CONFIRMED Jack Robinson incoming

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Hmm - dont know much about Robinson. I agree that if we are to progress in the PL next season we need to do better than a Forest reserve. That onus is on the board for this though, not Wilder (who is doing what he can with a limited budget).

 

[10-0 win]

could easily be a new JOC or Egan, can't spend 10-15 m on covers.

 

[Torrix1889]

11.











The number of fax "jokes" I have read this JTW so far. Stopped being funny circa 2015.

It never was funny....

 

[Booker4]

We've signed many a player who wasn't highly regarded from the fans of the club we've signed a player from. As he's only likely to be cover then its less important than signing a first team regular but who knows, we may actually be pleasantly surprised with how he does when he plays and we are short of cover at both LWB and LCB. It could be worse, we could be signing Wednesday's left back, he is crap - Fox.

 

[Bergen Blade]

Cover for Stevens it is then?

Currently Stevens is the main cover for JOC and Osborn is then the replacement for Stevens at LWB. This can probably work out in some games, but it does weaken us quite a bit physically in two positions.

 

[Berlin Blade]

Am I the only person that thinks this is a great signing?

Yes he isn’t super highly thought of at Forest but so what? John Fleck wasn’t at Coventry either.

What we need from a LCB is VERY different to what other teams need. Here is the criteria:

We need a player physical enough to play CB.

We need a player experienced at LB to bomb on. Ideally a player that’s somewhat an amalgamation if the two positions. As JOC is a very unique role in football.

We need a player with good pedigree but currently below our level, as we can’t offer him a first team role. He came through at Liverpool and plays at Championship level.

We need a player who isn’t coming for a ‘last payday’ and will be hungry to to try and break into the first team and when he does, he wants to take his opportunity.

He ticks all of these boxes. He will also command small wages.

It’s pissing me off that people are moaning about this. It’s such a specific criteria of attributes we need. Would you rather we spent 15 million on another JOC? How long is that gonna last before he gets sour that he isn’t playing? Or that we sell JOC to accommodate this new mega money signing?

This is a perfectly suited signing in my opinion.

 

[Jan Age]

Am I the only person that thinks this is a great signing?

Yes he isn’t super highly thought of at Forest but so what? John Fleck wasn’t at Coventry either.

What we need from a LCB is VERY different to what other teams need. Here is the criteria:

We need a player physical enough to play CB.

We need a player experienced at LB to bomb on. Ideally a player that’s somewhat an amalgamation if the two positions. As JOC is a very unique role in football.

We need a player with good pedigree but currently below our level, as we can’t offer him a first team role. He came through at Liverpool and plays at Championship level.

We need a player who isn’t coming for a ‘last payday’ and will be hungry to to try and break into the first team and when he does, he wants to take his opportunity.

He ticks all of these boxes. He will also command small wages.

It’s pissing me off that people are moaning about this. It’s such a specific criteria of attributes we need. Would you rather we spent 15 million on another JOC? How long is that gonna last before he gets sour that he isn’t playing? Or that we sell JOC to accommodate this new mega money signing?

This is a perfectly suited signing in my opinion.

whilst I wouldn’t disagree. people would like to see improvements on the starting 11 this transfer window. I don’t think this will happen because of all the legal wrangling still going off behind the scenes

The best we can hope for are squad fillers.

the best business was getting a Chris and Knill signed up long term.

forget Europe this year and be happy with mid table (I know I am)

 

[Berlin Blade]

whilst I wouldn’t disagree. people would like to see improvements on the starting 11 this transfer window. I don’t think this will happen because of all the legal wrangling still going off behind the scenes

The best we can hope for are squad fillers.

the best business was getting a Chris and Knill signed up long term.

forget Europe this year and be happy with mid table (I know I am)

I do agree with the ‘better than we already have’ comment in regards to our signings, but I genuinely do think, in terms of JOC, he is the best player in the league at doing his role. Laporte would come in and do that role seamlessly, but I honestly can’t think of anyone else. As we don’t have a spare 70 million lying around we can’t sign him, and perhaps somewhat controversially, I’d rather have Jack given his better injury record and connection to the club.

 

[BushBlade]

whilst I wouldn’t disagree. people would like to see improvements on the starting 11 this transfer window. I don’t think this will happen because of all the legal wrangling still going off behind the scenes

The best we can hope for are squad fillers.

the best business was getting a Chris and Knill signed up long term.

forget Europe this year and be happy with mid table (I know I am)

Forget about legal wrangles, which players could we buy that are even as good as our first 11? Simple maths tell you that we’ve already spent a large proportion of our TV money on transfers and wages. Simple common sense tells you that rated PL players, ones better than the players we have, will be heading to one of the rich six, who have more status and will pay much more than us.

 

[Grappler]

From the Gaffer himself, today.


“I’ve been given a budget to work with, maximise that if I can and If I can’t it’ll roll over into the summer.”

“We’ll certainly have to do business in the summer, it is always about lifting the group, improving the group and moving forward”

Chris Wilder

 

[EddieColquhoun]

.although lets not forget there's a history of similar signings that have turned out shite....Carruthers, Holmes, Heneghan, Thomas, Evans, Bryan......to name a few!

According to CW we made a profit on Leonard and Evans. Bryan has had bad luck with injuries but was an England U20 international who we got on a free.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

From the Gaffer himself, today.


“I’ve been given a budget to work with, maximise that if I can and If I can’t it’ll roll over into the summer.”

“We’ll certainly have to do business in the summer, it is always about lifting the group, improving the group and moving forward”

Chris Wilder

So our manager has a budget which will roll over if he doesn't spend it. Certainly contradicts what the forum know-all tells us.

 

[Upton_Blade]

I know as fans we like to see money being spent and players coming in that we all think is a "great" signing but in all reality how much would it cost to bring in a guaranteed 1st 11 starter based on how well the 1st 11 have performed this season?

I truly believe these types of players are beyond us in this JTW.

If you look at our 1st 11 and the players that are, arguably, performing better this season in their relative positions in the Premier League then you see just how hard and expensive it would be to replace them.

 

[alcoblade]

I know as fans we like to see money being spent and players coming in that we all think is a "great" signing but in all reality how much would it cost to bring in a guaranteed 1st 11 starter based on how well the 1st 11 have performed this season?

I truly believe these types of players are beyond us in this JTW.

If you look at our 1st 11 and the players that are, arguably, performing better this season in their relative positions in the Premier League then you see just how hard and expensive it would be to replace them.

Yep, I’m really not bothered about us signing players this JTW.

It’s an awful time to do business, and very easy to blow money we could have better used at later date.

 

[davidblade]

I have a funny feeling the prince is not impressed with how he spent the summer budget - 40m And not much to show for it.

There’s a strange smell coming from this poster

 

[Collins Morris]

So our manager has a budget which will roll over if he doesn't spend it. Certainly contradicts what the forum know-all tells us.

So start of the window Chris wilder says we have a budget that he's happy with
Rodwell and a 3rd choice forest CB
Now he's saying he's happy to sit on what he's got
JOC off to spurs
Then we will spend
But no one wanted to belive me when I said the Prince isn't spending this window

20 million budget people said
So we have gone from signing Bowen or Watkins to these to
10 days to go and counting

 

[Bladeinleeds]

It is underwhelming, but it looks like a cheap squad filler. Bryan out, Robinson in. Don't see the problem. I wouldn't pay anywhere near 1 mill though for an out of favour player with 6 months on his contract.

honestly - what’s the issue.

better quality back up than Bryan is and it will allow him to go out on loan and get some games. That’s the only way we are gonna find out if we have a player or not in KB

 

[robbiez666]

Firstly, it often takes months for players to be good enough to fit into the way we play. That's both fitness and knowing their job within the team.

Anyone we sign now is likely to be with an eye on the future. We have to do this. We can't simply afford to sign over-ready replacements for first team players.

Depending on cost, I reckon he's definitely worth perusing. We need cover. I find it's highly unlikely we could sign someone who is good enough to replace JOC who would be prepared to simply be cover. With Bash it's a bit easier due to his age. We need to either bring players through from the Academy or sign and develop young players, whilst keeping our eye out for the odd bargain from abroad.

 

[EddieColquhoun]

There’s a strange smell coming from this poster

 

[Jan Age]

Forget about legal wrangles, which players could we buy that are even as good as our first 11? Simple maths tell you that we’ve already spent a large proportion of our TV money on transfers and wages. Simple common sense tells you that rated PL players, ones better than the players we have, will be heading to one of the rich six, who have more status and will pay much more than us.

I don’t know mate I’m not a manager or a scout but one things for sure we will need to improve to keep moving forward so upgrades will need to arrive but I don’t think it will be this window but deffo next. Simple common sense also tells you that as well

 

[ormester]

I agree we're lacking cover but 3rd choice from a championship team scraping the bottom of the brrel

 

[ormester]

I know as fans we like to see money being spent and players coming in that we all think is a "great" signing but in all reality how much would it cost to bring in a guaranteed 1st 11 starter based on how well the 1st 11 have performed this season?

I truly believe these types of players are beyond us in this JTW.

If you look at our 1st 11 and the players that are, arguably, performing better this season in their relative positions in the Premier League then you see just how hard and expensive it would be to replace them.

The thing is there's some good players overs seas out of contract in the summer

 

[Jan Age]

I do agree with the ‘better than we already have’ comment in regards to our signings, but I genuinely do think, in terms of JOC, he is the best player in the league at doing his role. Laporte would come in and do that role seamlessly, but I honestly can’t think of anyone else. As we don’t have a spare 70 million lying around we can’t sign him, and perhaps somewhat controversially, I’d rather have Jack given his better injury record and connection to the club.

again I would agree but if not now we will certainly need improvements in the summer ... nothing major but 3/4 GK, MD, ST for me

 

[Weatewed]

Am I the only person that thinks this is a great signing?

Yes he isn’t super highly thought of at Forest but so what? John Fleck wasn’t at Coventry either.

What we need from a LCB is VERY different to what other teams need. Here is the criteria:

We need a player physical enough to play CB.

We need a player experienced at LB to bomb on. Ideally a player that’s somewhat an amalgamation if the two positions. As JOC is a very unique role in football.

We need a player with good pedigree but currently below our level, as we can’t offer him a first team role. He came through at Liverpool and plays at Championship level.

We need a player who isn’t coming for a ‘last payday’ and will be hungry to to try and break into the first team and when he does, he wants to take his opportunity.

He ticks all of these boxes. He will also command small wages.

It’s pissing me off that people are moaning about this. It’s such a specific criteria of attributes we need. Would you rather we spent 15 million on another JOC? How long is that gonna last before he gets sour that he isn’t playing? Or that we sell JOC to accommodate this new mega money signing?

This is a perfectly suited signing in my opinion.

Absolutely bang on. This approach also makes total sense in the over inflated January market. I think we need to trust that Wilder and team have thought this through and actually know what they're doing.

 

[Bladezz]

Hmm - dont know much about Robinson. I agree that if we are to progress in the PL next season we need to do better than a Forest reserve. That onus is on the board for this though, not Wilder (who is doing what he can with a limited budget).

I wouldn’t be too downbeat about it. If we sell JoC for say 30m we will be buying another LCB and not using Robinson. He’s here to cover games and to thicken up a squad.

 

[Weasel]

Robinson if he does sign, will do a good job for us.

He's cover until the summer, and ih he does well, he might be asked to stick around. A low cost signing bringing much needed cover and allows us to keep our powder dry for the summer when we can get more bang for our buck.

If CW wants him, that's good enough for me.

 

[Toronto Blade fan]

There’s a strange smell coming from this poster

Quit smelling me.
Sorry, I was just hoping for more. It’s a unique situation we are in. The teams around us are struggling. The core of our team is strong af. I just wanted to see more, in the hopes we can push the top 5. I don’t know how many opportunities we will have with the likes of Spurs, Arsenal, Wolves, etc struggling as they are. Bah... rant over. Thrilled to be sitting in 7th. I’m CWAK we trust.

 

[Bergen Blade]

I just ffw-watched our away defeat to Forest last season, focusing on Robinson's involvements. He had a very solid game, playing as an orthodox left back in a back four. He's about 5'11, rather thin for someone expected to be an option at centre half, but looked a proper defender, aggressive, flew into a couple of tackles and positioned well, almost always getting in the way of crosses. I liked his energy and determination and his pace looked ok, although there weren't too many sprints.

We had made some changes for this game, playing Freeman at RWB, Cranie RCB and Coutts RCM. Those three never managed to offer the same threat/combination play down that side that we've been used to see from Basham, Baldock and A.Nother. Some of that was probably down to Robinson having a very good game defensively, he was rarely troubled. Both Coutts and Freeman ended up getting substituted. He was yellow carded for a very tough tackle on Baldock who came on at the end.

On the ball he did show some neat passes, didn't hesitate and had often made up his mind regarding what he wanted to do with the ball. He misplaced few passes, although most were simple, but there was the odd nice one as well. There was one occasion where he showed a lack of composure, being a bit under pressure and just passed it out of play as he couldn't seem to decide what to do. I'd expected Enda to do better in that situation. There were few attacking contributions, few runs, not many overlaps or crosses. Maybe some of that may have been due to instructions. He was playing behind Lolley, who's an attacking type, who may need someone behind him to take care of the defending, rather than getting forward to support him. He will be asked to take more attacking responsibility if he comes to us. He has a huge throw.

As I said earlier I think Stevens is the current cover for JOC. Osborn would then come in at LWB. This would make us physically weaker in two positions and maybe that's not ideal for us. While not being a giant Robinson would give us more aggression, whether he's played at LCB or LWB. I'm not sure how much he would offer going forward in the latter position though. Long term he may not be big enough for a centre half, but it's harsh to say without having seen him there.

 

[Old Programme seller]

I read somewhere that transfers in the JTW are 25% more expensive compared to summer transfers perhaps the players Chris wanted have been priced out of range also we did spend a lot in the Summer for us at least.

 

[Bladesman]

Hmm - dont know much about Robinson. I agree that if we are to progress in the PL next season we need to do better than a Forest reserve. That onus is on the board for this though, not Wilder (who is doing what he can with a limited budget).

Worth pointing out that JOC was a Business Model FC reserve.