It’s pathetic

[SUFC Handsworth]

We are potentially getting into a situation that could leave us in a worse position than when Wilder started. So yes he did a cracking job in the first number of years. But what happened over the last two years between infighting and rubbish recruitment could very well cripple us for the next few years.. He spouted about sustainability but his judgement on practically all transfers was terrible.

Covid hadn't have happened, last season's nightmare wouldn't have happened, simples

 

[Nagima]

Covid hadn't have happened, last season's nightmare wouldn't have happened, simples

Covid happened for every team. So why do you think we are a special case?

 

[vegleeds]

So ignore them

Why not take your own advice?

 

[Balham]

Covid happened for every team. So why do you think we are a special case?

Because it broke the link between fans and team. A side full of technically gifted players but a disjointed relationship with the fans could improve dramatically (West Ham) while a side limited in ability but full of passion and backed by a vociferous crowd lost its edge (us)

 

[Nagima]

Because it broke the link between fans and team. A side full of technically gifted players but a disjointed relationship with the fans could improve dramatically (West Ham) while a side limited in ability but full of passion and backed by a vociferous crowd lost its edge (us)

It's a bit more than that. Wilder had the players...training individually during lock down where other teams took a break to refresh. When we came back we struggled with consistency and the players were tired.
Last season was an absolute shambles from a performance perspective. But put it all down to Covid if you want. But in my view we bought poorly and we didn't move some players on.

 

[Balham]

It's a bit more than that. Wilder had the players...training individually during lock down where other teams took a break to refresh. When we came back we struggled with consistency and the players were tired.
Last season was an absolute shambles from a performance perspective. But put it all down to Covid if you want. But in my view we bought poorly and we didn't move some players on.

Part of that was Wilder's belief that we needed the entire squad to be at close to 100% of their ability in order to compete. I don't think anyone expected the restart to take 4 months and by that point we'd flogged the players into the ground.

 

[BLADE OF GRASS]

My take is that it wasn’t a case of him walking away. It was down to his relationship with the hierarchy.

How is taking us from drowning in League 1 to the Premier league, having a tough season and yet leaving us with far more money and better quality players than when he took over leaving us in a worse position?

How much money did he bring to our club with the promotions and two Premier league seasons?

Like I say if he had our best interests at heart and he didn't trust the board then why would you walk away and leave us in the lurch .In his shoes id be going knowhere and making sure this club was left in a good place and not turmoil because that is where Mr wilder has left us

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

Like I say if he had our best interests at heart and he didn't trust the board then why would you walk away and leave us in the lurch .In his shoes id be going knowhere and making sure this club was left in a good place and not turmoil because that is where Mr wilder has left us

That’s because you’re so wonderful, and Wilder isn’t fit to lick your boots.
if only that nicePrince would have appointed you instead of that nasty man Wilder.
Taking us from league 1 obscurity to 9th in the `Prem, the brink of Europe,giving us the time of our lives as Blades, playing a unique brand of football, would have meant absolutely nothing to you.
When the bad times came ,as they always do, and: you miss your first transfer targets, because the club, can’t pay the wages for Cash, Watkins,Robinson; the only players you fancy and can afford, Ramasdsle,Bogle, Lowe, Brewster, Burke, are either mis-firing, or worse pretty crap,you can’t buy a win because the `prem teams are relentless, your main man, O’Connell, gets injured, on the eve of the season, and you gamble on him getting fit again, the Chairman seeks to demote you to a coaching role, and put Van Winkle in charge of recruitment, there is no money for more signings, anyway.The pressure mounts and mounts and you decide to make a stand, maybe not your best idea, you have to start thinking about your wife n kids future.You’d have taken all that in your stride, wouldn’t you, because you are so much the bigger Blade.
Good for you.Us mere mortals, may have a bit more understanding, for a bloke who in the intense heat of a battle, made mistakes.`None of us know how we would react, to certain pressure circumstances, until they are there.
He gave us a time, when Wednesday were green with envy, and shit themselves, every time we played em,we all sang from the same hymn sheet, had 2 open top bus rides to the City Hall, became a lot of people’s second team, saw some of the best players in the World at the Lane, and beat em, sometimes, and had countless days of pure joy and pride.He deserved,and earned his right to make mistakes on transfers. The sky money and parachute payments, which we wouldn’t have got without him, more than cover the loss on transfers.`Good luck at `Boro Chris, except of course when you play the Blades, and thanks for the good times, they far outweigh the bad ones.

 

[Now and again]

That’s because you’re so wonderful, and Wilder isn’t fit to lick your boots.
if only that nicePrince would have appointed you instead of that nasty man Wilder.
Taking us from league 1 obscurity to 9th in the `Prem, the brink of Europe,giving us the time of our lives as Blades, playing a unique brand of football, would have meant absolutely nothing to you.
When the bad times came ,as they always do, and: you miss your first transfer targets, because the club, can’t pay the wages for Cash, Watkins,Robinson; the only players you fancy and can afford, Ramasdsle,Bogle, Lowe, Brewster, Burke, are either mis-firing, or worse pretty crap,you can’t buy a win because the `prem teams are relentless, your main man, O’Connell, gets injured, on the eve of the season, and you gamble on him getting fit again, the Chairman seeks to demote you to a coaching role, and put Van Winkle in charge of recruitment, there is no money for more signings, anyway.The pressure mounts and mounts and you decide to make a stand, maybe not your best idea, you have to start thinking about your wife n kids future.You’d have taken all that in your stride, wouldn’t you, because you are so much the bigger Blade.
Good for you.Us mere mortals, may have a bit more understanding, for a bloke who in the intense heat of a battle, made mistakes.`None of us know how we would react, to certain pressure circumstances, until they are there.
He gave us a time, when Wednesday were green with envy, and shit themselves, every time we played em,we all sang from the same hymn sheet, had 2 open top bus rides to the City Hall, became a lot of people’s second team, saw some of the best players in the World at the Lane, and beat em, sometimes, and had countless days of pure joy and pride.He deserved,and earned his right to make mistakes on transfers. The sky money and parachute payments, which we wouldn’t have got without him, more than cover the loss on transfers.`Good luck at `Boro Chris, except of course when you play the Blades, and thanks for the good times, they far outweigh the bad ones.

Well put pal.

UTB

 

[Now and again]

Why not take your own advice?

Why not take your own advice?

??

 

[west_yorks_blade]

That’s because you’re so wonderful, and Wilder isn’t fit to lick your boots.
if only that nicePrince would have appointed you instead of that nasty man Wilder.
Taking us from league 1 obscurity to 9th in the `Prem, the brink of Europe,giving us the time of our lives as Blades, playing a unique brand of football, would have meant absolutely nothing to you.
When the bad times came ,as they always do, and: you miss your first transfer targets, because the club, can’t pay the wages for Cash, Watkins,Robinson; the only players you fancy and can afford, Ramasdsle,Bogle, Lowe, Brewster, Burke, are either mis-firing, or worse pretty crap,you can’t buy a win because the `prem teams are relentless, your main man, O’Connell, gets injured, on the eve of the season, and you gamble on him getting fit again, the Chairman seeks to demote you to a coaching role, and put Van Winkle in charge of recruitment, there is no money for more signings, anyway.The pressure mounts and mounts and you decide to make a stand, maybe not your best idea, you have to start thinking about your wife n kids future.You’d have taken all that in your stride, wouldn’t you, because you are so much the bigger Blade.
Good for you.Us mere mortals, may have a bit more understanding, for a bloke who in the intense heat of a battle, made mistakes.`None of us know how we would react, to certain pressure circumstances, until they are there.
He gave us a time, when Wednesday were green with envy, and shit themselves, every time we played em,we all sang from the same hymn sheet, had 2 open top bus rides to the City Hall, became a lot of people’s second team, saw some of the best players in the World at the Lane, and beat em, sometimes, and had countless days of pure joy and pride.He deserved,and earned his right to make mistakes on transfers. The sky money and parachute payments, which we wouldn’t have got without him, more than cover the loss on transfers.`Good luck at `Boro Chris, except of course when you play the Blades, and thanks for the good times, they far outweigh the bad ones.

A great reminder of the circumstances given the current airbrushing of history.

 

[Woodward's Currie]

FFS Chris wilder here, Chris Wilder there, Chris Wilder Bloody everywhere are we such a boring brainless fan base that we cant talk about anything else. He is now part of our history, he moved on, so Whether your pro Wilder or anti Wilder get over it and move on! We got far more important things to discuss. I don't know about any of you but I support SHEFFIELD UTD NOT Chris Wilder FC.

 

[MJM]

Getting toxic on here...

 

[Balham]

That’s because you’re so wonderful, and Wilder isn’t fit to lick your boots.
if only that nice Prince would have appointed you instead of that nasty man Wilder.
Taking us from league 1 obscurity to 9th in the `Prem, the brink of Europe,giving us the time of our lives as Blades, playing a unique brand of football, would have meant absolutely nothing to you.
When the bad times came ,as they always do, and: you miss your first transfer targets, because the club, can’t pay the wages for Cash, Watkins,Robinson;

Our wage structure wouldn't let us compete with any of them. Would you have sanctioned £60k per week on a left back (Robinson) who would have started as a backup to Stevens? Cash is, I think, a Villa fan while Watkins was way out of our price range at £28m and was only ever going to pick working with Dean Smith again.

the only players you fancy and can afford, Ramdale, Bogle, Lowe, Brewster, Burke, are either mis-firing, or worse pretty crap,

Why were they the only players Wilder fancied? Why did we limit our search to the English league?

you can’t buy a win because the `prem teams are relentless, your main man, O’Connell, gets injured, on the eve of the season, and you gamble on him getting fit again,

O'Connell got injured at the end of the previous season and clearly wasn't right. Anyone with any sense would have prioritised signing a back up.

the Chairman seeks to demote you to a coaching role, and put Van Winkle in charge of recruitment, there is no money for more signings, anyway.

Because the moneh had all been 'spunked' on substandard players in the summer

The pressure mounts and mounts

As we made the worst ever start to a Premier League season, not winning until INTO THE NEW YEAR

and you decide to make a stand, maybe not your best idea, you have to start thinking about your wife n kids future. You’d have taken all that in your stride, wouldn’t you, because you are so much the bigger Blade.

The stand was because Wilder was too fucking stubborn for his own good

Good for you. Us mere mortals, may have a bit more understanding, for a bloke who in the intense heat of a battle, made mistakes. None of us know how we would react, to certain pressure circumstances, until they are there.

It's a mistake until it's repeated. Then it looks careless. There were obvious tactical issues once O'Connell got injured and we lost confidence. Wilder did nothing to counteract that. Picking the wantaway John Lundstram for almost every game tells its own story.

He gave us a time, when Wednesday were green with envy, and shit themselves, every time we played em, we all sang from the same hymn sheet, had 2 open top bus rides to the City Hall, became a lot of people’s second team, saw some of the best players in the World at the Lane, and beat em, sometimes, and had countless days of pure joy and pride.

Abso-fucking-lutely. What a journey that first three-and-a-half years was. Proudest time I've had as a Blade.

He deserved,and earned his right to make mistakes on transfers. The sky money and parachute payments, which we wouldn’t have got without him, more than cover the loss on transfers.

Did he? Those transfer mistakes have turned into the financial millstones which have prevented us spending any money in the Championship and therefore having a chance of getting back up.

Good luck at `Boro Chris, except of course when you play the Blades, and thanks for the good times, they far outweigh the bad ones.

Absolutely agree.

A great airbrushing of history given the current circumstances.

Fixed it for you.

 

[blade too long]

On the bright sife Wilder will get Gibson to buy Brewster McBurnie and Burke

 

[Hblockblade]

Wilder gon end this book. In slav we trust

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

Our wage structure wouldn't let us compete with any of them. Would you have sanctioned £60k per week on a left back (Robinson) who would have started as a backup to Stevens? Cash is, I think, a Villa fan while Watkins was way out of our price range at £28m and was only ever going to pick working with Dean Smith again.


Why were they the only players Wilder fancied? Why did we limit our search to the English league?

O'Connell got injured at the end of the previous season and clearly wasn't right. Anyone with any sense would have prioritised signing a back up.
Because the moneh had all been 'spunked' on substandard players in the summer
As we made the worst ever start to a Premier League season, not winning until INTO THE NEW YEAR The stand was because Wilder was too fucking stubborn for his own good
It's a mistake until it's repeated. Then it looks careless. There were obvious tactical issues once O'Connell got injured and we lost confidence. Wilder did nothing to counteract that. Picking the wantaway John Lundstram for almost every game tells its own story.

Abso-fucking-lutely. What a journey that first three-and-a-half years was. Proudest time I've had as a Blade.

Did he? Those transfer mistakes have turned into the financial millstones which have prevented us spending any money in the Championship and therefore having a chance of getting back up.

Absolutely agree.


Fixed it for you.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing my friend.
Unlike you, in your analysis,Wilder, was operating in real time, in a pressure cooker, and admittedly, made mistakes, that perhaps he wouldn’t have done,with the benefit of looking at it, from an armchair over a year later.I don’t recall you complaining at the time, or anyone else for that matter about the points you raise now.
Glad you’ve acknowledged he was responsible for the proudest time you’ve ever had as a Blade.Me too.
If Slav, who has inherited much better players than Wilder did, back in league 1, both in terms of transferable value and quality, gives us half the sheer joy and success Chris achieved,and gets us back to the Prem, he’ll deserve our respect and more. Even if he makes some pretty poor transfer decisions, after getting us there,like Fulham did,when he was there,and then disappears back to Saudi for some riyal, he’ll get the same respect and credit from me, as Wilder does Now.
Seems a long way off, but it’s the hope, certainly not the glory, that makes us all Blades, and why the few glory years we have had,should be cherished and never forgotten.Hopefully we can agree on that at least. Up the Blades.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

On the bright sife Wilder will get Gibson to buy Brewster McBurnie and Burke

Why would he?
He bought them because they looked like good players at the budgetary level he was able to spend at, proven to score at championship level with a good chance of kicking on in the PL. That was the pond we were forced to fish in. And the vast majority of us were happy to have bought them at that time too.

Given the fact that they didn’t live up to that potential I would imagine that he feels let down by them. Indeed if they had banged in the goals, he would likely still be in charge of the club he loves.

So I expect they will be at the bottom of his shopping list.

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

In

On the bright sife Wilder will get Gibson to buy Brewster McBurnie and Burke

In our dreams. Why would he want to make the same mistake twice?

 

[SouthportBlade]

Again, who were the players available that wanted to come and play for us on the wages we could afford.

And in terms of the foreign market we were a club that had just made it to the Premier League. Whoever we looked to bring in were going to be either a young player with potential or a player coming to the end of his career looking for a pay day.

I would love to know who these mythical players were who wanted to come to Sheffield and play for us?????

I'm not going to tell you who, as I've no idea how the world of football transfers work, nor am i that clued up on the abilities of most footballers.

Just to flip this line of argument on its head, as it feels a flakey defense of Wilders transfer dealings...

Freeman
C Robinson
J Robinson
McBurnie
Brewster
Lowe
Bogle
Burke
Mousset etc etc

Do you really believe that the above were the best available? That those players above were the best (and realistic) options available, even with our budgetary constraints? I just don't buy that. Regardless of the smaller pool of players available - to suggest our recruitment was anything but a fucking shambles feels wide of the mark

 

[Balham]

Hindsight is a wonderful thing my friend.
Unlike you, in your analysis,Wilder, was operating in real time, in a pressure cooker, and admittedly, made mistakes, that perhaps he wouldn’t have done,with the benefit of looking at it, from an armchair over a year later.I don’t recall you complaining at the time, or anyone else for that matter about the points you raise now.

I was questioning the tactics from Leicester away in 2019/20. That's my biggest bugbear with Wilder - I can accept transfers not working out but the refusal to alter our approach when it was clear that it wasn't working was, to me, unacceptable. "Nothing wrong with the system". "Playstation managers". No, fans who take an interest in the tactical side of the game and who are concerned by what they're seeing.

Glad you’ve acknowledged he was responsible for the proudest time you’ve ever had as a Blade.Me too.
If Slav, who has inherited much better players than Wilder did, back in league 1, both in terms of transferable value and quality, gives us half the sheer joy and success Chris achieved,and gets us back to the Prem, he’ll deserve our respect and more. Even if he makes some pretty poor transfer decisions, after getting us there,like Fulham did,when he was there,and then disappears back to Saudi for some riyal, he’ll get the same respect and credit from me, as Wilder does Now.
Seems a long way off, but it’s the hope, certainly not the glory, that makes us all Blades, and why the few glory years we have had,should be cherished and never forgotten.Hopefully we can agree on that at least. Up the Blades.

UTB.

 

[blade too long]

In

In our dreams. Why would he want to make the same mistake twice?

Why would he?
He bought them because they looked like good players at the budgetary level he was able to spend at, proven to score at championship level with a good chance of kicking on in the PL. That was the pond we were forced to fish in. And the vast majority of us were happy to have bought them at that time too.

Given the fact that they didn’t live up to that potential I would imagine that he feels let down by them. Indeed if they had banged in the goals, he would likely still be in charge of the club he loves.

So I expect they will be at the bottom of his shopping list.

I think it was more than a little tongue in cheek comment with a tad of irony

 

[Eyeball]

Part of that was Wilder's belief that we needed the entire squad to be at close to 100% of their ability in order to compete. I don't think anyone expected the restart to take 4 months and by that point we'd flogged the players into the ground.

Personally I think the players were already showing signs of being flogged into the ground before the lockdown
As was wilder too
They were all knackered

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Plane landing at the old Sheffield Airport

“Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for flying with Shiteair today, we will be landing in Sheffield very soon, please set your watches back one hundred years”.

 

[MagnifiqueShorehamStreet]

I'm not going to tell you who, as I've no idea how the world of football transfers work, nor am i that clued up on the abilities of most footballers.

Just to flip this line of argument on its head, as it feels a flakey defense of Wilders transfer dealings...

Freeman
C Robinson
J Robinson
McBurnie
Brewster
Lowe
Bogle
Burke
Mousset etc etc

Do you really believe that the above were the best available? That those players above were the best (and realistic) options available, even with our budgetary constraints? I just don't buy that. Regardless of the smaller pool of players available - to suggest our recruitment was anything but a fucking shambles feels wide of the mark

If you read what I said,I say pretty crap recruitment, mistakes on recruitment,etc. and I was only talking about his summer window, in 2020/21 season.
In your list,there are players, recruited earlier eg Freeman,Moose, Mcburnie.
When Moose and Mcburnie were banging them in, in the previous season and helping to get us to 5th in the prem, before the lockdown, I suspect you weren’t labelling them a shambles then.
A hindsight perspective gives you 20/20 vision, but you don’t get that when you’re managing In real time.
Also,I see you omit the long list of successes, of players brought in a frees, and very little money that took us to the Prem, and nearly to Europe.Egan, Norwood, Fleck etc.They’re not playing well now, but don’t forget how fantastic snd instrumental they were in getting us to the Prem.A little balance here, is required.All his signings weren’t a shambles, as you say, and many of them were excellent.We wouldn’t have got there, if they weren’t.
He made some howlers in his last season I agree, Brewster in particular, but all I’m asking for is a bit of balance, and perspective, in your analysis.In getting us to the Prem, he opened up a warchest of Sky money, that we wouldn’t have got without him.And yes, sadly,Ramsdale excepted, not mentioned by you, but whom we will make a large profit on, when the extra payments are realised, he made some big mistakes.Not excusing those, but overall he gave us one hell of a journey.

 

[blade too long]

Mate every other team had to cope with COVID too, and our performances had been slipping a bit before lockdown. The pause was an opportunity to re set and consider something new.

To lose both Henderson and O Connell was what did for us
I'm convinced that of the 20 1 goal defeats we could have had another 15 to 18 points with a solid defence

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

I think it was more than a little tongue in cheek comment with a tad of irony

Which explains why it passed me by.

 

[true99blade]

There’s a very minuscule minority who are obsessed and want him back, nothing to go mental over. But it’s obvious most of the cases on here are those incapable of letting go any of his faults and are completely dismissive of the fact he left us in a far, far better position than when he joined us. Although the hierarchy here aren’t doing a bad job getting us back to the level when he took over.

 

[Bell4]

Gav - why do you end quite a lot to posts with a fist emoji ?

Sincere question as i find a lot of your posts aggressive and provocative

Just asking

 

[Now and again]

Gav - why do you end quite a lot to posts with a fist emoji ?

Sincere question as i find a lot of your posts aggressive and provocative

Just asking

It’s a fist pump buddy. It’s a fist pump emoji my pal.

I hope that clears it up. Please don’t be afraid.