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... he needed so many "early day motion"'s ;)

TWO South Yorkshire MPs claimed the maximum £400 allowance for food every month last year, it has been revealed.
Barnsley West and Penistone MP Michael Clapham and Barnsley Central MP Eric Illsley were among 32 MPs who claimed the full £4,800 allowance during 2007/08.

The allowance is intended to support MPs while they are away from their main residence, typically for 150 days a year when the Commons is sitting.

It can be spent on restaurant meals or at supermarkets, although not on alcohol.

Both Mr Illsley and Mr Clapham claimed the money through the entire year, including when the Commons was not sitting, which was still within the rules.

Mr Clapham today defended his claims, saying he was forced to spend a large amount of time in London last summer.

He told The Star: "We normally come down in August and we do some of the decorating down here. At the same time, particularly last year, I had a number of meetings in the summer to do with Vibration White Finger and brought miners down here.

"You cannot buy many meals outside Westminster for less than £20."

Mr Illsley was unavailable for comment.

The generous food allowance was on top of a backbench MP's basic salary of £64,766 and was paid out only "for expenses wholly, exclusively and necessarily incurred" by MPs "when staying overnight away from their main UK residence...for the purpose of performing Parliamentary duties".

MPs have not needed to provide receipts to back up their claims for food.

But the allowance was scrapped last April and replaced with a flat-rate sum of £25 "for any night which a member spends away from his or her main home on parliamentary business".

More than a million receipts were yesterday finally released on to the Parliament website after weeks of highly damaging revelations in the media.

However, a major row broke out as it became clear that masses of information had been blacked out.

The online publication excludes all rejected claims and addresses, disguising the extent to which politicians used the "flipping" tactic to redesignate their second homes to maximise their income.

Heather Brooke, a freedom of information campaigner who has spent five years fighting for the details of MPs' expenses to be revealed, said: "I have seen some original documents and I can say avoiding embarrassment has been the key motivating factor in what has been deleted."

Mr Illsley was unavailable for comment.

Interesting, he was fully available to comment on the Iain Hume incident, despite having openly admitting to having not even seen it :)
 

oh and I almost forgot...

Eric Illsley, the Labour MP for Barnsley Central, is thought to have made the highest phantom claim – recouping more than £6,000 over his actual council tax bills since 2004.

He has claimed over £10,000 for council tax in four years although he was charged £3,966 for his Band C property in Lambeth, south London. He regularly submitted claims for £200 a month – below the then £250 limit for submitting receipts.
 
Ahh, good to see my mate Eric back in the news.

Here's an e-mail exchange I had with him around the time of the Morgan affair.




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From: ME
Sent: 05 December 2008 16:42
To: ILLSLEY, Eric
Cc: BROWN, Nick
Subject: Labour MP. Nothing better to do?


Dear Sir,

It is with some interest, and not a little displeasure, that I see you have raised an EDM regarding the incident involving Ian Hulme and a Sheffield United player in a Championship football match last month. Have you really nothing better to do with your time than cheap publicity stunts for your constituents?
I suggest that if you cannot think of better things to spend your time and effort on then you are wasting the tax payers money in being an MP at all. May I suggest the Chiltern Hundreds and let someone who cares about this country and the efforts of its people take a turn in the House.

I have sent a copy of this e-mail to Mr Nick Brown in the hope that the Chief Whip can shed some light as to why, with the country in recession, house prices falling, unemployment on the increase (noticibly in South Yorkshire), our troops engaged in both Iraq and Afghanistan, fuel prices rocketing and the appalling Tories in the lead in the opinion polls you are more interested in football. Is that the best Labour can now offer the country?

Best Regards
ME

Dear Sir

I refer to your rather childish and petulant email accusing me of having nothing better to do with my time and wasting taxpayers money. I disagree and would point out that you know nothing of what I do in Parliament for my constituents and are in no position whatever to criticise me let alone go running to the chief whip like a schoolyard nark. Who do you think you are? You may be relieved to know that my inbox has a sufficiently large number of emails from my constituents congratulating me on the stance I have taken at the request of Barnsley Football Club. Don't send me anymore of this crap.

Eric Illsley LLB MP


Note the e-mail address [email protected] should you wish to congratulate him on his latest headlines (I know I did).
 
Dingle MP who criticised Chris Morgan in House of Commons

pleading guilty to fiddling expenses.:) Expect a prison sentence. Schadenfreude. Rot in jail you hypocritical scumbag; ;)
 
Can you post the responses you got from him. I seem to remember them being rather amusing.

I got back in touch with him today.

From: John Phelan
Subject: Fw: RE: As someone who pays your salary...
To: [email protected]
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 2:31 PM

Dr Mr Illsley,

Youll see that in our previous communication (below) you said "I will be the judge of what I do in Parliament"

I see in the papers today that it is, in fact, an actual judge who will be the judge of what you did in Parliament.

Yours vindicatedly

John Phelan


--- On Tue, 12/9/08, John Phelan <[email protected]> wrote:

From: John Phelan <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: As someone who pays your salary...
To: "ILLSLEY, Eric" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:49 PM
My taxes pay your wages, I am your employer.

Ive seen your record on theyworkforyou.co.uk, I have a very clear idea what you do in Parliament.

Yours accessibly,

John Phelan (taxpayer)

--- On Tue, 12/9/08, ILLSLEY, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
From: ILLSLEY, Eric <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: As someone who pays your salary...
To: John Phelan
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:12 PM
Dear Mr Phelan

I repeat - I will be the judge of what I do in Parliament - You are not my employer and do not keep kidding yourself that you are. Like I said before you have have no idea what I do in Parliament so stop deluding yourself that I spend all my time "dedicating my time to football". Do not send me anymore emails.

Eric Illsley Ll.B MP

________________________________________
From: John Phelan
Sent: 09 December 2008 17:33
To: ILLSLEY, Eric
Subject: RE: As someone who pays your salary...
Sorry, but you said "I will be the judge of what I do in Parliament". Actually, it is the voters, people like me, your employers, who will judge you come election time.

Burke said "Your representative owes you, not his industry only, but his judgment". Now, if you keep wasting your time with cheap stunts like this, I dont imagine the newly jobless or homeless will be too impressed with the judgement you owe them under the Burkean ideal when you tell them youve been dedicating your time to local football.

Yours accountably,

John Phelan (taxpayer)


--- On Tue, 12/9/08, ILLSLEY, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
From: ILLSLEY, Eric <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: As someone who pays your salary...
To: John Phelan
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 5:00 PM
Dear Mr Phelan

The Electors are the judge of who they send to Parliament. What a Member of parliament does was encapsulated in a speech Made by Edmund Burke MP in his "Address to the electors of Bristol" in the 18th Century. This is regarded as the authority on the subject and states quite clearly that an elected Member of Parlament cannot be delegated or required to vote or act in any particular way by anyone.

Eric Illsley MP
________________________________________
From: John Phelan
Sent: 09 December 2008 15:28
To: ILLSLEY, Eric
Subject: RE: As someone who pays your salary...
"I will be the judge of what I do in Parliament"

Im sorry, aren't the voters supposed to be the judge?

Yours democratically,

John Phelan (taxpayer)


--- On Tue, 12/9/08, ILLSLEY, Eric <[email protected]> wrote:
From: ILLSLEY, Eric <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: As someone who pays your salary...
To: John Phelan
Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 3:23 PM
Dear Mr Phelan

I will be the judge of what I do in Parliament and whether it is relevant not you. You have not got a clue as to what I do in Parliament or the time that I devote to it so keep your parsimoious, childish rants to yourself.

Eric Illsley MP




________________________________________
From: John Phelan
Sent: 09 December 2008 14:43
To: ILLSLEY, Eric
Subject: As someone who pays your salary...
Dear Sir,

As someone who pays your salary I find it rather disappointing that you are raising an Early Day Motion regarding an incident in the recent football match between Barnsley and Sheffield United.

This may have passed you by but the global economy is currently in the grip of its gravest crisis since the 1930’s. Unemployment is up. GDP is down. Government borrowing and reposessions are going through the roof. High street names like Wollworths and MFI face bankruptcy. Our soldiers are still in Iraq and face a worsening situation in Afghanistan. We have horrendous stories of crimes committed against the most vulnerable in our society and issues raised by these as to the current state of our social services.

Given this set of challenging circumstances it is frankly beyond belief that you are wasting your own, and Parliaments time, in striking some macho 'man of the people' pose in front of your constituents.

I have absoluetly no issue with you wasting your own time. But as a voter and taxpaying member of the public, by extension one of your 50 odd million bosses, I wish you would focus on the momentous job in hand rather than grubbing around for a few votes. If I spent my time wasting my employers resources on things that are utterly irrelevant to the job Im employed to do, I would expect a telling off. Consider this yours.

Its not what I pay you for so Id ask you to stop it.

Yours sincerely,

John Phelan (taxpayer)
 

LOL Looks like we were all at it. I sent a letter to his co-conspirator Mick Clapham my MP at the time expressing concern at his lack of concern for his constituent Chris Morgan and his family. I received a similar rebuke/reply to you both. Clapham has now retired as an MP. Just as well 'cos I am a Labour party member in his constituency
 
What a disgusting man he is.

I don't know what gives him the right to think that he makes the decisions on what gets to parliament.

He could've simply given the brush off by saying that a large number of his constituency requested action on what they thought was an important matter or something like that instead of the arrogant response.
 
What a disgusting man he is.

I don't know what gives him the right to think that he makes the decisions on what gets to parliament.

He could've simply given the brush off by saying that a large number of his constituency requested action on what they thought was an important matter or something like that instead of the arrogant response.

That'd require someone from Barnsley having intellegence. That's a bit ambitious.
 
Oh, it's him. The headline on the Guardian website "proud Yorkshireman caught up in MPs' expenses scandal" caught my eye earlier but I hadn't made the connection.

I'm not sure why but the sentence "(he) professes a passion for caravanning" made me hope he went to prison before I even knew he was the one involved in the Morgan thing.

I see in the papers today that it is, in fact, an actual judge who will be the judge of what you did in Parliament.

Haha! Quality mate! I hope he responds to you.
 
To be fair, judging by the size of the pie muncher, he must have some very large and very legitimate claims for food.

UTB
 
What a fantastic thread this is and what a bloody marvellous email you sent walthy. I would hope he would get at least 5 years, however 6 months is probably more realistic.
 
this guy reminds me of one of the characters from the tv series brass,doing fuck all for a living and getting rich on the backs of the workers,just another case of a lump of lard fiddling the system,thats why this country is in such a state
 
I think hell get what the other one, Chaytor, got, about 18 months. That means a by election I think.

It's pretty certain he'll get at least 12 months - I think the judge may want to send a message (that these crimes make him unfit to serve as an MP) and therefore give a sentence which would disqualify him automatically.
 
Illsley has apologised to his constituents, saying he "deeply regretted" his actions.

Love that quote. Only regrets it because he's been caught with his nose in the trough. If he'd not been caught he'd still be doing it. Throw the book at the fat greedy bastard. And the rest of them for that matter.Why should I have my arse taxed off to pay for these pigs to have a better life?
 

Illsley has apologised to his constituents, saying he "deeply regretted" his actions.

Love that quote. Only regrets it because he's been caught with his nose in the trough. If he'd not been caught he'd still be doing it. Throw the book at the fat greedy bastard. And the rest of them for that matter.Why should I have my arse taxed off to pay for these pigs to have a better life?

Did he saying anything about deeply regretting the fact he's claimed to be innocent right up until the last minute?
 

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