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Sheffield United have once more excelled themselves by sacking off a man who has had less than 6 months to turn around a club who have been haemoraging money and shedding quality players on an almost monthly basis in the last 2 years.

I am appauled that anyone can consider this a great day. A man who is one of us (a Blade) is given less than 6 months and hardly a bean of money. Given a team of steaming crap with players on the treatment table his only hope of new blood into the side. His signings were poor in Doyle and Collins, but they are hardly the reason for our demise.

Micky Adams was the wrong man for the Championship but probably the right man for League One and we have binned him off. Who the hell is going to accept the ultimate poison challice in Football now.

For me, this season was already a new low. Its managed today to compound the fracture.

On the basis of tonight we have no right to demand loyalty from anyone at the club and nor should it be expected. We have knifed a decent man in the back before he even got the chance to put his own squad on the ground.

The basements of football are littered with clubs who chopped and changed managers and I cannot think of one success story that has ever come of going through 3 or 4 managers in a season.

Adams was a poor choice, Blackwell was a cheap option, Speed was a poor choice, Robson was a shockingly poor choice and one man made all these decisions yet his name still remains above the door.

Someone said recently they were ashamed to be a Blade because of another supporter. I have never been that way but I am ashamed to be a supporter of a club who treat people like this. Yes he will get a pay off, yes he won't be struggling for cash but his reputation has been put in tatters and he never got a chance really. :cry:
 

Sheffield United have once more excelled themselves by sacking off a man who has had less than 6 months to turn around a club who have been haemoraging money and shedding quality players on an almost monthly basis in the last 2 years.

I am appauled that anyone can consider this a great day. A man who is one of us (a Blade) is given less than 6 months and hardly a bean of money. Given a team of steaming crap with players on the treatment table his only hope of new blood into the side. His signings were poor in Doyle and Collins, but they are hardly the reason for our demise.

Micky Adams was the wrong man for the Championship but probably the right man for League One and we have binned him off. Who the hell is going to accept the ultimate poison challice in Football now.

For me, this season was already a new low. Its managed today to compound the fracture.

On the basis of tonight we have no right to demand loyalty from anyone at the club and nor should it be expected. We have knifed a decent man in the back before he even got the chance to put his own squad on the ground.

The basements of football are littered with clubs who chopped and changed managers and I cannot think of one success story that has ever come of going through 3 or 4 managers in a season.

Adams was a poor choice, Blackwell was a cheap option, Speed was a poor choice, Robson was a shockingly poor choice and one man made all these decisions yet his name still remains above the door.

Someone said recently they were ashamed to be a Blade because of another supporter. I have never been that way but I am ashamed to be a supporter of a club who treat people like this. Yes he will get a pay off, yes he won't be struggling for cash but his reputation has been put in tatters and he never got a chance really. :cry:

Good post B/W - on a personal level I agree that MA has been given a very raw deal.

However, there is no room for sentiment and you have hit the nail on the head by stating that MA is the wrong man for the championship and, this being the case, I fail to see how one league of difference changes things so significantly.

I wish MA well and, unlike many, hold him only slightly responsible for our relegation.
 
Swiss, apart from stability give me one reason to give Adams next season and please don't say he knows the division
 
He's had us playing better football
He's blooded may youngsters
He knows the problems
He can rip the idiots still here a new arsehole
He can identify quickly the Ones to go (which we already know)
He was give a 3 year contract....

But most of all its stability. We've fucked it again.
 
I think this is a very poor and snap decision on the face of it.

I think this decision makes us look like a laughing stock personally, I have absolutley no faith in the people in charge at the club to make a right decision anymore.
 
He had us playing better football?
He was forced to blood the youngsters.
He might know the problems, but he certainly didn't know what to do about them.
He can't rip idiots a new arsehole or he would have done already.

I don't agree with any of your reasons apart from the blooding the youngsters (the reason he was given the job) but you can't keep a man in a job because of stability. You have to have ability and some luck. He played the wrong hand in the dressing room when he got here and never got it back.

Let's move on as you used to say. Please let's get it right this time
 
Let's move on as you used to say. Please let's get it right this time

Robson, Blackwell, Speed, (Carver if you want), Adams. Exactly what do you base your hope on that we will get things right this time? The man at the top doesn't exactly know how to pick a leader does he?
 
He had us playing better football?
He was forced to blood the youngsters.
He might know the problems, but he certainly didn't know what to do about them.
He can't rip idiots a new arsehole or he would have done already.

I don't agree with any of your reasons apart from the blooding the youngsters (the reason he was given the job) but you can't keep a man in a job because of stability. You have to have ability and some luck. He played the wrong hand in the dressing room when he got here and never got it back.

Let's move on as you used to say. Please let's get it right this time

You asked for one, I gave you 7. You don't agree, ah well let's hope that your ship em out mentality works eh!
 
Go and empty your piggy bank and you make the choices. I am not McCabe's biggest fan at the moment but at least in my opinion is doing the right thing and making early decisions. I just hope he makes the right choice now.

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You asked for one, I gave you 7. You don't agree, ah well let's hope that your ship em out mentality works eh!

Micky didn't work out.. your mentality that stability over ability is wrong and I would expect more from yourself.
 
I just hope he (McCabe) has someone in mind, because to sack a manager without a plan as to who to bring in when he could have waited (as it is the close season) seems illogical and ill thought through. I am sad it didn't work out for Micky as I, like many others, wanted him to succeed. However, it is a results business, and these have been poor throughout. I agree that he is not completely to blame, but his comments this week have only served to prove that the problems at the Lane are endemic throughout the club.

I am not sure all the players wanted to play for him, and his style of management seems has appeared negative (see Kozluk's comments). It is a sad day for the club but ultimately I am hopeful McCabe will use this opportunity to reach out to the fans and appoint a new manager to galvanise the club's fortunes.

(I did say hopeful)
 
he has been inept..blooded youngsters? i could have worked that one out when i'd run out of ideas too!! he knows the problems but cant fix em..playing better football???he bought badly, loaned badly, looked totally lost.......
 
Last summer McCabe got the timing of sacking Blackwell completely wrong (it should have been this time last year, not two games into the new season). This summer the timing is right but the decision to sack the manager is just wrong.

I thought we could have rebuilt well under Adams, now I'm seriously worried about the future of our great club. This season has been an utter shambles and at last when it has finished and we can look forward to a new season it's just took another turn for the worse.
 

How many games was he in charge for?
How many games did we win under his "leadership"?
How successful were his signings?

Correct decision to get rid of him now.
 
But most of all its stability

What stability?

Adams was there for half a season. The team he generally fielded had a goodly number of loan players, and a good number of players who we have been told we will have to get rid of as we can't afford them any more.

We've also been told that next year there will be more blooding of youth teamers, none of whom played more than a handful of games this year.

Put all these things together, add the fact that no matter what McCabe says there will be other loan players brought in (the squad is so weak it could not be otherwise) and we are a good bet to have a first XI with about 3 or 4 of this years regulars at most, some of whom Adams has spent much of the last week slagging off in the media.

You don't need stability when there's nothing to stabilise. It's a blank slate, just about. And given that Mickey Adams has proved himself utterly incapable of managing a football team or, with the exception of Vokes and Riise, understanding what a good signing would be, I'm glad someone else will be getting an opportunity.

Even if we can't dump the likes of Cresswell, Monty, Evans, Doyle and Collins, why the hell do we want someone who did such a bad job with those players last year picking them again? That's stability for the sake of it.

The only bad thing about this is Adams wasn't fired on Saturday night.

I do agree with Bladesway on one thing, which is that the buck stops higher than Adams. Things will not improve unless we fluke a good appointment (see Brearley and Bassett) or McCabe puts some money in. I do not expect either. Our future is to be a South Yorkshire version of Bradford City until McCabe goes. Let's hope we don't lose our stadium like they did.

Finally, let's hope the new manager or, even worse, some idiot director operating before we have a new manager is stupid enough to answer Kozluk's prayers in that piece and give him a new deal.
 
Sheffield United have once more excelled themselves by sacking off a man who has had less than 6 months to turn around a club who have been haemoraging money and shedding quality players on an almost monthly basis in the last 2 years.

I am appauled that anyone can consider this a great day. A man who is one of us (a Blade) is given less than 6 months and hardly a bean of money. Given a team of steaming crap with players on the treatment table his only hope of new blood into the side. His signings were poor in Doyle and Collins, but they are hardly the reason for our demise.

Micky Adams was the wrong man for the Championship but probably the right man for League One and we have binned him off. Who the hell is going to accept the ultimate poison challice in Football now.

For me, this season was already a new low. Its managed today to compound the fracture.

On the basis of tonight we have no right to demand loyalty from anyone at the club and nor should it be expected. We have knifed a decent man in the back before he even got the chance to put his own squad on the ground.

The basements of football are littered with clubs who chopped and changed managers and I cannot think of one success story that has ever come of going through 3 or 4 managers in a season.

Adams was a poor choice, Blackwell was a cheap option, Speed was a poor choice, Robson was a shockingly poor choice and one man made all these decisions yet his name still remains above the door.

Someone said recently they were ashamed to be a Blade because of another supporter. I have never been that way but I am ashamed to be a supporter of a club who treat people like this. Yes he will get a pay off, yes he won't be struggling for cash but his reputation has been put in tatters and he never got a chance really. :cry:

Never got a chance? All he had to do was win a couple of games more, nobody was asking for a miracle run. The bloke failed because he is a joke manager who thought by shouting a bit louder and by bringing in his chief clogger from about 5 years ago he would keep us up.

His reputation is in tatters by virtue of his results at BDTBL and his pathetic press conferences. I'm sure early on he would praise the players for great effort etc etc, now they are 'cheats'.

I am buzzing that we have another chance.

Good riddance Alehouse.

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I think this is a very poor and snap decision on the face of it.

Cannot comprehend how relegation and a pathetic run of results under Adams can make this a snap decision.

Who gives a toss about stability if the bloke is by most reasonable counts totally incompetent?
 
Doomed

I'm in line with everything said about Mickey's tenure at the lane - gotta agree that there's both good and bad points but I reckon things would have gotten better if McCabe had backed him for another Season in the lower tier. What's the alternative? Who's going to want to come and take over this complete shambles? Whoever it may be, it's got to be someone who will take a low salary, maybe somebody desperate who won't have the blades best interest at heart. I feel things next season are going to get a whole lot worse. The downward Spiral!!! At least with the Mickey option, we'd have somebody who wanted to do a whole lot better for club and supporters. I know it's been said already but United can't just keep swapping managers every time things don't look so good. The club needs stability. If you go with a Manager , then back him through thick and thin until it start s to work. For fucks sake, back in 89 Ferguson was nearly sacked:-

" Following this and an early season run of six defeats and two draws in eight games, a banner declaring "Three years of excuses and it's still crap. Ta ra Fergie." was displayed at Old Trafford, and many journalists and supporters called for Ferguson to be sacked. Ferguson later described December 1989 as "the darkest period he had ever suffered in the game", as United ended the decade just outside the relegation zone".

I know it's like comparing apples with oranges, but the ethic holds true. Hope I'm wrong but I can't see it. Mid table obscurity for next 2 or 3 years is the best we can hope for.

Doomed, we're fucking doomed
 
The differences being that Fergie had shown with Aberdeen that he was a quality manager; and in that quote it says "[Manchester] United ended the decade just outside the relegation zone". That refers to mid-season, not finishing the year inside the relegation zone and going down to the third tier.

Micky would have had a brief: keep United in the Championship. He failed. In any other managerial job in any other industry there would have been a post-campaign review and a contract written so as to allow the firm to break away for minimal compensation in case of failure.
 
I'm in line with everything said about Mickey's tenure at the lane - gotta agree that there's both good and bad points but I reckon things would have gotten better if McCabe had backed him for another Season in the lower tier

Why? What do you base this feeling on?

What's the alternative? Who's going to want to come and take over this complete shambles?

The alternative is someone who won't turn a bad situation into a complete and utter shambles. That's a pretty low bar.

I feel things next season are going to get a whole lot worse. The downward Spiral!!!

I agree with you, but that is to do with having no good players and no money. Save for 2 of the bad players being Adams signings, the rest can be laid at McCabe's door.

At least with the Mickey option, we'd have somebody who wanted to do a whole lot better for club and supporters.

I'm sure Adams wanted to do better than Speed, but he was completely incapable of doing so.

The club needs stability.

Freefalling inot relegation is not stability.

If you go with a Manager , then back him through thick and thin until it start s to work. For fucks sake, back in 89 Ferguson was nearly sacked:-
I know it's like comparing apples with oranges, but the ethic holds true.

This situation is nothing like what Ferguson was doing with Man Utd. If it was the same, Ferguson, having got the job when Man Utd were struggling in 1986-7, would have taken Man Utd down. You were right - apples and oranges.
 
Well I'm not a happy chap!

I honestly think he would have done us a good a job as anyone else next season in L1. He is proven at that level. It just pisses me off that the club has been ripped apart by boardroom decisions and poor old Micky, an honest man, IMHO a decent lower league manager, and a Blade of course , is being made the scapegoat.

Who the furk is going to want this poisoned chalice of a job?

If I hadn't lost faith in the club before, I certainly have now.

McCabe, your decisions are a total and utter disgrace. You do not learn from your mistakes.

WE NEED STABILITY FFS!!!! How is trying to find ANOTHER manager going to do that?
 
Feel sorry for Micky, but I'm happy he went.

Yes, we were poor when he came in, but he arguably made us worse and failed in his remit. We can talk about him being unlucky in some matches, and he was, but some of his decisions were baffling and ultimately it comes down to his signings.

And as regards 'stablility'; Micky has been at the Lane for a handful of months and with most players are going to go this Summer, there would have been little more stability had he stayed in the short term, so a new manager won't make much difference.

Mr McCabe will live or die by this next decision. We should have planned long term with the last appointment and gone for someone to change the culture at the club. We instead appointed a quick fix to motivate us to stay up which didn't work.

Now it's time to get in someone LIKE SoD who will implement a less percentage based style of play, and know how to unearth cheaper players who can actually pass the ball.
 
SoD would come to us from CHAMPIONSHIP Doncaster Rovers? You are kidding me right?

Who would want the job after we have gone through christ knows how many managers in such a short time? The only people who would come near us are either on the dole or in the lower leagues already.

As for some comments, they miss the point totally. Stability comes from keeping Managers and helping them. No one club has ever got better via 4 Managers in a season. We have become a hire em, fire em football club and its an embarrasment to us.

Finally it doesn't matter who comes in, they will have no money and no players of any quality. In short, it doesn't matter who is managing the team because the team are shit. As for unearthing players who can pass the ball, lets have a look at that in 6 months time and see what quality we get in. Bearing in mind the way we have gone through staff no one is going to want to join us. No players, no manager, no hope.

McCabe has shagged us up the arse again yet some still don't want to talk about it. They prefer talking about how Adams was shit. Who employed him in the first place FFS?
 
SoD has a job for life at donny, why would he want to come to us?

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McCabe has shagged us up the arse again yet some still don't want to talk about it. They prefer talking about how Adams was shit. Who employed him in the first place FFS?

McCabe is clearly blaming all but himself, but as you say, who employed them in the first place? Mistake after mistake, but he's not sacking himself is he?
 
SoD would come to us from CHAMPIONSHIP Doncaster Rovers? You are kidding me right?

Who would want the job after we have gone through christ knows how many managers in such a short time? The only people who would come near us are either on the dole or in the lower leagues already.

As for some comments, they miss the point totally. Stability comes from keeping Managers and helping them. No one club has ever got better via 4 Managers in a season. We have become a hire em, fire em football club and its an embarrasment to us.

Finally it doesn't matter who comes in, they will have no money and no players of any quality. In short, it doesn't matter who is managing the team because the team are shit. As for unearthing players who can pass the ball, lets have a look at that in 6 months time and see what quality we get in. Bearing in mind the way we have gone through staff no one is going to want to join us. No players, no manager, no hope.

McCabe has shagged us up the arse again yet some still don't want to talk about it. They prefer talking about how Adams was shit. Who employed him in the first place FFS?

Yet despite us being league below Donny, we still offer a better opportunity for SoD to manage in the Premier League one day.

And that is the reason why he'd drop down a league to us.
 
Yet despite us being league below Donny, we still offer a better opportunity for SoD to manage in the Premier League one day.

And that is the reason why he'd drop down a league to us.

Di Matteo can do all of this and attract players. He won't cost any compensation and he knows the divisions, albeit not for a great period of time. I think it is the right time for both sides too
 
I wouldn't say that the sacking of Adams is a disgrace, I for one think that this time the board have actually got the timing right. If they didn't want him at the club then get rid now and hopefully get a new manager in position before the play offs finish. I think sacking Adams was the wrong decision, he was getting to know the players and as others have said he knows the lower leagues, I wouldn't say he knew everything about them and do disagree with what I have read on here about all the experience he has but it would have helped.

He hasn't been scared to make the players look fools in the press and give them a kick up the arse, he has brought a few young lads through albeit too late though. I am really interested to see who replaces him but IMHO the timing was spot on. The sacking of Blackwell this season was the biggest joke and when it started to go wrong. I think Blackwell had had his time but we should have given him longer in to the season or got rid well before we did. Blackwell managed Leeds and Luton before us, he took Leeds to the play off final and then lead them to relegation (sound familiar).

Lots of names have been flying about and I hope if we are serious about getting out of this league we get someone in with a lot of experience who has the respect of the players, IMO Pemberton is not the answer.
 

Bloomin' eck you lot are depressing.
Adams had six months to turn things round...he won 4 matches brought in Doyle and (name escapes me of the other signing) and brought in Bent on loan !! Hardly inspirational.
Yes he blooded the youngsters at the end of the season but by then the writing was on the wall.
He bit off more than he could chew.Either he wasn't told what the situation was that he was inheriting or when he got here he realised it was a bigger job than he thought.Let's face it it's a huge step up from his previous job.
At least sacking him now gives the new manager a head start for next season. My only concern is that who will replace him. We haven't had a good record recently in managers.Warnock anyone?
 

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