VAR VAR

[CharlotteBlade]

If it’s not broke don’t fix it..... - was it broke ??

 

[Houston_Blade]

5 of us celebrated a goal tonight, then all looked at each other and said it would be offside.

From the once or twice they showed it it looked offside but again wasn’t a ‘clear and obvious error’.

The assist from the ref and the none giving of a drop ball was a ‘clear and obvious error’ so should have been checked and overturned.

Madness.

 

[LarryLargeSwede]

As a start, why don't we all just turn our back on the pitch as soon as they go to a VAR Check.
The TV can drown out the singing, but they will see everyone turn away.
I think it's a far more powerful act. No issues with singing 'F**K VAR' or 'It's not football anymore' as well.

 

[BettingBlade]

Regards offside decisions it should be the most beneficial because it’s a factual decision..not opinion based.
The problem occurs when players are leaning in different positions, so a knee cap or arm pit might be 1cm off side.

My view is that instead of measuring a body part thats offside.....allow a goal if anybody part that can be used to score is on side.
This will mean theres a goal allowed whenever players are level.

It’s not factual when the technology isn’t advanced enough to be 100% accurate though is it?

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

How about someone running down and smashing the fuck out of the VAR screen? I'm sure the club could put out a "we will catch the individual" statement but not do owt. Maybe a member of the backroom staff? Kitman or summat?

 

[Roygbiv]

I really think a big get together to stand outside the VAR room in Stockley Park would be a good statement.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

I didn't realise just how many goals would be chalked off and its largely the marginal offside decisions which are the problem. If the offside rule can be amended to clear daylight or VAR only be allowed to come into play (for offside) if there is an obvious clear error in an offside call then it would work much better, and ref's rarely get decisions wrong to the extent that VAR would come into play anyway. If VAR was used to stop the Maradona type goal it wold be fine.

As it stands I'm just sick of jumping all over the place celebrating a goal only for the VAR screen to come on and ruin it.

Souness suggests that if any part of the body is onside then he's onside. As opposed to any part being off.

Sounds a good idea to me.

All they're doing is causing fewer and fewer goals. That's not what football is about.

All the 20 managers should unite and tell the PL to fuck it off. They have the backing of every single player and fan in the division.

 

[YorkBlade]

 

[norfolkblade]

How about someone running down and smashing the fuck out of the VAR screen? I'm sure the club could put out a "we will catch the individual" statement but not do owt. Maybe a member of the backroom staff? Kitman or summat?

Or someone could just run up to it and turn it on so the ref can use it?

 

[HG1]

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If they make those in “desso green” it could make things interesting. Then again, the VAR team would just carry on guessing where to draw their lines.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Clear and obvious doesn’t apply to offside because it’s not opinion based.
Technology is able to measure a black and white decision.....the current rules say 1 cm offside still means offside.
As I said I think the advantage should be given back to goal scorers...so as long as any body part is onside then it’s a goal.

I am not sure you are correct. You can have a defender running at high speed in one direction, an attacker running at high speed in the opposite direction, perhaps 40 yards away across the pitch, and a ball that is kicked from perhaps fifty yards away. Deciding the precise moment at which a ball ceases to be touching the toe-end of a boot is terribly difficult - if kicked hard, the ball 'caves in', and therefore the contact between ball and boot cannot be visible to an external camera. There comes a point where the level of accuracy is theoretically possible, but so complex it is not worth it. 30 seconds to review it, and stay with original decision if it is not obviously wrong would make more sense. And only have offside applying to the line of the penalty area? Why bother if it is 30 yards from goal? We have to reduce the number of problem cases and the long reviews.

 

[Blade56]

We are the team most adversely affected by VAR at -5 before today so + another 1 (or was it 2 with billy?).

full league....

How VAR decisions affected every Premier League club in 2019-20

We're collating a league table of overturned VAR decisions. Who will benefit most over the course of the Premier League season?

www.espn.co.uk

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

We are the team most adversely affected by VAR at -5 before today so + another 1 (or was it 2 with billy?).
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full league....

How VAR decisions affected every Premier League club in 2019-20

We're collating a league table of overturned VAR decisions. Who will benefit most over the course of the Premier League season?

www.espn.co.uk

I make it -1 for Mousset's offside and -1 for their first goal with the lad from Manchester not stopping the game after assisting with their first goal.

 

[Birdwell Blade]

I’ve been to fewer games this season than I have at this stage of any season in the last 20 years. Two of the home games I’ve been to, I just stayed in the Cricketers til half time.
It’s not just VAR putting me off, it’s football in general lately, but the introduction of VAR is playing a big part.

 

[Carlton Blade]

 

[Carlton Blade]

 

[bromtom]

Why do the media and the league protect the refs so much?

Say anything about them in a presser and you can expect a huge fine and maybe a touchline ban, they have a hard job blah blah blah

Any harder than managing or playing for a Premier League football team? I don't think so really.

If X player is absolutely wank, he gets torn apart from the press, his own fans, his manager occasionally if they have a bit about them, referees, carry on as though nothing ever happened. Delete it from history.

For example, Sky Sports News ticker for Liverpool Wolves

Mané goal initially ruled out for handball in build up but overturned by VAR

Wolves denied equaliser by VAR at Anfield for a marginal offside

Sky sports ticker for us

Aguero and De Bruyne with second half goals in win at Etihad

Man City remain third, Sheffield United in eighth after first away loss of the season.

That's it.

No mention of our goal being ruled out for a stray pube from Mousset being deemed offside, no mention of the referee getting a pre assist or whatever the term is.

If you don't do your job properly you should be punished or sacked.

It's not on anymore, they're not fit to do the jobs they have. It happens every bastard game.

 

[Moosie]

Yeah, but if you draw some lines on it you'll clearly see that it's not over the line!

 

[BettingBlade]

While ever that egotistical cunt Mike Riley is defending his abomination of a version of VAR they will continue to be wrapped in cotton wool.

The buck stops with him.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

They don't actually have a hard job at all as some other cunt does it for them from a cabin in 'Stockley Park'. Wankers.

 

[Groucho Blade]

The simple fact is...you can’t plot 3D coordinates using 2D data.

 

[Bladesman]

Coady: VAR isn't working

Conor Coady wasnt happy following Wolves defeat to Liverpool, stating that VAR isnt working after a handball shout in the build up to the winner wasnt given.

www.skysports.com

 

[bromtom]

Excuse the potato quality but shit like this does make you think it's a conspiracy.

We barely warrant a mention. The ref report for this game will probably mysteriously vanish.
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[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Why do the media and the league protect the refs so much?

Say anything about them in a presser and you can expect a huge fine and maybe a touchline ban, they have a hard job blah blah blah

Any harder than managing or playing for a Premier League football team? I don't think so really.

If X player is absolutely wank, he gets torn apart from the press, his own fans, his manager occasionally if they have a bit about them, referees, carry on as though nothing ever happened. Delete it from history.

For example, Sky Sports News ticker for Liverpool Wolves

Mané goal initially ruled out for handball in build up but overturned by VAR

Wolves denied equaliser by VAR at Anfield for a marginal offside

Sky sports ticker for us

Aguero and De Bruyne with second half goals in win at Etihad

Man City remain third, Sheffield United in eighth after first away loss of the season.

That's it.

No mention of our goal being ruled out for a stray pube from Mousset being deemed offside, no mention of the referee getting a pre assist or whatever the term is.

If you don't do your job properly you should be punished or sacked.

It's not on anymore, they're not fit to do the jobs they have. It happens every bastard game.

You've summed up my thoughts to a tee.

Tell thi what, if even a slight comment gets a fine and a ban, you might as well get full value for money and properly lay into the useless fuckers and their sack of shit VAR.

 

[Blade56]

Loads of online petitions.....

Search · Change.org

www.change.org

 

[TintwistleS2]

If u sing it can be altered but walking out at an A way match well that b front page

 

[bromtom]

If u sing it can be altered but walking out at an A way match well that b front page

What about refusing to leave an away game.

Stay behind and just sing fuck VAR until they call the army in haha

 

[Old Programme seller]

Apparently the ref got an assist and match win bonus

 

[Gulpy]

Firstly I will say that VAR as a concept seems like a fair idea, and applied correctly it's right to say that it increases the accuracy of decisions. However, I'm sure you don't need me to say it but time and again VAR is not in the slightest being applied appropriately or reasonably. Two clear cut examples of this were today's two to go against us.

Here's a screenshot of the first one.

Are we really at the level of ridiculousness to start saying that instances like these are offside? The lateral portion of a ligament in his knee may be offside but come on, let's actually be sensible and apply some reasoning and common sense here. Looking at the two players on the whole, Mousset is not offside. I appreciate VAR was brought in to improve accuracy but if it wants to hold on to a shred of credibility with fans, it simply cannot be used like this. It needs to be reserved for scenarios that may have been missed by the on field officials, but are actually distinguishable to the human eye on a replay. Using it to determine how many hairs on an arm may be offside is just really daft and is spoiling the game.

Here's the next one.

The rules state that if the referee influences the game in such a way that results in a direct goal or an attacking move that leads to a goal, then a drop ball should be given. I challenge any person on planet earth to argue a case for how this referee's actions did not directly lead to De Bruyne slotting in Aguero for the goal. I would be surprised if Fleck couldn't tell what brand of deodorant the referee had put on this morning.

I'm always apprehensive to use excuses of 'bad luck' or a 'bad referee' as they are wheeled out by so many fans of all clubs that they seem to have lost their meaning. I don't think you can find two clearer examples of decisions that went against us that shouldn't have done. As for VAR, I would say apply it correctly, sensibly and reasonably, or just scrap it completely and forget that this experiment ever happened. At least we would be able to go back to celebrating a goal in absolute pandemonium without thinking that it may be completely reversed two minutes later.

 

[Davalon]

It's the laws that needing changing