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Lukeguest199 said:
Don't know enough about Wilders situation on leaving yous - But he left us (Ox) as felt board wearnt backing him and left us in the lurch mid promotion push. Appleton come in and gave us our best years but was very well backed. seeing Mixed reviews on the CW feeling on here & twitter, I guess the fairy tale was always going to come to an end.
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Appreciate you're input.

It seems when he left your club it still worked out for him in the longer run i.e. going on to have great success with Northampton and then us. However now he has (seemingly) walked out on us also, I have a feeling (just my personal feeling BTW) success in his next role may be harder to come by for a variety of reasons. Don't get me wrong I wish him well wherever he goes.

Anyway good luck in hunting down the Play Offs.
 

Mouth of the South said:
Regardless of the actual name, my point was more a tactical one for the Board. Appointing a proven, high profile 'name' may be a good start to getting supporters back on board and of course may also help with the corporate side.
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Whats Bryan Robson up to these days?
 
borbokis said:
Whats Bryan Robson up to these days?
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Haha - don't! TBH I have a higher degree of confidence the Board will make a decent choice. Certainly more so than has McCabe still been in charge - for someone so successful in business, his lack of nous and overall decision making regarding Utd was utterly mystifying, typified by some of his managerial appointments (with one notable exception of course!).
 
Just want to point out that when Wilder was appointed, I think it was mostly greeted with a shrug of acceptance and a general lack of excitement. We all knew he was a Blade and had probably earned a crack at the job. My point being is, I don’t think we should become obsessed with recruiting a “name”. Getting a rising talent from the lower leagues served us quite well last time.
 
I see he's also being linked with the WBA job if they go down. He's always been really highly rated within the game despite not really doing much.
 
lepton blade said:
Just want to point out that when Wilder was appointed, I think it was mostly greeted with a shrug of acceptance and a general lack of excitement. We all knew he was a Blade and had probably earned a crack at the job. My point being is, I don’t think we should become obsessed with recruiting a “name”. Getting a rising talent from the lower leagues served us quite well last time.
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Our only 3 successful managers in the last 50 years have been Bassett, Warnock and Wilder. I think that they had similar strengths, not in the way they play but in their ability to forge a team greater than the sum of its parts. I also think that none of them would want to work under a DOF.

We're going to have to find a new way to be successful, going forwards.
 
Lukeguest199 said:
Don't know enough about Wilders situation on leaving yous - But he left us (Ox) as felt board wearnt backing him and left us in the lurch mid promotion push. Appleton come in and gave us our best years but was very well backed. seeing Mixed reviews on the CW feeling on here & twitter, I guess the fairy tale was always going to come to an end.
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By “mixed reviews” - let’s have some objectivity;

The poll on here suggests the pro Wilder camp outnumber the anti Wilder camp by 9 to 1.
 
Barney Rubble said:
Our only 3 successful managers in the last 50 years have been Bassett, Warnock and Wilder. I think that they had similar strengths, not in the way they play but in their ability to forge a team greater than the sum of its parts. I also think that none of them would want to work under a DOF.

We're going to have to find a new way to be successful, going forwards.
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People use the term DoF as if it has a universal definition. It can and should be scoped to provide whatever support is required to the manager/head coach and the club in general. Admittedly, it tends to include some sort of oversight of/ involvement in recruitment, which I assume PA is seeking considering the success levels of recent recruits. However, the role Derek Dooley provided when Bassett was at the club i.e. providing a link between the Board and management/playing could also be defined as DoF and you'll struggle to find anyone say a bad word about him as a bloke or the impact he had in his role.

It's such a shame the future direction of the club couldn't be aligned on while CW was at the club. Personally, I feel CW did require some additional support - in general the higher-up he got the club, the less effective and successful his signings appeared to be. He obviously had a preference for home grown players but that is proven to be a very expensive and competitive market to deal in.
 

Mouth of the South said:
People use the term DoF as if it has a universal definition. It can and should be scoped to provide whatever support is required to the manager/head coach and the club in general. Admittedly, it tends to include some sort of oversight of/ involvement in recruitment, which I assume PA is seeking considering the success levels of recent recruits. However, the role Derek Dooley provided when Bassett was at the club i.e. providing a link between the Board and management/playing could also be defined as DoF and you'll struggle to find anyone say a bad word about him as a bloke or the impact he had in his role.

It's such a shame the future direction of the club couldn't be aligned on while CW was at the club. Personally, I feel CW did require some additional support - in general the higher-up he got the club, the less effective and successful his signings appeared to be. He obviously had a preference for home grown players but that is proven to be a very expensive and competitive market to deal in.
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The biggest danger for me occurs when the role is completely split. Dennis Wise at Newcastle would be a good example.
Who gets the blame for poor performance? It could be that the DOF is at fault because the signings aren't good enough, or poor coaching is to blame in not getting the best out of the players. By its name Director implies a position above that of manager, rather than a support. Again, the motivational manager Clough, Ferguson, Wilder is getting squeezed out with focus placed upon recruitment and coaching. I thought that Bettis had taken on the Dooley role for Wilder but of course lacked the footballing know how as he is more business orientated.

I think CW was in need of support with recruitment including a widening of the scouting network. The question remains as to what the board envisage a DOF should be doing. If it was to provide CW with a wider array of options in areas he targeted then all well and good, if recruitment was being removed from his hands then I would understand why he found his position untenable.
 
I honestly don’t think the head coach won’t have any say in the signings.
 
Barney Rubble said:
The biggest danger for me occurs when the role is completely split. Dennis Wise at Newcastle would be a good example.
Who gets the blame for poor performance? It could be that the DOF is at fault because the signings aren't good enough, or poor coaching is to blame in not getting the best out of the players. By its name Director implies a position above that of manager, rather than a support. Again, the motivational manager Clough, Ferguson, Wilder is getting squeezed out with focus placed upon recruitment and coaching. I thought that Bettis had taken on the Dooley role for Wilder but of course lacked the footballing know how as he is more business orientated.

I think CW was in need of support with recruitment including a widening of the scouting network. The question remains as to what the board envisage a DOF should be doing. If it was to provide CW with a wider array of options in areas he targeted then all well and good, if recruitment was being removed from his hands then I would understand why he found his position untenable.
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The way I think of it is a DoF always gets a second chance normally if a manager or coach has a poor season that’s it they’re gone where as a DoF has to have multiple coaches fail under him until he’s identified as the issue. However on the plus side a great DoF allows you to have a successful coach poached and just slots in the next guy up allowing the club to maintain an upward trajectory.
 
I don't think its new information - there were murmers about him a few weeks ago, indicating he was on the long list, and its no surprise if he's made the top 5. He's done well at Lincoln, but its a little uninspiring given his record at Blackburn. We'd be the biggest job he's had as well.
 
Bath Blade said:
The 1995 Premier League champions might beg to differ!
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Yep, that crossed my mind as well! But I think the expectations of a newly relegated PL team would be greater than that of a skint Blackburn? I wondered if it was a bit S6 arrogant given Blackburns relatively recent history, but couldn't even recall the last time they made the playoffs?
 

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