Spunked away 53.5 million

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OK, I'll play along. Both McBurnie and Mousset actually made excellent contributions in OUR first season back in the premier league, a season where we finished in a remarkable position in the table and were very unfortunate not to reach the FA Cup semi finals.
Brewster is a young kid with bags of potential who is yet to find his groove. I see no evidence of him 'getting the strop on'.
Perhaps we'd have been better pushing the boat out and signing a proven goalscorer, oh I don't know, somebody like Jordan Rhodes. A big money signing so great that Norwich wouldn't even take on a free transfer and who struggles to get into a team that regularly have one shot on target every game.
I know which manager and chairman I'd want in charge of my club.
I would have quite liked 4 or 5 of those Norwich players.
 
Hi, Stegosaurus here

He also spunked up to 18 million on the worst goalie in the league and 20 million plus on Berge. And 7 million on Freeman who barely kicked a ball.

Not to mention wasting wages on Rodwell.
Has he bought anyone that was a worthwhile purchase?
 
I don't see how anyone can say Mousset at 10m was a waste of money.

Last season he scored 6 goals with 4 assists and this means he was our single largest contributor of our entire squad and was involved in more than a quarter of all the goals that we scored last season. His fitness has unfortunately been disappointing, but when you isolate it to games where Mousset was playing, he was involved in 50% of the goals we scored.

Wesley for Villa played over 500 minutes more than Mousset last season and scored less goals (5) and far less assists (1) and was signed for £23m...
 
To quote Wilder who once said he wouldn't 'spunk' away money like other clubs.

McBurnie - 20 million
Brewster - 23.5 million
Mousset - 10 million.

If that's not 'spunking' away money I don't know what is.

Swansea, Liverpool and Bournemouth must be laughing all the way to the bank.

McBurnie is pathetic, Brewster is rubbish and gets the strop on everytime he isn't picked and Mousset should just get in his car (which he'd probably get injured doing) and drive back to France.

It says it all that Billy and Didzy who we signed for a combined total of 500K are our best strikers by a country mile.

Wilder as well as Prince need to take a long hard look at themselves I'm afraid we will just have to take the losses on Mcpub and Mousset and get them off the wage bill. Problem is we'd have to pay a team to take them off us. Diabolical, desperate and shambolic recruitment upfront.

Nail on the head.
 
Never been a fan of Bamford, but he works hard for the team and scores goals.
 
Standards are really dropping on here. We need some new insults asap. The Prince andWilder could help by signing a few players whose names rhyme with "tit/shit" "Knob" "minge" and "crater face". But given our recruitment we'll just sign someone called "Bob".
It's a disgrace.
Bob rhymes with knob though?! Boooo Bob! You minge!!
 
Watching Everton with DCL up top, is chalk and cheese to us when we play McBurnie, DCL is incredibly good in the air, but they rarely try a trick shot off a satellite for him flick on. McBurnie is decent on the floor, and a threat in the box in the air. If we revert to the coward’s hoof however, both him and the wider team look absolutely shite.
 
Not replying to the pig op who wrote this but what is it with some of our fan base wanting to try and destroy players who pull on the red and white? Fuck me what a toxic grip of wankers some of our fans are. I hope when we go down we get rid of some of the self entitled pricks who jumped on the bandwagon then turn on the players first chance they get.
Some people need to grow the fuck up.
 
Watching Everton with DCL up top, is chalk and cheese to us when we play McBurnie, DCL is incredibly good in the air, but they rarely try a trick shot off a satellite for him flick on. McBurnie is decent on the floor, and a threat in the box in the air. If we revert to the coward’s hoof however, both him and the wider team look absolutely shite.
How long has it taken DCL to get to that level? Mcburnie has had one full season on the premier league and has pretty much had to play every week. DCL spent a fair amount of time in Everton’s youth team. There is no comparison, why not judge mcburnie when he has a season with us in the league below? Gets another season on his back gets a bit of confidence up?
 
To quote Wilder who once said he wouldn't 'spunk' away money like other clubs.

McBurnie - 20 million
Brewster - 23.5 million
Mousset - 10 million.

If that's not 'spunking' away money I don't know what is.

Swansea, Liverpool and Bournemouth must be laughing all the way to the bank.

McBurnie is pathetic, Brewster is rubbish and gets the strop on everytime he isn't picked and Mousset should just get in his car (which he'd probably get injured doing) and drive back to France.

It says it all that Billy and Didzy who we signed for a combined total of 500K are our best strikers by a country mile.

Wilder as well as Prince need to take a long hard look at themselves I'm afraid we will just have to take the losses on Mcpub and Mousset and get them off the wage bill. Problem is we'd have to pay a team to take them off us. Diabolical, desperate and shambolic recruitment upfront.
Spot on, but there's no chance Wilder will take any responsibility.
 

Brewster is a young kid with bags of potential who is yet to find his groove. I see no evidence of him 'getting the strop on'.
I've been critical of Brewster previously but what I do like about him, is that he shoots on sight. So far, he's been unlucky and either missed the target or hit defenders legs but once he gets one, I think the floodgates will open. He's like Billy 3.0, he instinctively knows where the net is, it's just up to us to utilise him in the correct way. I see him get disappointed when he doesn't score but it's not what I'd call getting the strop on. It shows he's bothered.
 
Spot on, but there's no chance Wilder will take any responsibility.
He’s already taken responsibility in a few interviews. How should he have approached this season then Barney? What should he have done different? Every signing is a risk and there isn’t a manager on the world who has got every signing right. You do realise the pool we have to sign players from don’t you? You do understand we can’t offer these established PL players the wages they will get elsewhere.
We are going down so what it’s not even in the top 5 disappointments I’ve had supporting our club. We are so much stronger than we were 5 years ago. It’s a blip we couldn’t maintain the rise we have been on. Take a step back like a lot of other clubs have and we go again. It really isn’t the end of the world.
 
He’s already taken responsibility in a few interviews. How should he have approached this season then Barney? What should he have done different? Every signing is a risk and there isn’t a manager on the world who has got every signing right. You do realise the pool we have to sign players from don’t you? You do understand we can’t offer these established PL players the wages they will get elsewhere.
We are going down so what it’s not even in the top 5 disappointments I’ve had supporting our club. We are so much stronger than we were 5 years ago. It’s a blip we couldn’t maintain the rise we have been on. Take a step back like a lot of other clubs have and we go again. It really isn’t the end of the world.
I think he should have solved the glaring need for two new midfielders. It was easy to get sucked in to the hype for another striker but there's no point buying a golden roof for your house when your walls are made of Lego. The elephant in the room was how we were going to provide service to the likes of Brewster with a wafer thin midfield of primarily championship quality, and that's come to fruition.

The wages myth has been busted loads of times. If we are offering £23m, £18m here there and everywhere (over £100m in fees in just 12 months), then we can afford premier league wages. It just means you have to taper the fees down a bit to increase the wage budget.
 
What we have paid out pales insignificantly to the money Arsenals paid out to miss out on Europe all together.
Pepes worth matches mcgoldrick in terms of goals
Yet arsenal paid 72m for pepe
We got mcgoldrick for a phone call
 
I think he should have solved the glaring need for two new midfielders. It was easy to get sucked in to the hype for another striker but there's no point buying a golden roof for your house when your walls are made of Lego. The elephant in the room was how we were going to provide service to the likes of Brewster with a wafer thin midfield of primarily championship quality, and that's come to fruition.

The wages myth has been busted loads of times. If we are offering £23m, £18m here there and everywhere (over £100m in fees in just 12 months), then we can afford premier league wages. It just means you have to taper the fees down a bit to increase the wage budget.
No has the wages myth been busted? So you actually think we have paid 18m for Ramsdale and 23m for Brewster? Those fees will be made up of various conditions as most transfers are. They will also be paid over a period of time. It is a fact we have the lowest wage bill in the PL by some distance. Do you think the likes of Portsmouth and Stoke struggles due to the transfer fees they paid out or the wages they still has to pay when they went down?
It’s not a myth and it certainly hasn’t been busted.
However I don’t disagree we did needed a midfielder but again do you know for certain we didn’t try and get said midfielder? You or I have no idea who we enquired about or bid for etc. Maybe wilder wanted certain players and the board wouldn’t sanction them due to their wage demands. We don’t have any idea what goes on behind the scenes.
 
No has the wages myth been busted? So you actually think we have paid 18m for Ramsdale and 23m for Brewster? Those fees will be made up of various conditions as most transfers are. They will also be paid over a period of time. It is a fact we have the lowest wage bill in the PL by some distance. Do you think the likes of Portsmouth and Stoke struggles due to the transfer fees they paid out or the wages they still has to pay when they went down?
It’s not a myth and it certainly hasn’t been busted.
However I don’t disagree we did needed a midfielder but again do you know for certain we didn’t try and get said midfielder? You or I have no idea who we enquired about or bid for etc. Maybe wilder wanted certain players and the board wouldn’t sanction them due to their wage demands. We don’t have any idea what goes on behind the scenes.
paid over 3 payments isnt it and think ramsdales fee was 14m as they still owed us the last payment for brooks and yes midfield has been ignored a little think we needed 2 more in before season started
 
I think he should have solved the glaring need for two new midfielders. It was easy to get sucked in to the hype for another striker but there's no point buying a golden roof for your house when your walls are made of Lego. The elephant in the room was how we were going to provide service to the likes of Brewster with a wafer thin midfield of primarily championship quality, and that's come to fruition.

The wages myth has been busted loads of times. If we are offering £23m, £18m here there and everywhere (over £100m in fees in just 12 months), then we can afford premier league wages. It just means you have to taper the fees down a bit to increase the wage budget.
You do know how much two midfielders that would have made a difference would cost don’t you ?
With no guarantees they would have made the difference!
The hatred for our team and manager is beyond belief
 
The £53.5 million hasn't been wasted if they come good in the Championship and get us promoted again.

The £53.5 million will be wasted when it comes to new contracts, we won't pay them sufficiently so we'll lose them for peanuts, or nothing at all.
 
Quite a few varied views over the last 80 odd posts, just a couple of pointers, we are not down yet and 53 mill in Prem terms ain't a lot, although our wage structure appears to hold us back, which is open to more debate.
Rammers and Brewster will come good, Moose has lost his way, it happens.
McB and the rest of the strikers I'll be happy to go with if the worst happens.
Midfield needs major surgery in the next window I believe.
CW and the Prince know this and I am sure will address, time and patience are rare commodities these days, especially on this board. The future might not be exactly rosy at this moment in time, but believe me it's been a hell of a lot worse in the past. UTB
 
Absolutely not in the slightest bit funny. You should not be insulting young players who will be reading or being told about these comments.
These boys are learning their trade in a struggling team in the toughest league in the world and many of them will be successful.
If I was shit at my job I'd rightly be told that I'm shit. The only difference being that they get paid more than most of us will ever earn and despite how shite they perform for a season you can bet there'll always be another team willing to take a chance on them.
 
To quote Wilder who once said he wouldn't 'spunk' away money like other clubs.

McBurnie - 20 million
Brewster - 23.5 million
Mousset - 10 million.

If that's not 'spunking' away money I don't know what is.

So, if we've spunked away 53.5m, these players have zero value and Hallam should be able to pick them up on a free?
 
To quote Wilder who once said he wouldn't 'spunk' away money like other clubs.

McBurnie - 20 million
Brewster - 23.5 million
Mousset - 10 million.

If that's not 'spunking' away money I don't know what is.

Swansea, Liverpool and Bournemouth must be laughing all the way to the bank.

McBurnie is pathetic, Brewster is rubbish and gets the strop on everytime he isn't picked and Mousset should just get in his car (which he'd probably get injured doing) and drive back to France.

It says it all that Billy and Didzy who we signed for a combined total of 500K are our best strikers by a country mile.

Wilder as well as Prince need to take a long hard look at themselves I'm afraid we will just have to take the losses on Mcpub and Mousset and get them off the wage bill. Problem is we'd have to pay a team to take them off us. Diabolical, desperate and shambolic recruitment upfront.
As has been said plenty, and I can't believe it still needs to be, McBurnie and Mousset scored goals to contribute to our survival in the PL. They owe us nothing.
Brewster was a panic buy we didn't need, but he has serious potential.

And where's the Prince hate come from? He's the one who's funded it...
 
Quite a few varied views over the last 80 odd posts, just a couple of pointers, we are not down yet and 53 mill in Prem terms ain't a lot, although our wage structure appears to hold us back, which is open to more debate.
Rammers and Brewster will come good, Moose has lost his way, it happens.
McB and the rest of the strikers I'll be happy to go with if the worst happens.
Midfield needs major surgery in the next window I believe.
CW and the Prince know this and I am sure will address, time and patience are rare commodities these days, especially on this board. The future might not be exactly rosy at this moment in time, but believe me it's been a hell of a lot worse in the past. UTB

I think with fees / wages / other costs, the Devil is in the detail. In terms of us, the costs for Watkins, Cash, etc would have pushed that up substantially.

Bit like me when I bought my last car. What I paid could pretty easily have bought me a used Focus ST, but insurance, servicing / parts would have been eye watering compared to what I ended up buying.
 

No has the wages myth been busted? So you actually think we have paid 18m for Ramsdale and 23m for Brewster? Those fees will be made up of various conditions as most transfers are. They will also be paid over a period of time. It is a fact we have the lowest wage bill in the PL by some distance. Do you think the likes of Portsmouth and Stoke struggles due to the transfer fees they paid out or the wages they still has to pay when they went down?
It’s not a myth and it certainly hasn’t been busted.
However I don’t disagree we did needed a midfielder but again do you know for certain we didn’t try and get said midfielder? You or I have no idea who we enquired about or bid for etc. Maybe wilder wanted certain players and the board wouldn’t sanction them due to their wage demands. We don’t have any idea what goes on behind the scenes.
What's the point in getting promoted to the PL if we're not going to do the things, one of which being the payment of the standard rate for wages, which give a decent chance of establishing there?
 

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