Ramsdale--our worst signing ever?

[JackSUFC]

It's not really hindsight, a lot of us (including me) were suggesting a proven, experienced keeper rather than Ramsdale. The lad is actually getting worse and clearly needs resting. Why we didn't try one of the backup keepers yesterday is beyond me.

The only reason I can think of is because Wilder wanted to play him in a winnable game with a good chance of a clean sheet, so he could build some confidence.

Obviously he ruined his chance of the clean sheet with the only shot he had to save.

 

[Crabstick]

Wish we went after Cakir when we were linked with him. Instead, we just ended up with someone who is cack here.

 

[JS Blade]

Dean Henderson would have kept us mid table without a doubt. The all team especially in defence had loads of confidence with him in goal, that's one of the reasons we were playing better football last season.

No he wouldn’t

 

[JS Blade]

Hardly any, if any, fees are paid up front.

The fact that Bournemouth still owed us has nothing to do with the transfer. We were getting that money on a scheduled timeframe.

We could (and possibly have) borrowed against it if we needed to.

Your point just doesn’t make any sense.

It clearly does make sense. Hence why the decision was made by the club. Straight after already paying out £50m for ownership. When as I have said the owner is not wealthy enough to back a premier league club.

Clearly your struggling to come to terms with the fact that we were priced out of other goalkeepers (Before it gets mentioned I am not saying they are not superior) and the one we signed suited the club. End of.

If you ask the owners would they rather pay with money/funds they have or do they write of debt rather than wait 4 years for it and use it in a transfer I think you will find a fairly quick, straight reply.

So other than Stegosaurus and Alcoblade, is there anyone else who needs their head wobbling and some perspective?? I’m here all afternoon.

 

[raul]

It's someone's birthday and they've got A Big Boys Book of Business everybody!

 

[JS Blade]

It's someone's birthday and they've got A Big Boys Book of Business everybody!

Nice of you to join in Raul.

I see you have finished looking at the pictures trying to learn words in the television guide.

 

[alcoblade]

It clearly does make sense. Hence why the decision was made by the club. Straight after already paying out £50m for ownership. When as I have said the owner is not wealthy enough to back a premier league club.

Clearly your struggling to come to terms with the fact that we were priced out of other goalkeepers (Before it gets mentioned I am not saying they are not superior) and the one we signed suited the club. End of.

If you ask the owners would they rather pay with money/funds they have or do they write of debt rather than wait 4 years for it and use it in a transfer I think you will find a fairly quick, straight reply.

So other than Stegosaurus and Alcoblade, is there anyone else who needs their head wobbling and some perspective?? I’m here all afternoon.

You’re really clueless, aren’t you?

I can forgive the youthful nativity. It’s the spreading it across social media, completely blind to the fact that you’re so clueless, that’s the amusing part.

 

[Kop sufferer]

Not read all 300 or so threads, but tell me this, 2 goalkeepers on show yesterday, similar age, similar height, both available for England, one full of confidence, the other devowed of any, which one cost 18 mil.???

 

[JS Blade]

You’re really clueless, aren’t you?

I can forgive the youthful nativity. It’s the spreading it across social media, completely blind to the fact that you’re so clueless that’s the amusing part.

No, not really. You just have no comeback and in your head the only reply you have is to try and render me clueless in front of 65% of this forum that has your narrow minded mindset.

 

[alcoblade]

Not read all 300 or so threads, but tell me this, 2 goalkeepers on show yesterday, similar age, similar height, both available for England, one full of confidence, the other devowed of any, which one cost 18 mil.???

Don’t forget he didn’t cost us £18m. He was practically free, because Bournemouth owed us some money. Ask JS Blade.

 

[bakeblade]

It clearly does make sense. Hence why the decision was made by the club. Straight after already paying out £50m for ownership. When as I have said the owner is not wealthy enough to back a premier league club.

Clearly your struggling to come to terms with the fact that we were priced out of other goalkeepers (Before it gets mentioned I am not saying they are not superior) and the one we signed suited the club. End of.

If you ask the owners would they rather pay with money/funds they have or do they write of debt rather than wait 4 years for it and use it in a transfer I think you will find a fairly quick, straight reply.

So other than Stegosaurus and Alcoblade, is there anyone else who needs their head wobbling and some perspective?? I’m here all afternoon.

But Ramsdale would have gone somewhere else and we'd have received several million in sell on fees

 

[JS Blade]

Don’t forget he didn’t cost us £18m. He was practically free, because Bournemouth owed us some money. Ask JS Blade.

He wasn’t free Alcoblade. Your doing it again. Read the posts! It’s what a forums for, unless I need to explain that to you as well!?

Oh dear. Oh dear.

We recouped debt owed to us from a previous sale within a transfer meaning at the time we paid out less than the full amount.

Wheeling and dealing when your not in a position to command transfers, like Chris Wilder said himself. More than once. You really don’t know your club.

And before you say it... you read the paper and play football manager and talk with old men at work .... majority of the cheaper goalkeepers proven at that level wanted wages we cannot afford.

I honestly thought I could weigh in on some decent debates when I joined this forum. Not educate people at weekends.

 

[alcoblade]

But Ramsdale would have gone somewhere else and we'd have received several million in sell on fees

It’s not difficult, is it?

But apparently our cash flow problems mean we bought a keeper we didn’t want.

 

[JS Blade]

But Ramsdale would have gone somewhere else and we'd have received several million in sell on fees

No he wouldn’t because every other club in the premier league didn’t want him. That’s why Aston Villa didn’t price us out like usual with every other target.

Therefore there wouldn’t have been big sell on percentages coming our way. I like the alternative view though.

 

[yorkshirecoast]

So, let me get this clear. We paid over the odds for a keeper who clearly isn’t good enough, but because some of his ludicrous fee was offset by the money Bournemouth owed us for Brooks, it was a good deal?

 

[Snowflake]

I suspect we might have won a few more games, that’s all. And we’d be in with a shout of staying up now, as a result.

But I’m certain that’s known for certain is that he’s a much better keeper than Ramsdale - that was surely crowed from the off.

And that aside, for £18m, we could and should have bought a much better keeper.

I don’t know of one who was available who at the time would have been considered better.
Wasn’t Ramsdale the player of the year for Bournemouth ?

 

[alcoblade]

I don’t know of one who was available who at the time would have been considered better.
Wasn’t Ramsdale the player of the year for Bournemouth ?

You could well be right on that - I don’t have any sort of knowledge about available keepers. What’s clear is that;

We’ve heavily overpaid.

He’s not up to the job right now.

 

[JS Blade]

So, let me get this clear. We paid over the odds for a keeper who clearly isn’t good enough, but because some of his ludicrous fee was offset by the money Bournemouth owed us for Brooks, it was a good deal?

Your not far off, kind of on the right track but with slight over exaggeration.

We paid on the odds for an overrated keeper with time on his side but at the time the deal helped the club who are financially in a league slightly above them.

 

[Snowflake]

You could well be right on that - I don’t have any sort of knowledge about available keepers. What’s clear is that;

We’ve heavily overpaid.

He’s not up to the job right now.

Hindsight is often better than reality but I doubt Foderingham is any better

 

[northsomersetblade]

I don’t know of one who was available who at the time would have been considered better.
Wasn’t Ramsdale the player of the year for Bournemouth ?

Yes

He must have some ability in there somewhere

Ramsdale Your Player of the Year

Aaron Ramsdale wins the public vote to be named 2019/20 AFC Bournemouth Supporters' Player of the Year.

www.afcb.co.uk

 

[alcoblade]

Hindsight is often better than reality but I doubt Foderingham is any better

So do I. It looks like we’ve done a number of bad deals. The Ramsdale one being on a league if it’s own, unfortunately.

 

[Working Class Hero]

Yes

He must have some ability in there somewhere

Ramsdale Your Player of the Year

Aaron Ramsdale wins the public vote to be named 2019/20 AFC Bournemouth Supporters' Player of the Year.

www.afcb.co.uk

"Ramsdale has impressed with his shot stopping, defensive leadership skills and ability from crosses"

Is that just a lie or have we signed a different kid?

 

[yorkshirecoast]

"Ramsdale has impressed with his shot stopping, defensive leadership skills and ability from crosses"

Is that just a lie or have we signed a different kid?

That’s got to be a piss take surely. Gallows humour after getting relegated maybe.

 

[N20 Blade]

He wasn’t free Alcoblade. Your doing it again. Read the posts! It’s what a forums for, unless I need to explain that to you as well!?

Oh dear. Oh dear.

We recouped debt owed to us from a previous sale within a transfer meaning at the time we paid out less than the full amount.

Wheeling and dealing when your not in a position to command transfers, like Chris Wilder said himself. More than once. You really don’t know your club.

And before you say it... you read the paper and play football manager and talk with old men at work .... majority of the cheaper goalkeepers proven at that level wanted wages we cannot afford.

I honestly thought I could weigh in on some decent debates when I joined this forum. Not educate people at weekends.

You’re not your...

 

[yorkshirecoast]

You’re not your...

Leave him alone. He’s educating us apparently.

 

[N20 Blade]

It clearly does make sense. Hence why the decision was made by the club. Straight after already paying out £50m for ownership. When as I have said the owner is not wealthy enough to back a premier league club.

Clearly your struggling to come to terms with the fact that we were priced out of other goalkeepers (Before it gets mentioned I am not saying they are not superior) and the one we signed suited the club. End of.

If you ask the owners would they rather pay with money/funds they have or do they write of debt rather than wait 4 years for it and use it in a transfer I think you will find a fairly quick, straight reply.

So other than Stegosaurus and Alcoblade, is there anyone else who needs their head wobbling and some perspective?? I’m here all afternoon.

You’re not your...

 

[Revolution]

Yes

He must have some ability in there somewhere

Ramsdale Your Player of the Year

Aaron Ramsdale wins the public vote to be named 2019/20 AFC Bournemouth Supporters' Player of the Year.

www.afcb.co.uk

Tallest dwarf. Someone’s got to win.

 

[bakeblade]

No he wouldn’t because every other club in the premier league didn’t want him. That’s why Aston Villa didn’t price us out like usual with every other target.

Therefore there wouldn’t have been big sell on percentages coming our way. I like the alternative view though.

I seem to remember there were a few clubs in for him based on his good season with bournemouth and age/potential. So I reckon it's odds on someone would have signed him. It would probably been as a backup keeper though.

 

[JS Blade]

I seem to remember there were a few clubs in for him based on his good season with bournemouth and age/potential. So I reckon it's odds on someone would have signed him. It would probably been as a backup keeper though.

Doubt it.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Think people need to chill out and take a step back with this bashing of a player who pulls on the red and white stripes. Fair enough he deserved some criticism but this some of it is way way over the top.
At the time of signing him nobody really questioned it, young keeper who just got player of the year at his club at a price you would expect in the premier league.
We paid nowhere near the 18m for him, yes he has had an incredibly difficult season but it seems like he’s taking all the flack instead of the players in front of him. We have the ball away twice yesterday in the space of 5 seconds on the edge of our box. Yes he should have done better with the shot but he has been over exposed by our poor defence this season.
Everyone keeps banging on about Henderson but I honestly believe it was the defence last season that stopped Henderson being exposed as much as what ramsdale is. His confidence is shot and United fans tearing strips off him isn’t going to help.