Sander berge

[Pollingtonblade]

The biggest waste of money we've ever spent, mind you he had a great game for Genk once.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Sander Berge will be a quality player with class players around him , his style of play doesn't suit the Championship or us and there is not enough quality in our team to compliment his strengths .

I used to subscribe to your theory but I can't anymore. He's been poor for too long now & doesn't seem to have the heart, or determination to succeed. Quality players should stand out at this level and he doesn't.
He gets away with a lot from our fans. He doesn't want to be here and puts zero effort in. I'd shift him on as quickly as possible.

 

[Maidenhead]

Lawrence’s first goal is such bad defending. Bogle has the chance to win it/ take him down probably a yellow card. Bash gets skinned. Egan tries to stand him up even though he’s got a shooting opportunity in the box.

Thirty seconds before that first goal I said to my mate "Basham's not right. He's either got a hamstring problem or cramps, they need to get him off"

If I could see that then surely the management could too and made a conscious decision to keep him on.

Not at all surprised when he was skinned by Lawrence.

Disappointed with Egan's attempts though.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Hopefully, a European club will come in for him

One with a scouting team made up of blind people?

 

[robbiez666]

One with a scouting team made up of blind people?

He was highly rated when we signed him. He'll still be on the radar of other clubs but now at a knockdown price.

Clubs kept buying Burke. Clubs will pay cor talent. His game is suited go a slower league.

 

[Houston_Blade]

He was highly rated when we signed him. He'll still be on the radar of other clubs but now at a knockdown price.

Clubs kept buying Burke. Clubs will pay cor talent. His game is suited go a slower league.

His game is suited to u23’s football. Slow with no physical contact. He’s been crap for 2 years yet people still insist he’s got this ‘talent’ that some of us are missing.

 

[ChrisBlade]

A few points on Sander:

Poor yesterday but he at least ambled about in the exact space that Derby ran through to score twice after he left. The shocking nature of our collapse and the ensuing anger both seem to have magnified the disappointment in him yesterday.

Fact: He had nothing to do with the two mega-soft goals conceded.

I expected way more of him. So far he is a clear disappointment. Having said that, at this moment in January 2022 he is to be viewed as a recovering player not someone fully fit and near peak (or if you wanna be negative abyss) level.

In total, I think he is better than we think but worse than we hoped. And he chose not just a risky club. But the entirely wrong country.

He thought we would be his Borussia Dortmund. A stepping stone club where playing was guaranteed and he could shine in one of Europe’s top leagues.

Looking at him, he misread his own style badly. Where is that English team that plays “with quality players” but not at breakneck pace that also forces you to battle?

At a push, Norwich in the Championship.

As a player, he is not (yet, he may never be) at Prem or La Liga intensity or skill. He needed to follow Haaland into the Bundesliga.

It IS a slightly lower level, but very conducive to footballing development. They play like he needs to. Slower, less intense, but with brains and movement around him. The pin ball nature of the Championship does not make it easier for him. He needs patterns and lines, not bobbles and rabid dogs.

He needed to move to Bayer Leverkusen or Gladbach in Germany, fringe CL there. That would have ensured smooth progression from Genk and would have allowed everyone to see his further ceiling or how high it could be pushed.

We set him back two or three years minimum. And it looked such an exciting win win scenario at the time. Great manager, lovely set up on the up. Total unity with fans in all key positions. He was wanted and loved. Team on the verge of European qualification, what could possibly go wrong?

That incredible turn around is our trauma as much as his. As it stands, a cotton corona mask with his silhouette as Sander the Redeemer is probably the best summary of his monumentally sad time at this club. Something you may find on the curb and pick up to hang it up in ten years because then it will make you smile.

Considering players read this stuff, we should all try to remember these types of personal and overall contexts before making our snipes too bitter, too personal or too absolute.

PS: Last year I was occasionally accused of being Chris Wilder. I am not and wasn’t then. Equally, I am not Sander nor do I live rent free in his tracksuit pockets. Just a voice of temperance…

 

[Stu_Blade]

Shouldn't be first player to call poor. We're not going to win games starting a 35 year old and a 34 year old up front with no pace lol

The last point is valid about no pace however if you have pace and allow 2 strikers to take up positions in the box they should be scoring 1 in 4/5 chances between them. The problem is the lack of urgency/pace in the rest of the squad we had 8 shots with 2 on target which over 90 minutes is not good enough when you have 2 strikers that thrive on chances

 

[mattbianco1]

He is good. He will be great. And yes. You all need to get back to british crap football with kick and run. Thats all Sheff U are good at. How many failed passes did Berge have today? The rest of the feckin team can barely control a medicine ball. Your team sucks

I agree with this guy more than the OP

 

[Drunk blade]

The biggest waste of money we've ever spent, mind you he had a great game for Genk once.

Surely brewster is a bigger waste of money

 

[Revolution]

Considering players read this stuff, we should all try to remember these types of personal and overall contexts before making our snipes too bitter, too personal or too absolute.

Do they? Good.

Sander -

1. Apply yourself. Liven things up. This is not Belgium. This is a tough league with quick, tough players. You have the physical attributes. Use them.
2. The opposition don't like it when you run at them with the ball. Do more of it. It's more effective than your passing, quite frankly.
3. Coming to a dead stop mid run and passing backwards when everyone is backing off in front of you is not the best strategy for the team. Keep going more often.
4. For crying out loud, practice your heading.
5. If you really are deliberately just going through the motions (which I doubt) and if you'd really like to join another team (which wouldn't surprise me) you are going to have to buck your ideas up to get a move. Ownership wants serious money back for the PL purchases - why do you think Burke and Mousset are still here? If you want out, do more.

Yours in sport,

Revolution

 

[S64 Blade]

He either needs playing further forward or selling. The only time he’s looked good for us, since he signed has been getting into the final third. Not seen anything at all when in the more holding role.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

I doubt players do read this forum, would require a bit of effort.

 

[Silent Blade]

I doubt players do read this forum, would require a bit of effort.

Why would they read posts by "know it alls" who are/were shit at football?

 

[Varkanoid]

We know of one player who reads this forum, good ol' Bladesballer.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Why would they read posts by "know it alls" who are/were shit at football?

I'm assuming the majority on here are/were.

David Attenborough has never been a Polar Bear, doesn't stop him being an expert on them

 

[pommpey]

Got to be honest, there isn't a great deal to offset Berge's time at the club against the 'blink and you'll miss them' fleeting displays of possible ability he has. He's spent more time recovering than he has playing, and when he does play he's very, very easily overwhelmed and outplayed. I saw his audition tape on Youtube and his laid back, louche style was redolent of Tony Currie but now in red and white he is nowhere near that level of talent and capability. Currie was fearless, could work with the players around him, was physical, tough and not easy to get the ball off and would blind us all with a drop of the shoulder and a change of pace. Berge seems either shit scared of the game itself or has imposter syndrome. The game against Derby brought up similar criticisms he is nesh, slow and easily taken out of the game. That's not twenty odd million to me. And for all the prayers and chanting, he's not gonna improve, is he? We're not suddenly gonna get Michael Brown out of him. Berge should be putting oppositions on the back foot, dominating play, setting the terms in midfield, taking play up the pitch, playing swift one-twos and sending players in on goal with a sweet pass. Leeds Utds third goal yesterday v WHU kind of stuff.

To me, he's finished at Bramall Lane. Like Brewster, Burke, Mousset, McBurnie and Freeman they are failed projects. I could take it of two of those signings turned out to be horseshit, but all of them?

There's only one of Wilder's signings who has scraped enough credibility to pay half his fee and that's Bogle, and only then with creative accounting.

pommpey

 

[mattbianco1]

Not waring that, Derby we're there for the taking and are a shocking side, sadly we were worse, god knows we're we go from here!

Without a points deduction, they're 11th, 7pts off play offs.
Unbeaten in 5, winning 4 of those.

They were there for the taking though, we should have been out of sight at HT

 

[pommpey]

Without a points deduction, they're 11th, 7pts off play offs.
Unbeaten in 5, winning 4 of those.

They were there for the taking though, we should have been out of sight at HT

Derby were flailing about in the first half. Loads of unforced errors and misplaced passes. They seemed at one stage resigned to going a goal behind.

Like most clubs though once they've hit the hour mark and weathered the powderpuff attempts to even get past the halfway line by us, they just know we'll drop our guard or make a daft substitution to change the game and go for the winner and bingo ... we are losing. And they know the weaknesses and pressure points - C3PO and his disappearing confidence, Norwood and the percentage game he plays with long balls, Berge playing in slo-mo, Hourihane playing for his pension and the two wingbacks being caught up the pitch on the counter. And most of all, we never create chances on goal these days. Without MGW and Ndaiye working like a pair of velociraptors too, we have nothing to threaten and go past opposition midfields. When was the last time you saw Sheffield United completely dominate a game in the centre of the park? Peterborough at home?

pommpey

 

[MKY]

A few points on Sander:

Poor yesterday but he at least ambled about in the exact space that Derby ran through to score twice after he left. The shocking nature of our collapse and the ensuing anger both seem to have magnified the disappointment in him yesterday.

Fact: He had nothing to do with the two mega-soft goals conceded.

I expected way more of him. So far he is a clear disappointment. Having said that, at this moment in January 2022 he is to be viewed as a recovering player not someone fully fit and near peak (or if you wanna be negative abyss) level.

In total, I think he is better than we think but worse than we hoped. And he chose not just a risky club. But the entirely wrong country.

He thought we would be his Borussia Dortmund. A stepping stone club where playing was guaranteed and he could shine in one of Europe’s top leagues.

Looking at him, he misread his own style badly. Where is that English team that plays “with quality players” but not at breakneck pace that also forces you to battle?

At a push, Norwich in the Championship.

As a player, he is not (yet, he may never be) at Prem or La Liga intensity or skill. He needed to follow Haaland into the Bundesliga.

It IS a slightly lower level, but very conducive to footballing development. They play like he needs to. Slower, less intense, but with brains and movement around him. The pin ball nature of the Championship does not make it easier for him. He needs patterns and lines, not bobbles and rabid dogs.

He needed to move to Bayer Leverkusen or Gladbach in Germany, fringe CL there. That would have ensured smooth progression from Genk and would have allowed everyone to see his further ceiling or how high it could be pushed.

We set him back two or three years minimum. And it looked such an exciting win win scenario at the time. Great manager, lovely set up on the up. Total unity with fans in all key positions. He was wanted and loved. Team on the verge of European qualification, what could possibly go wrong?

That incredible turn around is our trauma as much as his. As it stands, a cotton corona mask with his silhouette as Sander the Redeemer is probably the best summary of his monumentally sad time at this club. Something you may find on the curb and pick up to hang it up in ten years because then it will make you smile.

Considering players read this stuff, we should all try to remember these types of personal and overall contexts before making our snipes too bitter, too personal or too absolute.

PS: Last year I was occasionally accused of being Chris Wilder. I am not and wasn’t then. Equally, I am not Sander nor do I live rent free in his tracksuit pockets. Just a voice of temperance…

Best post I’ve read for ages. Quality.

 

[Bell4]

A few points on Sander:

Poor yesterday but he at least ambled about in the exact space that Derby ran through to score twice after he left. The shocking nature of our collapse and the ensuing anger both seem to have magnified the disappointment in him yesterday.

Fact: He had nothing to do with the two mega-soft goals conceded.

I expected way more of him. So far he is a clear disappointment. Having said that, at this moment in January 2022 he is to be viewed as a recovering player not someone fully fit and near peak (or if you wanna be negative abyss) level.

In total, I think he is better than we think but worse than we hoped. And he chose not just a risky club. But the entirely wrong country.

He thought we would be his Borussia Dortmund. A stepping stone club where playing was guaranteed and he could shine in one of Europe’s top leagues.

Looking at him, he misread his own style badly. Where is that English team that plays “with quality players” but not at breakneck pace that also forces you to battle?

At a push, Norwich in the Championship.

As a player, he is not (yet, he may never be) at Prem or La Liga intensity or skill. He needed to follow Haaland into the Bundesliga.

It IS a slightly lower level, but very conducive to footballing development. They play like he needs to. Slower, less intense, but with brains and movement around him. The pin ball nature of the Championship does not make it easier for him. He needs patterns and lines, not bobbles and rabid dogs.

He needed to move to Bayer Leverkusen or Gladbach in Germany, fringe CL there. That would have ensured smooth progression from Genk and would have allowed everyone to see his further ceiling or how high it could be pushed.

We set him back two or three years minimum. And it looked such an exciting win win scenario at the time. Great manager, lovely set up on the up. Total unity with fans in all key positions. He was wanted and loved. Team on the verge of European qualification, what could possibly go wrong?

That incredible turn around is our trauma as much as his. As it stands, a cotton corona mask with his silhouette as Sander the Redeemer is probably the best summary of his monumentally sad time at this club. Something you may find on the curb and pick up to hang it up in ten years because then it will make you smile.

Considering players read this stuff, we should all try to remember these types of personal and overall contexts before making our snipes too bitter, too personal or too absolute.

PS: Last year I was occasionally accused of being Chris Wilder. I am not and wasn’t then. Equally, I am not Sander nor do I live rent free in his tracksuit pockets. Just a voice of temperance…

You are indeed Chris

You know you are

Can we please have our money back

 

[ChrisBlade]

You are indeed Chris

You know you are

Can we please have our money back

No. I only have 3.7 mill left. We're all feeling the pandemic squeeze, mate.

 

[Bell4]

No. I only have 3.7 mill left. We're all feeling the pandemic squeeze, mate.

Seems fair enough to me

 

[Houston_Blade]

I doubt players do read this forum, would require a bit of effort.

I bet they read Vital and think we’re all jackboot wearing Nazi’s

 

[Silent Blade]

David Attenborough has never been a Polar Bear, doesn't stop him being an expert on them

David Attenborough is an expert on Polar Bears because he does a lot of study on them and observes them a lot (same with other creatures) so he doesnt act like a "know it all" like some so called "football experts" in here who keep spouting out rubbish.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

You don't need to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.

 

[Pollingtonblade]

David Attenborough is an expert on Polar Bears because he does a lot of study on them and observes them a lot (same with other creatures) so he doesnt act like a "know it all" like some so called "football experts" in here who keep spouting out rubbish.

In your opinion its rubbish.

 

[Silent Blade]

In your opinion its rubbish.

You are right that my opinion on players, tactics, selections are always rubbish because I am not good enough to be a professional footballer

 

[Bell4]

Know i`ll get pelted but hey ho

The player i hoped and thought Sander would be for us is very similar to Declan Rice

Watched him quite a lot this season and of course in the Euros - tall , physical , glides , great passer , good runner with the ball , up and down box to box.

Al least Sander is tall

 

[Bell4]

You are right that my opinion on players, tactics, selections are always rubbish because I am not good enough to be a professional footballer

But you could still be a judge or food critic on master chef - they cant cook but know what a good steak and ale pie should taste like