CONFIRMED Ben Davies signs on loan

[ancientblade]

I had the same initial reaction.
But then I thought “is £1m really eye watering?”
Don’t get me wrong, I dare say for me & thee it’s life changing.
But in footy these days, we’ve got access to a young player with great potential in a very critical season for us in a position we need cover - for just £1m.
Modern footy eh.

yes seems to be the modern way of loan transfers these days but if by chance he helps get us back up to the premier league the 1m plus bonus will have been good value

 

[FriethBlade]

This million pound loan fee thats being chucked about without the option to buy seems a bit steep. Or am I living in the past and loan fees are this eye watering now?

It's nothing really. Imagine if we signed him, for the sake of argument he'd probably cost around 5m We might put him on a 3 or 4yr contract which is over 1m a year. So you could argue the loan fee is cheap although of course there's no sell on fee.

 

[robbiez666]

If it's a £1 million loan fee that's great business
If it's a £1 million loan fee plus wages that's great business as long as we expect a fully firing JOC back next season.

 

[Balham]

This million pound loan fee thats being chucked about without the option to buy seems a bit steep. Or am I living in the past and loan fees are this eye watering now?

Same impact as buying him for £5m on a five year deal. It's not that bad, really.

 

[finlaytheblade]

If it's a £1 million loan fee that's great business
If it's a £1 million loan fee plus wages that's great business as long as we expect a fully firing JOC back next season.

Where do these figures come from 1 million + his wages is not cheap if he,'s on 60 k a week.
He maybe under contract at pool but never got any game time,I think it's a good loan but! Not cheap if these figures are right

 

[mattbianco1]

1 million + his wages is not cheap if he,'s on 60 k a week

9 months = ~36weeks.

£60K x 36 weeks = £2.16m

If we get promoted £3m is a drop in the ocean

 

[Bladesman]

9 months = ~36weeks.

£60K x 36 weeks = £2.16m

If we get promoted £3m is a drop in the ocean

We will be paying half wages I reckon. So that would mean what we pay him is in line with what our players currently get.

 

[mattbianco1]

We will be paying half wages I reckon. So that would mean what we pay him is in line with what our players currently get.

Even better, so ~£1.08m in wages + £1m fee

Can't believe people would grumble at that for a £10-£15m CB

 

[Bladeloyal]

If the Liverpool negotiator is as good as people think ,a guy signed from Preston into Liverpool stiffs won't be on anywhere near 60k ,

 

[Bladesman]

Even better, so ~£1.08m in wages + £1m fee

Can't believe people would grumble at that for a £10-£15m CB

I think it is rare that a club getting a loan player offers to pay 100% of the wages. If you are going to do that you would rather sign a player permanently or have the option to buy.

Getting Davies in on loan for a season for around £2million is a bit of a steal. I'd like to have the option to buy him if we got promoted though.

 

[LJBlade]

If the Liverpool negotiator is as good as people think ,a guy signed from Preston into Liverpool stiffs won't be on anywhere near 60k ,

He signed for Liverpool when they were desperate for defensive cover. He also signed at a time when his contract situation at Preston meant it would be a lot less expensive for Liverpool to sign him. He knew full well that his chances of playing and progressing his career at Liverpool were extremely slim and therefore he would have wanted compensating for potentially ruining his career, or at least setting it back several paces. I see no reason, given the circumstances, why £60k a week would’ve been a completely ridiculous salary. I think Liverpool would’ve been more than happy to pay him that as he’ll still be one of their lowest paid players.

 

[Blade58]

Anyone spotted the dynamic duo down at the training ground?

It's time they were in the building

Tough, tough, game Wednesday night. We need all the help we can get

 

[Bladesman]

Anyone spotted the dynamic duo down at the training ground?

It's time they were in the building

Tough, tough, game Wednesday night. We need all the help we can get

Wilder and Knill? Not sure they can play much these days.

 

[CaptainMorgans]

If it's a £1 million loan fee that's great business
If it's a £1 million loan fee plus wages that's great business as long as we expect a fully firing JOC back next season.

Same impact as buying him for £5m on a five year deal. It's not that bad, really.

I get where you're coming from. Although, in the scenario you describe, you would at least own the asset and therefore be investing in the re-sale value (like a mortgage).

We're very much renting Ben Davies from Liverpool. If he performs well for us they can sell him on for £5-10m. Its win-win for them and exactly why they didn't include the "option to buy" clause.

I'm happy with the deal though.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[S64 Blade]

Presumably one of our fans there, that can't spell the name of the ground or highest profile signing ever, properly.

 

[Bladesman]

Presumably one of our fans there, that can't spell the name of the ground or highest profile signing ever, properly.

He watches Edna Stephens at brammal lane every week mate.

 

[S64 Blade]

He watches Edna Stephens at brammal lane every week mate.

Is he old enough to remember Peter Unlove though?

 

[MobileBlade]

Is he old enough to remember Peter Unlove though?

Did he ever play in the same team as Billy Sharpe?

 

[CaptainMorgans]

What's everybody's interpretation of Nixon's tweet?
Once he signs his Manchester Utd contract they'll let him out again? Not sure I get it..

 

[Lee Baxter]

What's everybody's interpretation of Nixon's tweet?
Once he signs his Manchester Utd contract they'll let him out again? Not sure I get it..

Sounds like Man U favour loaning him to us and once he signs his new deal they'll sanction it. That's how I read it at least.

 

[mattbianco1]

What's everybody's interpretation of Nixon's tweet?
Once he signs his Manchester Utd contract they'll let him out again? Not sure I get it..

Yeah.

I get MUFCs stance on that one too. If they send him out on a season-long loan and loves his time at United, he can effectively walk away from Old Trafford on a free at the end of the season.

If they tie him down on a contract and he loves his time here, we have to pay a sizeable fee for a contracted player

 

[gavtheblade]

When would he have to sign so we could get him in the squad for Brom?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

What's everybody's interpretation of Nixon's tweet?
Once he signs his Manchester Utd contract they'll let him out again? Not sure I get it..

Sign a contract to protect our interest or we'll fuck up your progression by keeping you out the game a year.
If he's signs it then he's welcome to go on loan, if not then you're with the kids unless someone makes a perm offer.

 

[BrianBadonde]

I like Ben Davies. A cultured footballer, good speed and decent distribution. He'll do well for us. He does lack physicality though and by all accounts tends to get dominated in the air.

He’s great aerially. His aerial win %age last season is as good as Egan and Bash’s when they were in the championship

 

[MJM]

When would he have to sign so we could get him in the squad for Brom?

Even if he signed today, can't see him coming straight into the squad. Likely he'd get a cameo at the weekend from the bench.

 

[Toronto Blade fan]

Even if he signed today, can't see him coming straight into the squad. Likely he'd get a cameo at the weekend from the bench.

I would easily take a Ben Davies who hasn't played in a year over Robinson

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Grizzly blade]

Why is anyone taking a blind bit of notice what that bell end Nixon is saying??

It’s infuriating reading comments that “Nixon says”…..he’s knows fuck all!!!! That’s more than evident with his latest on Rammers allegedly pushing for an Arsenal move when all who speak to him in person, including the lads father, have made it patently clear that isn’t the case!

It must really annoy the order of the game if clubs like ours do t bend over and take it, the truth is clearly not believable to them so they choose to make shit up instead.

 

[Bladesman]