Colourisation of a 1925 FA Cup final photo

[Silent Blade]

 

[bertieblade]

Phoenix from the flames.
Can you spot Frank Skinner

 

[broomhillblade]

The bald one is Billy Gillespie.

 

[northsomersetblade]

Nay lad ‘tis Neville Davitt with his bald head

 

[bakeblade]

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WOW some of the players look in their 50s at least

 

[More Bladier than thou]

Even back then, Alan Cork looked older than them.

 

[Newbury Blade]

Surely if Cardiff were in their home shirt, we would have worn pink or green?

 

[Chezzy Blades]

WOW some of the players look in their 50s at least

Our oldest player that day was Billy Cook at 35. Gillespie and Pantling were both 33.

Billy Sharp looks a little bit different at 35 for sure!

 

[Silent Blade]

Our oldest player that day was Billy Cook at 35.

Played in the 1915 final too. Cook and his family still lived in Hebburn throughout his SUFC career but they moved to Sheffield (how strange is that?) after Cook retired as a footballer. He had a shop in Abbeydale Road.

 

[Danny_Blade]

I suppose there is a likelihood some of them (from both sides) that day were survivors of WW1 which would've been seven years prior in 1925.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Nay lad ‘tis Neville Davitt with his bald head

..... Hagerty J, Hagerty R

 

[Big Hitter]

That ball looks as heavy as lead.
Is that Tunstall lurking in the background?

 

[Bucksblade]

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Are you allowed to say "colourisation" in this woke PC world of thin skins. Maybe the phrase " a picture of colour" is more appropriate.

 

[XM657]

That ball looks as heavy as lead.
Is that Tunstall lurking in the background?

Balls were heavier even in the 40's and 50's, mi own personal experience. Would think they wouldn't be any heavier in 1925 than in the 50's.
New ball, fine day and don't forget proper boots, bet Fred gave it a reight thump.
Young Harry, airborne, maybe, could be Tommy Boyle in background don't believe it's Fred Tunstall.

 

[Big Hitter]

Balls were heavier even in the 40's and 50's, mi own personal experience. Would think they wouldn't be any heavier in 1925 than in the 50's.
New ball, fine day and don't forget proper boots, bet Fred gave it a reight thump.
Young Harry, airborne, maybe, could be Tommy Boyle in background don't believe it's Fred Tunstall.

Yes love those boots, that's how we all used to lace them, underneath and then round the ankle.

 

[XM657]

Laces were about a yard long, had to be, what about studs? Lose a couple and then round tot' cobblers. One round us lived across and just up road from us. He had a shop at Intake but could take and pick up from his home. Remember he and his wife were great, always enjoyed going, one of mi tasks in return for pocket money. I cannot remember there name, and have been trying for a long time now, bugger, and there no one left I can think to ask.
Returning to the colourised 1925 FACF photo, fella in background could be George Green.
I have been trying to load a couple of other box action photos I have but they just won't load. So instead, the result of all the action.

 

[AnglesWithDirtyFaces]

Is that a black cat sat on top of the cup!

 

[Big Hitter]

Gillespie looks older than me.! Bet he looked 40 when he was born.

 

[Silent Blade]

Is that a black cat sat on top of the cup!

It was a mascot

 

[Big Hitter]

Whats that advert in background? " Daily ...something.?"

 

[AnglesWithDirtyFaces]

Thank goodness for that, I thought I was seeing things

 

[davey1889]

Balls were heavier even in the 40's and 50's, mi own personal experience. Would think they wouldn't be any heavier in 1925 than in the 50's.
New ball, fine day and don't forget proper boots, bet Fred gave it a reight thump.
Young Harry, airborne, maybe, could be Tommy Boyle in background don't believe it's Fred Tunstall.

Actually balls have got heavier over the years. Prior to 1937 balls were an ounce lighter (13-15 ounces).

Since 1937 they have been the same weight (14-16 ounces) but crucially this is the dry weight at the start of the game.

The issue is that modern balls don't get wet and soak up water like the balls from earlier times. Would like to have weighed a ball at the end of a wet game from the 40s / 50s!

 

[silver blade]

Is that a black cat sat on top of the cup!

It's a lucky black cat, what was you expecting a flipping pig?

 

[AnglesWithDirtyFaces]

Not unless it's black and covered in fur.
Maybe this cat should come out of retirement with the luck we've had since '25

 

[XM657]

Actually balls have got heavier over the years. Prior to 1937 balls were an ounce lighter (13-15 ounces).

Since 1937 they have been the same weight (14-16 ounces) but crucially this is the dry weight at the start of the game.

The issue is that modern balls don't get wet and soak up water like the balls from earlier times. Would like to have weighed a ball at the end of a wet game from the 40s / 50s!

Thank you for the ball weight info, extremely interesting, but don't forget Football League matches, at least since the end of the war to my knowledge, were played with new balls.
The new balls of that time had a coating, constituency of which I know nothing, preventing water ingression until the ball was well worn/scuffed and I don't think 90 minuets would make much difference.
I don't believe balls used in Football League games, 40's/50's, absorbed as much water as is talked of these days.
If you played local league football, new balls at seasons start, then same ones as the season progressed. In this situation as balls wore they absorbed water, getting heavier. Therefore heavier wet balls in local football but not so much in the professional game.
Memory says only new ball at end of season would be in a Cup Final.

 

[sufcpepper]

Amazing picture, great job!

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Our oldest player that day was Billy Cook at 35. Gillespie and Pantling were both 33.

Billy Sharp looks a little bit different at 35 for sure!

People at 35 in those days, wore cardigans and smoked a pipe.

 

[HVR]

Whats that advert in background? " Daily ...something.?"

Chronicle?