around. We were 2-0 up at the time, so wasn't even part of an angry reaction.
When you say ‘partners’ do you actually mean ‘blow up sex dolls’?
Good point about Ched, but I’m struggling to come to terms with you spelling their wrong twice..
Years later, I was still reading about the young lady being so drunk, paralytic, out of it, comatose etc that she couldn't possibly give consent to sex. And yet I remember seeing her in that famous video a short while earlier in the evening, coming out of the hotel walking to the taxi and retrieving a pizza from the back of a taxi, then walking back into the hotel carrying the pizza and all the time she's doing that without falling or stumbling in any way, she's wearing 6 inch high heels! If she could manage all that without faltering, then it seems reasonable to believe that she was also able to give consent for sex.
About 10 years ago I was at an event with free booze. I absolutely hammered it and was necking wine off tables (just lost my mum so wasn't a smart idea to be drinking in the first place). My last memory was at about 11:00, by 11:30 I was 'apparently' placed on a bench outside as I had just turned a corner and I wasn't really responding to anyone, I fell off the bench and landed directly on my head. Ended up going to hospital for brain scans and woke up in the morning with tubes where they shouldn't be. Luckily I was fine, just damaged ego.
He would be a welcome addition to both.
I fully understand what you're saying but with the young lady in the "Ched saga", there's absolutely no indication at all in the video of any kind of reaction/impairment brought on by alcohol which I would have expected even at that earlier stage with the inclusion of 6 inch heels. That puts such A DOUBT in my mind (about her later inability to give consent) that I'm not sure as a juror that I would have found Ched guilty at the first trial. Or were the jurors instructed by the judge to bring in a guilty verdict?
Not interested in getting into the finer points of any specific cases, just giving you an example from my own life. One moment I was fine and having a dance with friends, 30 mins later I was unable to stand, 30 mins after that I'm on my way to the hospital as I had drunk myself to the point of being unresponsive.
Thanks for your responses which I appreciate. Yes, I do fully accept what you're saying about yourself in your personal anecdote. All I'm saying is that in the circumstances in the Ched saga, I do have reasonable doubts about the young lady's ability to give/not give consent. It's tempting to say that only the three major participants really/clearly know what happened that night but as they'd all consumed a fair amount of booze, that might be a bit optimistic. Let's face it, if the case had involved "nobodies" rather than professional footballers, would the police have been as zealous in pursuing the case? If I remember rightly, it all kicked off because a handbag was "lost", possibly stolen...
You're right of course. I seem to remember cases where a judge has directed a jury as to a guilty/not guilty verdict but I now understand the jury are under no obligation to take any notice. My mistake.
Yet he was still our top scorer
The ambulance driver wasn’t called Chedwyn was he? Was your arse sore the next day?
You don’t need to blow em up these days, come with latex skin and everything…….. I heard
Come to think of it, it was! The docs told me I'd had a Welsh probe, I thought it was a medical thing....
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