Michael Appleton

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It's clearly obvious that despite parachute payments we don't have a pot to piss in. We are going to sell any player who a bid comes in for and some Muppet will manage us who will leave before Christmas, we will be in a dog fight next year to stay up. This club ought to be actually embarrassed by how yet again they have managed to go from being in a great position to push on and making an absolute fuck up of it, see also 1975, 1993, 2007.

Same old United.
 

It's clearly obvious that despite parachute payments we don't have a pot to piss in. We are going to sell any player who a bid comes in for and some Muppet will manage us who will leave before Christmas, we will be in a dog fight next year to stay up. This club ought to be actually embarrassed by how yet again they have managed to go from being in a great position to push on and making an absolute fuck up of it, see also 1975, 1993, 2007.

Same old United.
I understand where the feelings come from, given our history, but wouldn't it be better to reserve judgement? We haven't appointed anyone yet, other than one name we don't even know who's in the running, yet you've gone off the deep end!
 
I understand where the feelings come from, given our history, but wouldn't it be better to reserve judgement? We haven't appointed anyone yet, other than one name we don't even know who's in the running, yet you've gone off the deep end!

Since lockdown we have been poor on the pitch and very much look worse than the Sunderland team that slid through two divisions.

I see absolutely no reason for any optimism - our past just adds to the mix.

Yes we haven't appointed anyone yet, but do you trust we will pick a decent manager?
 
It's clearly obvious that despite parachute payments we don't have a pot to piss in. We are going to sell any player who a bid comes in for and some Muppet will manage us who will leave before Christmas, we will be in a dog fight next year to stay up. This club ought to be actually embarrassed by how yet again they have managed to go from being in a great position to push on and making an absolute fuck up of it, see also 1975, 1993, 2007.

Same old United.

That's the spirit eh.

Absolutely none of the above has come to fruition and yet some are sharpening the knives and wondering which wrist gets it first.

I can't remember a single player the club has sold since PA gained joint control, let alone sole, that has made me think we will go back to the days of selling any half decent player we get for peanuts. Even Brooks' sale had merit and allowed us to get promoted the next season.

Rumours, and only rumours like, are that we have had offers for some of our better players over the last few seasons ie Fleck and JOC and what happened? Were they sold? No they stayed and were rewarded with a better contract. I know for fact McCabe would've taken the money.

As for all the manager stuff everyone is getting their frillies in a twist based on:

A) The fact the club are taking their time - Why is that a bad thing?
B) A load of unsubstantiated drivel by reporters probably no more ITK than me and thee.

I'm not saying you're wrong and your prediction may come true but I'd rather wait until it happens rather than assuming the worst as, in all reality, PA hasn't really put a foot wrong bar the CW fiasco and still has a bit of credit in the bank IMHO.
 
Since lockdown we have been poor on the pitch and very much look worse than the Sunderland team that slid through two divisions.

I see absolutely no reason for any optimism - our past just adds to the mix.

Yes we haven't appointed anyone yet, but do you trust we will pick a decent manager?
Yes
 
Since lockdown we have been poor on the pitch and very much look worse than the Sunderland team that slid through two divisions.

I see absolutely no reason for any optimism - our past just adds to the mix.

Yes we haven't appointed anyone yet, but do you trust we will pick a decent manager?

So who would you like to see appointed and which assets would you prefer to be offloaded to compensate for the loss of revenue next season?
 
I get what you're saying here. I want us to be looking at the very top tier of candidates available to us, managers with experience of promotion from the Championship. That's Howe and Jokanovic and it doesn't look like either of them is coming. Failing that I would prefer a complete breath of fresh air, a totally new direction for the club. That's Blessin, and it seems like we'll fail to get a work permit for him.

So what's left? I think it's either one of the same old, grey faces from the managerial merry-go-round who at least have experience in the Championship (Lennon, anyone?) or we look down the leagues and find someone with a promising record there. Duff at Cheltenham would be a real leftfield appointment. I think Appleton also fits this category. He had a couple of false starts in his managerial career but since 2014 he's done well and he's still a young man for a manager. He's nowhere near the top of my list but I don't think he's as bad a candidate as he's being made
out to be on here.
I don't know much about him, but I like the look of Duff and what he's doing there. But then if he's in contention then the likes of Blackpool's Neil Critchley come into contention also, and I don't particularly want someone like that who's had one decent season and with decent loan players largely.

Deffo not Lennon, would rather Hecky over him, he's too emoitional.

I'll keep saying it, Wagner for me.
 
If getting Oxford into L1 wasn’t remarkable, why couldn’t Wilder do it?

The Cowleys are also known for wanting complete control over clubs, which I don’t think PA would be prepared to give them.
Wilder took them up from non-league in fairness and then it can take time to build again for the next promotion. From what I've read Wilder was frustrated at Oxford, hence leaving for Northampton. I think his Oxford chairman left to go to Northampton, so I don't know how long Wilder was with the new chairman back at Oxford if I've got that right? He took Northampton up in no time. I'm not saying getting Oxford up isn't a decent achievement, but Wilder comparisons aside, I don't think Appleton's mixed record warrants him getting the job, nor Robinson from Oxford at the present either.
 
Any manager with a great cv or shit cv means nothing look how Adkins turned out,same as transfers some players are shit at some clubs and great at others it's all a risk.
 
I can't remember a single player the club has sold since PA gained joint control, let alone sole, that has made me think we will go back to the days of selling any half decent player we get for peanuts. Even Brooks' sale had merit and allowed us to get promoted the next season.

Harry Maguire says hello. So does Jamie Murphy.
 
Since lockdown we have been poor on the pitch and very much look worse than the Sunderland team that slid through two divisions.

I see absolutely no reason for any optimism - our past just adds to the mix.

Yes we haven't appointed anyone yet, but do you trust we will pick a decent manager?
I do actually, I believe the Prince is aware of the criticality of this appointment. But I'm very much in the 'let's wait and see shall we' camp.
 
If I were going for a young English manager I would probably go for Ian Evatt. Got barrow promoted on a shoeing budget and now appears to be turning around Horwich Wanderers.
 
I’m not advocating for the guy, I’m just curious what it is in particular about him that people think makes him such a poor choice.

Can’t say I’ve heard anything particularly substantial so far. I think folk have taken against him because of the Wilder/Oxford connection. Doesn’t make much sense to me, honestly.

I just think he looks like a cheap option something typically United like to do.
We have just come down from the Premiership not up from League One.
There is nothing on his CV that indicates he could get us back up to the Premiership 1st time.
He has had 3 clubs which he's left each one in under or around 50 games thats slightly over one season and that's not including caretaker roles. His current club have just about got in the play offs despite being clear at the top a few months ago.
It's like some of our fans can see something that's not actually there in his record.
I don't get why some of our fans seem to be sort of ok with him, yet any mention of Robinson and everyone is up in arms.
Especially when Robinson has a better record overall, and you could argue Robinson has a better record at Oxford than Appleton did.
I hear people mention his potential or him being tipped for the top but he's been managing for 10 years how long does he need.
 
Since lockdown we have been poor on the pitch and very much look worse than the Sunderland team that slid through two divisions.

I see absolutely no reason for any optimism - our past just adds to the mix.

Yes we haven't appointed anyone yet, but do you trust we will pick a decent manager?

Have you watched any Championship football this season ?
I have and it's that bloody poor that even if we just kept our squad we have now I'm confident we would be top six easy with a semi decent manager.
 
Have you watched any Championship football this season ?
I have and it's that bloody poor that even if we just kept our squad we have now I'm confident we would be top six easy with a semi decent manager.

There's been no suggestion so far than we can keep our squad.
 

Bit old to be getting that but best wishes to the lad
 

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