#LetFansIn

[bypassblade]

So far we've had Eat out to Help out
Then it's get the students back to university
And let's try a 10pm curfew in pubs.

During this time infections have skyrocketed 14,500 yesterday and deaths will increase allowing fans into football sadly is an "appetite for disaster" mind you that'll suit Boris n Roses and Slash Hancock..

 

[Ted Danson]

So far we've had Eat out to Help out
Then it's get the students back to university
And let's try a 10pm curfew in pubs.

During this time infections have skyrocketed 14,500 yesterday and deaths will increase allowing fans into football sadly is an "appetite for disaster" mind you that'll suit Boris n Roses and Slash Hancock..

But all those activities are indoors, footy would be outside, you could also correlate the rise in positive tests to the rise in mask wearing.

then we get back to the fact the case stats are nonsense and deaths really arnt rising in any abnormal way and not inline with the scaremongering case numbers

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

When footballers are testing positive, when clubs are unable to field their full strength XI,
they'll be clamouring to halt the EPL. This will happen sooner rather than later, more so now that
players are testing positive whilst away on international duty.

 

[bypassblade]

But all those activities are indoors, footy would be outside, you could also correlate the rise in positive tests to the rise in mask wearing.

then we get back to the fact the case stats are nonsense and deaths really arnt rising in any abnormal way and not inline with the scaremongering case numbers

Ted I understand what you're saying but it can still spread in a stadium, 3 weeks ago there were 3 deaths a day 76 yesterday average is about 55 ?? There are more than 3k in hospitals when shielding ended I went to Asda 3 times with our lass, told her already I'm not leaving home for owt I like this living lark.

There are too many "cupid stunts" in this country and I'm not jeopardising everything I've done to stay safe.

Deaths are always a couple of weeks behind cases I'm just amazed folk won't accept it's real try telling nearly 50k who've lost a loved one it's a con.

 

[Ted Danson]

When footballers are testing positive, when clubs are unable to field their full strength XI,
they'll be clamouring to halt the EPL. This will happen sooner rather than later, more so now that
players are testing positive whilst away on international duty.

Mane was out last week but never heard any murmurings then

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Mane was out last week but never heard any murmurings then

One player, who in truth, Liverpool could easily replace without losing a great deal of quality.
Though the 7-2 doesn't make my case very strong!

If any SUFC player away on international duty this week, shows signs or has to quarantine,
then they'll be out for up to a fortnight. If Ramsdale, Stevens, Egan, Fleck, Burke, McBurnie are unfortunate,
who would Wilder replace them with against Fulham?

I just get the feeling that admitting supporters into stadiums at the moment will be down the list of important issues
for all of the EPL clubs.

 

[Ted Danson]

Ted I understand what you're saying but it can still spread in a stadium, 3 weeks ago there were 3 deaths a day 76 yesterday average is about 55 ?? There are more than 3k in hospitals when shielding ended I went to Asda 3 times with our lass, told her already I'm not leaving home for owt I like this living lark.

There are too many "cupid stunts" in this country and I'm not jeopardising everything I've done to stay safe.

Deaths are always a couple of weeks behind cases I'm just amazed folk won't accept it's real try telling nearly 50k who've lost a loved one it's a con.

We could have this discussion about many infectious diseases though. Its a sad fact of life that everyone dies of something and these numbers dont add up for it to be that bad that we should be shutting down the country. What do we tell the thousands of relatives of cancer patients and patients with heart disease who've died from lack of care due to covid restrictions?

It was downgraded from a High consequence infectious disease back in March and the WHO have recently adjusted the mortality rate and it compares to an average to mild flu so I dont see any need to treat it differently:

High consequence infectious diseases (HCID)

Guidance and information about high consequence infectious diseases and their management in England.

www.gov.uk

Anyway I've had this discussion over and over in the Covid thread but just wanted to point out that going to the footy would be safer than those examples you mentioned

 

[Ted Danson]

One player, who in truth, Liverpool could easily replace without losing a great deal of quality.
Though the 7-2 doesn't make my case very strong!

If any SUFC player away on international duty this week, shows signs or has to quarantine,
then they'll be out for up to a fortnight. If Ramsdale, Stevens, Egan, Fleck, Burke, McBurnie are unfortunate,
who would Wilder replace them with against Fulham?

I just get the feeling that admitting supporters into stadiums at the moment will be down the list of important issues
for all of the EPL clubs.

I do agree with you just never heard any mention of it regarding Mane which did actually surprise me.

Thing is if we lost players the Prem wouldnt care, if Man U or Liverpool lost players then they can easily replace them.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

I do agree with you just never heard any mention of it regarding Mane which did actually surprise me.

Thing is if we lost players the Prem wouldnt care, if Man U or Liverpool lost players then they can easily replace them.

Matches here are being forfeited due to C19.
The club affected loses 0-3, albeit both are in the Cup.
Supporters of SUFC and other clubs won't stand for this happening, I'd not want my team to have the option of
forfeiting or fielding a severely weakened XI. I'm not sure of what the rules are as regards Pubs/Cafes/Restaurants
in Sheffield and what they are expected to follow, but here, it's just got a lot more stricter in certain areas.

On an even more negative note, i'd fully expect this season to be zero attendances, in the SPL and the EPL/Championship.

If that happens, we can say goodbye to a number of clubs.

 

[Yogi]

Whilst it’s not football it’s worth noting football as an elite sport doesn’t exist in a bubble and sale sharks have just had to forfeit a match after a second postponement due to covid. Elite sport is going to come under increased scrutiny in the coming weeks.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Ridiculous that some things (pub, cinema etc) are allowed and not football. Those that want to stay away, can do.

The issue isn't what is or isn't open, the issue is whether people, whilst attending pubs, cinemas etc., adhere to the guidelines.

If people could be trusted to do that, everything would be open.

But they can't be trusted.

Can they?

 

[AWetFlannel]

The issue isn't what is or isn't open, the issue is whether people, whilst attending pubs, cinemas etc., adhere to the guidelines.

If people could be trusted to do that, everything would be open.

But they can't be trusted.

Can they?

But if the issue is trust, why are pubs open?

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

But if the issue is trust, why are pubs open?

I think you have to give people the benefit of the doubt first. Sadly, some pubs and some clientele fail the test.

Mrs BoSS and I went to Malham during the week and went into a pub for a meal for the first time in 6 months.

They had it spot on with adhering to guidelines, as did their customers.

Lister's Arms if anybody is out that way. Can highly recommend it.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

But if the issue is trust, why are pubs open?

Yeah about that

 

[s4-blade]

There's too many people to reply to, so I'm not going to bother.

I'm just disappointed how little people seem to care for others, how little they value human life and how avoidable deaths just seem like a small price to pay to watch a bit of live football.

Awww bless

 

[bypassblade]

What do we tell the thousands of relatives of cancer patients and patients with heart disease who've died from lack of care due to covid restrictions?

I'm one of those as I have CHF (chronic heart failure) and COPD hence my reason for staying in, I've said before I'm only here due to vast medication I'm on, so my relatives fit that description.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

I'm beyond caring any more. I do not believe the risk is proportionate to the restrictions. The data and stats show that though cases are rising, deaths aren't. They're not rising in line with any proportionate statistic or percentage or anything.

Flu and pneumonia are killing more people. 10 times more people than covid, and for the last 10 weeks.

The fear factor has got to you big style.

Influenza and pneumonia are killing more people despite that fact that we have vaccines for flu and pneumonia.

We don't have one for Covid and the huge increase in numbers may translate to higher deaths.

It all depends on whether those that have the virus care enough about those who don't have the virus (vulnerable or not) and if those who don't want the virus do all they can to NOT get it.

If enough people don't care about their fellow human beings by following a few very simple guidelines, they will pass it on, and eventually, no matter how much the vulnerable will try NOT to get it, they may get it.

And they may die.

I hope not.

And I hope you aren't the one to pass this virus on to someone vulnerable.

Not that anyone will know because you'll lie about your name and address to the places you visit where it is required.

Won't you?

By the way. I do have the fear factor.

This virus could kill me if some selfish twot, despite all my precautions, gives it to me.

Fair enough to be afraid?

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Influenza and pneumonia are killing more people despite that fact that we have vaccines for flu and pneumonia.

We don't have one for Covid and the huge increase in numbers may translate to higher deaths.

It all depends on whether those that have the virus care enough about those who don't have the virus (vulnerable or not) and if those who don't want the virus do all they can to NOT get it.

If enough people don't care about their fellow human beings by following a few very simple guidelines, they will pass it on, and eventually, no matter how much the vulnerable will try NOT to get it, they may get it.

And they may die.

I hope not.

And I hope you aren't the one to pass this virus on to someone vulnerable.

Not that anyone will know because you'll lie about your name and address to the places you visit where it is required.

Won't you?

By the way. I do have the fear factor.

This virus could kill me if some selfish twot, despite all my precautions, gives it to me.

Fair enough to be afraid?

We don't have a vaccine for covid but deaths aren't rising. That's despite the huge increase in numbers.

I care about other people. Lots of people. I don't care for the rules and regulations because too many of them simply make no logical sense.

Track and trace with my real name? No chance. Get a text telling me I've got to have 2 weeks off work with no pay? I can't afford that. And the chances of me dying from covid are near nowt. More chance of dying of starvation from not being able to feed my family from not working than dying of covid.

It's simple. If I go to a match or the pub or whatever and you don't want to come into contact with someone who has, don't go to their house. They don't come to you. Better still, don't go out at all.

Let the vast vast majority of people who want to live their lives do so. Without the fear of being judged.

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

We don't have a vaccine for covid but deaths aren't rising. That's despite the huge increase in numbers.

I care about other people. Lots of people. I don't care for the rules and regulations because too many of them simply make no logical sense.

Track and trace with my real name? No chance. Get a text telling me I've got to have 2 weeks off work with no pay? I can't afford that. And the chances of me dying from covid are near nowt. More chance of dying of starvation from not being able to feed my family from not working than dying of covid.

It's simple. If I go to a match or the pub or whatever and you don't want to come into contact with someone who has, don't go to their house. They don't come to you. Better still, don't go out at all.

Let the vast vast majority of people who want to live their lives do so. Without the fear of being judged.

I take your points and in many ways, I understand them, however, are you not the slightest bit concerned that people with your attitude might just pass on the virus (especially if they are asymptomatic) to someone vulnerable?

It would seem that you can go somewhere but if you go there, I can't.

Thanks

By the way. You judge everything the government and the scientists throw at you.

"Judge not lest ye be judged"

 

[raimond]

Bloody hell eh? So many people's opinions are getting so black and white aren't they, it doesn't actually feel like we're talking any more.

'It's a conspiracy, nobody's dying at all, you mugs, get me to the Lane'
'You bastard, you're selfish for even thinking that'
Etc etc it's boring as hell.

Can't it be possible to think it's all very real, it's clearly a complete bastard of a thing and many folk have lost people they love, and livelihoods. There's no winners. And yeah, it'd be lovely to watch the Blades. I'd love to, I'd go, hopefully to nobody's detriment.

But all the denying it bullshit, I don't see where it even comes in. Make a decision, do what you want, but don't bore the arse off the rest of us by spouting bullshit like you know any better than the rest of us do. None of us know what the fuck's going on, that's the whole point.

 

[Treeton Blade]

Yeah about that

Quite staggering on the day Labour question the validity of the 22:00 curfew, the cunts in charge want to take us further backwards.
I would love to see more protests, more anarchy, even the odd politician assassination to get this country back on track, and our freedom restored.

 

[Heffernans tache]

Quite staggering on the day Labour question the validity of the 22:00 curfew, the cunts in charge want to take us further backwards.
I would love to see more protests, more anarchy, even the odd politician assassination to get this country back on track, and our freedom restored.

Guy Fawkes we need you

 

[Sparky The Blade]

except they will be drastic - the virus kills people.

Out of interest - are you in the "at risk category" ?

How about this as a drastic measure - any fan KNOWINGLY going into a ground with COVID or is supposed to be isolating as denoted by track and trace rules to face a criminal charge.

UTB

Not just knowingly, but knowing there is a risk that they could have it. Life time ban from all football matches for me.

Also, fans would have to make their own way there and not use public transport.

If they are only going to let 1 or 2k in and they are spread about the ground then it’s not going to make much of a difference at all to either the atmosphere or finances. Who covers the cost of having to track and trace all these extra people and then trace the folk they come into contact with. We are struggling to test everyone that needs one just now. Do the football clubs pay? Maybe a significant increase in ticket prices so that the people who really want to go cover the additional costs?

In the grand scheme of things football just isn’t that important.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

I'm one of those as I have CHF (chronic heart failure) and COPD hence my reason for staying in, I've said before I'm only here due to vast medication I'm on, so my relatives fit that description.

Please take good care of yourself my friend.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Quite staggering on the day Labour question the validity of the 22:00 curfew, the cunts in charge want to take us further backwards.
I would love to see more protests, more anarchy, even the odd politician assassination to get this country back on track, and our freedom restored.

All those things you love. You don't have to wait for someone else to do them you know. There isn't an application form & recruitment process for anarchy & assassins.
(this post in Memory of Jo Cox)

 

[Flumps]

Not just knowingly, but knowing there is a risk that they could have it. Life time ban from all football matches for me.

Also, fans would have to make their own way there and not use public transport.

If they are only going to let 1 or 2k in and they are spread about the ground then it’s not going to make much of a difference at all to either the atmosphere or finances. Who covers the cost of having to track and trace all these extra people and then trace the folk they come into contact with. We are struggling to test everyone that needs one just now. Do the football clubs pay? Maybe a significant increase in ticket prices so that the people who really want to go cover the additional costs?

In the grand scheme of things football just isn’t that important.

Football isn't that important no, but in the grand scheme of things neither is alot of things.

What I fear people aren't realising is the repercussions of closing the hospitality sector, not just for the people who own and employ, but for us folk who use it.

One could argue the threat posed by job losses and closures of hospitality and other industries is higher than that of the virus to human life. I read on the BBC that an estimated 500k jobs are likely to be lost. If 10% of those affected die due to mental health, suicides, lack of treatments or developing illnesses they can't get treatment for or even homelessness, it will surpass the death toll from the virus.

Now I know that is a little drastic but it has to be taken very very seriously, which it seems now it is being as 'health experts' are beginning to question lockdown measures due to the rise of the above mentioned problems.

The problem isn't straight forward and people were willing to put up with it - when they were getting paid. Now jobs are on the line the desperation is clear as day.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Can't see a return this season, in fact the way trends are going I can see a shutdown of sport and probably a curtailment of this season.

 

[Bartleby]

Think there's maybe three main camps on this.

1 - mainly, but not exclusively, younger/non-vulnerable who say we just want to go totally back to normal as soon as possible. They don't want to put thier lives on hold, they want to go abroad this year not wait till next, want the pubs back to normal and football crowds back to normal NOW. They think they'll be ok or will happily take the risks if they catch it. Anyone who doesn't agree is free to hide themselves away if they don't want to catch it off them.

2 - probably the majority - those in between who don't want to see the above as they care about their vulnerable relatives, are worried about their jobs and so don't want to see us go back to full lockdown, or are maybe a bit at risk but don't want to have to totally lock themselves away due to group 1 spreading the virus

3 - those who are vulnerable and scared (or just cautious and scared)

If group 1 gets their way groups 2 & 3 are probably fucked

 

[bartman]

I think you have to give people the benefit of the doubt first. Sadly, some pubs and some clientele fail the test.

Mrs BoSS and I went to Malham during the week and went into a pub for a meal for the first time in 6 months.

They had it spot on with adhering to guidelines, as did their customers.

Lister's Arms if anybody is out that way. Can highly recommend it.

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I bet Mrs BoSS wasnt driving

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

The thing is, you have to turn this on it's head. Go 180. People who are wearing masks, socially distancing, staying home, adapting, being flexible. They're not scared. They're not living in fear. They're using the only weapons we have in this game. They're the brave. Taking one for the team. Having their mates backs. Getting their round in. Staying the course. Lasting the distance. Ducking. Diving. Getting it done.