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[Prem owner needed]

Which 8-9 of our players do you think would fit into that formation?

Interesting but as you say McBurnie isn’t a target man and comes deep so I don’t see him in the Mitrovich role unless we play it differently.
If we use McBurnie and he comes deep it would open space for the two wider players to take up that position which would be hard to track but do we have those players? I’m not so sure but I’d guess you’re thinking Burke, Brewster and maybe Dids?
Brewster isn’t a running with the ball creative type and neither is Billy. Burke would be better as a winger but is he really good enough and does Dids have the energy, pace or ability to play there? I’m not so sure especially if the other role is given to Brewster.
I’d say to just upfront you’re looking at needing to buy/loan at least one starter, probably 2, ideally 3.
JoC is unlikely to be back so would need replacing and Bash couldn’t do either role. While Egan would be fine as the deeper centre half he doesn’t have the ability to bring the ball out so I think we’re looking at maybe 2 centre halves too.
Midfield - Can Norwood play the anchor? Maybe but we know he’s not good enough ultimately so you’d need to replace him. You’d also need to buy the other two roles so it’s still a total midfield refit, but we knew that whatever we do.
So that’s probably 7 first teamers and a few more for squad positions. It’s an expensive refit. We do have the fullbacks for it though

TBH Tom,

I think that our current forward line, complete with the younger players coming through and also with an additional one, if we off load in this area, I honestly believe that we have a good mix that can be a lot more adaptable and play different roles, within alternative systems.

The midfield would be the main worry and lack of pace at the back and in wide areas, but again, with 2-3 additions, I think that we could adapt to a system such as this or other systems away from 3-5-2. But in all honesty, I don't have a problem with the 3-5-2 played under CW, providing that we get JOC back or replace him with someone that can play that role. The Duffy role would be an issue with this formation at champ level. We don't now currently have that type.

I think that Norwood would be ok within the champ and position that you have suggested.

 

[Karaoke Blade]

Interesting but as you say McBurnie isn’t a target man and comes deep so I don’t see him in the Mitrovich role unless we play it differently.
If we use McBurnie and he comes deep it would open space for the two wider players to take up that position which would be hard to track but do we have those players? I’m not so sure but I’d guess you’re thinking Burke, Brewster and maybe Dids?
Brewster isn’t a running with the ball creative type and neither is Billy. Burke would be better as a winger but is he really good enough and does Dids have the energy, pace or ability to play there? I’m not so sure especially if the other role is given to Brewster.
I’d say to just upfront you’re looking at needing to buy/loan at least one starter, probably 2, ideally 3.
JoC is unlikely to be back so would need replacing and Bash couldn’t do either role. While Egan would be fine as the deeper centre half he doesn’t have the ability to bring the ball out so I think we’re looking at maybe 2 centre halves too.
Midfield - Can Norwood play the anchor? Maybe but we know he’s not good enough ultimately so you’d need to replace him. You’d also need to buy the other two roles so it’s still a total midfield refit, but we knew that whatever we do.
So that’s probably 7 first teamers and a few more for squad positions. It’s an expensive refit. We do have the fullbacks for it though

The thought of Burke playing next season actually makes me feel sick.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Aye it isn't going to be cheap, but that was always going to be the case. I would hope SJ's reputation would put us in good stead for some quality loan signings.

Why won't JOC be back? His recovery is going alright, innit?

Internet/social media rumours have suggested he’s almost back to square one and Dane inferred he had some knowledge around this and not to expect him back next year.
This coupled with the press stories about his rehabilitation, that’s there’s no timescale for a return make me think he isn’t going to be back in August.

 

[TJB.]

Internet/social media rumours have suggested he’s almost back to square one and Dane inferred he had some knowledge around this and not to expect him back next year.
This coupled with the press stories about his rehabilitation, that’s there’s no timescale for a return make me think he isn’t going to be back in August.

I'd not seen anything about that. I sincerely hope you're wrong!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I'd not seen anything about that. I sincerely hope you're wrong!

Me too. He’s by far the most critical player we have, both in terms of this formation, organisation, defensive ability and certainly in regards to leadership.
Even if he’s looking to be back at some point next year I’d be interested in RND being tried in his role rather than just left back given the level of cover we have in that position.

 

[SouthportBlade]

Me too. He’s by far the most critical player we have, both in terms of this formation, organisation, defensive ability and certainly in regards to leadership.
Even if he’s looking to be back at some point next year I’d be interested in RND being tried in his role rather than just left back given the level of cover we have in that position.

Agree mostly (also slightly disagree)

The our 'current' system over, the infamous overlapping Centre-halves, there's probably no-one in our reach who could do nearly half the job that JOC does. The attacking prowess, the understanding with the CB, LWB and LCM was exceptional. We've seen Robinson, Bryan, Stevens and Ampadu flop trying this role

However, we ain't playing overlapping centre-halves next year. We'll have a new manager, which will mean a new way of playing.

I mean this in no disrespect to Jack, one of maybe 3 genuinely Premier League quality players in our squad.
But if we move to a standard back 3, or back 4, he becomes an excellent centre half. He'd be very tough to replace, but not irreplaceable as we've found this season in his unique role

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Agree mostly (also slightly disagree)

That’s perfectly fine, I don’t have an issue with folk disagreeing with me. It’s not a “My Take” thread.

 

[ancientblade]

That’s perfectly fine, I don’t have an issue with folk disagreeing with me. It’s not a “My Take” thread.

i think your bang on the money bob 7 new players would be my guess as well as for the mcburnie thing as you know im not a fan of his but if we keep him i think weve got to play a front 3 to get the best out of him target man with his back to goal just isnt his game and brewster might also benefit from playing in a 3 pity callum robinson isnt with us anymore he would be perfect in the championship on the left of a front 3

 

[Guesty]

Which 8-9 of our players do you think would fit into that formation?

Ramsdale would slot into that formation, no trouble.

 

[Prem owner needed]

i think your bang on the money bob 7 new players would be my guess as well as for the mcburnie thing as you know im not a fan of his but if we keep him i think weve got to play a front 3 to get the best out of him target man with his back to goal just isnt his game and brewster might also benefit from playing in a 3 pity callum robinson isnt with us anymore he would be perfect in the championship on the left of a front 3

So what you are saying is that the likes of Baldock, Bash, Egan, JOC (if fit) can only play within the CW/AK 3-5-2 formation? Have they not successfully played within another formation below the prem before?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

i think your bang on the money bob 7 new players would be my guess as well as for the mcburnie thing as you know im not a fan of his but if we keep him i think weve got to play a front 3 to get the best out of him target man with his back to goal just isnt his game and brewster might also benefit from playing in a 3 pity callum robinson isnt with us anymore he would be perfect in the championship on the left of a front 3

One formation that’s not been suggested yet could be the best amalgamation. 3-4-3 keeps the Egan and Basham. Still the possibility of RND on the left or a replacement.
The two wide players we have although it may mean Baldock is surplus if we get a bid but it’s more suited to Bogle than Furious.

We then only need two replacements in midfield, or one if Berge is retained and then whoever we’re missing upfront but Brewster, McBurnie would fit.
Lots of potential issues with that formation but if we’re wanting to patch this squad up then 3-4-3 is the only formation apart from 3-5-2 which does it with smallest amount of player turnover and cost. IF that’s really what is wanted rather than total overhaul.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

So what you are saying is that the likes of Baldock, Bash, Egan, JOC (if fit) can only play within the CW/AK 3-5-2 formation? Have they not successfully played within another formation below the prem before?

No we’re saying Bash and Egan can’t play in a two at PL level and seeing as that’s where we’re wanting to be we need to find something else. Bash would also be exposed in a 2 at Championship level.

 

[ancientblade]

So what you are saying is that the likes of Baldock, Bash, Egan, JOC (if fit) can only play within the CW/AK 3-5-2 formation? Have they not successfully played within another formation below the prem before?

as ive said on another thread i think egan will be sold joc wont be fit enough and basham has more or less had his day plus needing at least 3 more midfielders were gonna need about 7 new addidions ive had enough of this 532 formation its so negative but if we want to continue playing 3 at the back i like the 343 formation as bob suggests

 

[Scarebus]

having followed him for a long time now, I think this is Nixon's way of saying it's nailed on.

 

[Ossett Blade]

having followed him for a long time now, I think this is Nixon's way of saying it's nailed on.

Yep he's gloating. Good sign. Bit in paper

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Sometimes i get small snippets of info. It’s from a colleague that’s connected to the club. Blessin is number one choice subject to appeal but it costs the club to appeal this decision, he just said they have a few names as backup but this is their priority.

Don’t shoot the messenger, same guy that told me Wilder tried to leave in January and that we’d signed Dean Henderson a few days before we actually did. Not regular news I know but I don’t like to ask

Maybe this has changed now with journos suggesting we’ve approached Jokanovic

 

[Davalon]

having followed him for a long time now, I think this is Nixon's way of saying it's nailed on.

Not Nixon's biggest fan. Not because I think he's a knownowt but because he has no humility and will never admit to not being ITK when quite clearly he can't know everything.

However, I hope he claim a victory on this one.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Sometimes i get small snippets of info. It’s from a colleague that’s connected to the club. Blessin is number one choice subject to appeal but it costs the club to appeal this decision, he just said they have a few names as backup but this is their priority.

Don’t shoot the messenger, same guy that told me Wilder tried to leave in January and that we’d signed Dean Henderson a few days before we actually did. Not regular news I know but I don’t like to ask

Maybe this has changed now with journos suggesting we’ve approached Jokanovic

Probably moved to Jokanovic. Can't see another way of getting Blessin here

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

having followed him for a long time now, I think this is Nixon's way of saying it's nailed on.

Its his way of saying the link was real a long time ago, nothing nailed on.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Probably moved to Jokanovic. Can't see another way of getting Blessin here

He said were 100% not after Jokanovic which is strange because that seems to be the only name all the media are talking about. We'll see but no smoke without fire in my opinion and hopefully who ever they're speaking to doesn't leak to club connections.

 

[Gin&Juice]

 

[Pandev]

I think that Norwood would be ok within the champ and position that you have suggested.

Am I the only one that thinks Norwood is past it and won’t do a job next season? I think we deffo need at least 2 creative midfielders for next season, as we only have Norwood and he’s not good enough anymore.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Am I the only one that thinks Norwood is past it and won’t do a job next season? I think we deffo need at least 2 creative midfielders for next season, as we only have Norwood and he’s not good enough anymore.

Depends on the formation. If he's given a destroyer/enforcer in the middle to play alongside (e.g. 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 / 4-2-2-2), he'll run games. However, if he's playing centrally in a three (e.g. 5-3-2 / 3-5-2 or 4-3-3), he'll again look exposed, slow, lightweight and will be regularly overrun.

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Am I the only one that thinks Norwood is past it and won’t do a job next season? I think we deffo need at least 2 creative midfielders for next season, as we only have Norwood and he’s not good enough anymore.

Way too slow

 

[ancientblade]

im 50 -50 on norwood for next season one part of me says hes about finished and not good enough and the other part saying he would be good enough for the championship big big difference between that league and the premier league having said that still think were gonna need 3 new midfielders to come in

 

[Scarebus]

What is he blathering on about. Someone give him a medal and send him to bed.

 

[Booker4]

Internet/social media rumours have suggested he’s almost back to square one and Dane inferred he had some knowledge around this and not to expect him back next year.
This coupled with the press stories about his rehabilitation, that’s there’s no timescale for a return make me think he isn’t going to be back in August.

I was saying to a Blades mate yesterday, it has the feeling of Dane Whitehouse and I really hope I'm wrong. Recovery, then delayed, set back etc. I have no expectation he'll be fit for the start of next season. Either way we need to sign a quality alternative for the LCB role, although if we go down to four at the back maybe Egan could play there?

 

[ancientblade]

I was saying to a Blades mate yesterday, it has the feeling of Dane Whitehouse and I really hope I'm wrong. Recovery, then delayed, set back etc. I have no expectation he'll be fit for the start of next season. Either way we need to sign a quality alternative for the LCB role, although if we go down to four at the back maybe Egan could play there?

doubt egan will still be here booker and share your fears on joc but im hoping whoever comes in goes to 4 at the back maybe 2 new centre backs ?

 

[yorkshirecoast]

doubt egan will still be here booker and share your fears on joc but im hoping whoever comes in goes to 4 at the back maybe 2 new centre backs ?

Be amazed if Egan gets a PL offer. Lacks pace and mobility.

 

[blade_ben]

Be amazed if Egan gets a PL offer. Lacks pace and mobility.

And concentration