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I admire your optimism and also have said all season we'd finish top 10 never once have I considered going down (said it publicly on here) but, if you'd seen us in 74/5 1994/95 or 2007 then you may give a fuck about what happened. The hardest one to take was obviously the 75 one as it signalled a major decline in our wonderful club but we have come back, not sure what happened 4 years ago tho.

You have to understand that Blades fans are the kind that until they see that something is impossible will they believe it, we've seen too many false dawns and I understand your point entirely but I also understand theirs also.

I'd love to see us qualify for Europe by our league position but FA cup would be nice, we won't go down but we do have glass half full attitude with our fans (also best fans in world I add). I was with old friends last night and we were saying how it's typical that we're old and crinkly and Blades producing best stuff ever, by the same token fans my age and older have had to endure the very, very lean years, enjoy now but never dismiss our past it's what has shaped and defined us.

Excellent post,

I didn’t want to waffle on to much in the OP so let me explain my disregard for the past, because I certainly didn’t intend to disrespect the history of our club.

74/5 I was too young and emotionally immature to understand but the other seasons I felt the pain. I mentioned 4 years ago because that’s where the journey we are currently on started, just to make the point that good or bad, it’s the past and its gone.

Why don’t I care; because I can’t change it or control it. I’m just a normal bloke with family, bills, and work problems to think about, I can control these, so this is what I worry about.

I go to the Lane, stand in the Kop and give it 100% for 90 minutes, powering positivity into the team and negativity into the opposition with every word and gesture. I then go home, euphoric or gutted, and get on with the rest of my life, until next week. That’s what I can do, so that’s what I do.

If the lean times do return, I will feel the pain again, but I won’t be negative now because we were shit in the past. I’m 100% confident that CWAK and the back room staff, who have put us were we are today are doing all the worrying for me.

Maybe I’m not a typical Blades fan, being so optimistic but that’s my outlook on life and its not changing anytime soon.
 
Which pub?

Asking as a Rugby resident..
Cannot remember the name but it was down lower Hillmorton Road heading away from town. It was on the left just after a few shops.
What road do you live on? I remember going to a new year party at the home of a Blade?
My wife worked with a friend of the people whose house the party was held at.
 
Cannot remember the name but it was down lower Hillmorton Road heading away from town. It was on the left just after a few shops.
What road do you live on? I remember going to a new year party at the home of a Blade?
My wife worked with a friend of the people whose house the party was held at.
That’ll be the Jolly Abbott then.. a short walk from our house. Not a great pub now, truth be told.

Small World.
 
One of the January signings is probably third-party owned, there'll be an FA Commission and we'll be docked 21 points.
 
We have got to where we are in the league 5th to 8th generally with the same squad, we have just added three very good players and lost none of our main players, now remind me what the question was
 
Maximum points achievable from the current bottom 3:
I'll caveat this with the fact they'd need to get 3 points from 13 straight games to achieve these....


18. West Ham - Max points - 63
19. Watford - Max Points - 62
20. Norwich - Max Points 57
 
There is a big difference between gloom and realism. It is literally not true that we are safe, and no sport is concluded in advance. Complacency is not a good frame of mind for the participants, and realism is a good defence mechanism for fans. Those who have been through a succession of failures, many of them improbable, over many years, have experienced a heightened sense of joy at the experience of the Wilder years; I suspect that the majority of those who peddle gloom on here (after Liverpool away, or slagging off individual players) are those who don't factor in the possibility of failure. As the saying goes, it's the hope that kills you.
We are not safe from relegation (there, I've said it), and I am thoroughly enjoying this magnificent season.

Bravo my blades brother......Bravo!

As Chris Wilder said himself.... "We haven't won the privilege to stay in this league, until it is mathematically done. And if we get to that point, which we will be doing everything within our powers to get to that point, then nothing at all changes. Our mindset will never change, we are here to win games of football. None of us are paid to do otherwise. Rome wasn't built in a day....we take every game as it comes and we look to win it......It's as simple as that".
 
Although it’s unlikely we go down it’s still not for sure, even if it’s remote

Until it’s mathematically done and we are fine then I’m going to be checking over my shoulder
 
Bravo my blades brother......Bravo!

As Chris Wilder said himself.... "We haven't won the privilege to stay in this league, until it is mathematically done. And if we get to that point, which we will be doing everything within our powers to get to that point, then nothing at all changes. Our mindset will never change, we are here to win games of football. None of us are paid to do otherwise. Rome wasn't built in a day....we take every game as it comes and we look to win it......It's as simple as that".

Isn’t that more or less what I’m saying in the OP and the follow up #95.

Apart from me considering us safe and many others thinking we’re not, but that’s a state of mind and not fact based so we’ll never agree.

Do what you can, trust that others are doing what you can’t and take every game as it comes with no regard for the past or future.
 
Although it’s unlikely we go down it’s still not for sure, even if it’s remote

Until it’s mathematically done and we are fine then I’m going to be checking over my shoulder

It's a long way down that. I think we are surely past that stage now and are looking upwards?
 

It's a long way down that. I think we are surely past that stage now and are looking upwards?

You are probably right, however we are not a team that kills other teams off at moment, points wise we could easily lose several with some bad luck/injuries or a few Newcastle style games

Sure the amount of other teams below needing to win is in our favour however until it’s done
 
You are probably right, however we are not a team that kills other teams off at moment, points wise we could easily lose several with some bad luck/injuries or a few Newcastle style games

Sure the amount of other teams below needing to win is in our favour however until it’s done

We don't have to kill teams off, 1 goal is suffice. Our defence is like an Anaconda squeezing the life out of a Tapir

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There is a bit of quite simple maths here

United have 36 points from 25 games
lets just say we cant keep that up and get only 9 points from the next 13 games - so we end up on 45 points.

To get to that total, Crystal Palace have to gain 15 points on us, or basically gather the same points per match they have done so far....Thats if we totally fuck up compared to past performances.
And Palace are nowhere near the bottom 3.
 
Forget about staying up.....Wilder is now targeting Europe....so there’s still pressure to win.

The question has been asked before if low fan expectation and expecting the worse has a detrimental effect on the players.
I’ve been to our Wembley games and pre match Ive heard our fans say they’re only here for the piss up because they know we’ll lose.

I always think of Liverpool when they might have lost the 1st leg away against a Real Madrid or a Barcelona.
Their fans always seem ultra confident they will beat any team in the world at Anfield in the 2nd leg....there is massive expectation and they always deliver.

Positive thinking plays a massive role in sport....some of that positive thinking starts with the fans...as it helps create a club culture.
PS This is not a criticism of our fans because we’ve been kicked in the teeth so often and bare psychological scars.

Trepidation is an emotion that is a hangover of past reality.

However, I would argue that there’s a lot of positivity around the fans. Consider the current mood vs the divided fan base under Clough, Adams, Weir, Adkins and McCabe as well as Ched and Tevez.

And now buying quality not selling it, looking up and not down and S6 in meltdown
 
Excellent post,

I didn’t want to waffle on to much in the OP so let me explain my disregard for the past, because I certainly didn’t intend to disrespect the history of our club.
Good reply as you know it's never been easy following United but you don't disrespect them I'm just saying never forget, I know you'll give them full support as fans always do. We stand on the brink of something big and we have to believe I feel there are good times ahead, I'm hoping we can push on now and establish ourselves.
 
The points we have right now would have been enough to keep us up on 3 out of the last 4 seasons in the premier league. On the one occasion it wouldnt have, Newcastle were relegated on 37 points..I know every season is different but we are going to back quite a few more points before the end of the season.
 
54... Can't believe I spent actual time working this out but it's 54. And almost all teams ended up with 55-57 points.
Cool, just need you to do this after each game until we’re safe so some of the more nervous fans can feel safe.

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Dozens of posts on dozens of threads this week with people still worrying about getting to 40 points.

FFS discard the gloom.

I don’t give a fuck what happened in 1975, 1994, 2007 or 4 years ago.

I’m living for now and enjoying every moment.

This is different; we are in the Premier League and have made a clear statement that we intend staying here for a long time. Forget about the 4 points we need to avoid relegation.

We win convincingly when its easy, we grind out a result when its hard and we put in solid performances against billion pound teams.

You should be learning the words to Abide With Me and making sure your passports are up to date, not worrying about getting 4 points from 13 games.

The future is red and white, the future is now.


Nice words indeed, waiting till now to say them speaks volumes mate ..
 
Can't wait to reach the FA Cup Final so people can remind us of 1936. :rolleyes:
Since you ask, my dad missed the 1936 Final because he'd just started work and worked Saturday mornings. The 1930s were not a good time to just take a day off. For the rest of his working life he took a week's holiday to coincide with the Cup Final. He never made it to Wembley. Trivial in the grand scheme of things, but enough to make people cautious, shall we say?
 
45 points minimum.... next few games are 6 pointers ... keep the faith UTBs
 
Since you ask, my dad missed the 1936 Final because he'd just started work and worked Saturday mornings. The 1930s were not a good time to just take a day off. For the rest of his working life he took a week's holiday to coincide with the Cup Final. He never made it to Wembley. Trivial in the grand scheme of things, but enough to make people cautious, shall we say?
Apparently we were very unlucky. Do you know if he got to any of the other games in the cup that year? If I recall correctly, that was the season we set our all time attendance record.
However, on your final sentence, no, it isn't. My post was being sarcastic in the extreme, but you actually just did what I said! Honestly, what is the point of supporting a football team if all you see is the possible failures looming on the horizon?
 
Apparently we were very unlucky. Do you know if he got to any of the other games in the cup that year? If I recall correctly, that was the season we set our all time attendance record.
However, on your final sentence, no, it isn't. My post was being sarcastic in the extreme, but you actually just did what I said! Honestly, what is the point of supporting a football team if all you see is the possible failures looming on the horizon?
He was certainly at the Leeds match when the crowd record was set. And he was a bit young to have got to the 1925 Final.
On your last question, we are all different, and shaped by our experiences and our nature, I guess. I am by nature an optimist, and positive in difficult circumstances (I have been lucky to have had relatively few things to deal with in life). The only areas I find it useful to have the protection of low expectations is politics, where I am invariably on the losing side, and football. I don't only see failures on the horizon, but it is as well to be aware that failure can happen. I was talking today to a Man City fan (a convert about 10 years ago), and he is absolutely fed up with watching them this season. It is as well to bear in mind that there is only one league champion, cup winner and league cup winner each year. If the expectation is a trophy, most fans are going to be disappointed every year. If the hope is to avoid relegation (and to enjoy watching the matches), then you have a chance of 'success'. I wouldn't want that to be the attitude of the manager or the players, but for my entertainment/leisure time, a sense of constant disappointment is not worth it. Setting my sights low makes sense to me, but of course it is each to their own.
I did take your post as humour. And the pessimism/realism around at the moment is largely self-mocking, offering a little self-protection just in case. After all, it is 13 years since... No, I won't go there...
 

Remember when we got promoted to League 1 and then pushed on to get 100 points. No chance of complacency, no chance of relegation, only chance is a potential place in Europe COYRAWFW ;)
 

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