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I'm interested to hear what people think of this scenario, for a Wendy he certainly raises a good question. Would Prince get the right guy in IF Wilder went to lets say a top 4 side?
 

Would/could Knill be our manager if that happened or would he go with Wilder? I'm starting to think of them as Clough and Taylor, without the controversy of course

Alan Knill would certainly follow Wilder.
 
Wednesday season tickets are actual a beginner's crystal ball and the hit edutainment book "Mystic Meg - Hook, line, and bollocks".

Our financial future looks rosier if anything, McCabe and/or his US investors hardly a pleasant thought if shit hits the fan.

As for Wilder, well that's going to be shit when he goes, but he's transformed the entire club, no reason we can't stick to his blueprint when that terrible day arrives, hopefully in many years after our 3rd Champions League trophy.
 
No they don't .

This is just another example of a Grunter desperately hoping that things will all go tits up for us whilst they march to glory under their latest Messiah Gary Monk and be welcomed back to the Promised Land by the the elite clubs , who all tell them without exception how much they've missed their massive presence .

Sadly for them , neither scenario is going to happen which greatly disappoints me . 😂 😂😂
 
The fortunes of the two clubs always goes in cycles. We are the top club at present and long may it continue,

I cannot however remember a period when they were the top team in the city and we focused so much energy and attention on wishing the departure of one of their managers.

In their eyes the route to success is not an improvement of their management, playing staff or (no they could never bring themselves to think this) getting rid of the ineffective Chansiri.

Instead it's praying for Chris Wilder to be poached by a 'bigger' club.
 
Wilder will be the first to say it's always about the players. We have good players that a decent replacement could utilise.
But can see Wilder being out Alex Ferguson for quite some time . When we stay up why would he go and start from scratch somewhere else. We are as good for him as he is for us.

Let's be honest here, the vast majority of PL clubs love a foreign name. It goes towards their global fanbase. Just as we have a Sheffielder in charge, the Italians have one in charge at Chelsea (or did last season at least). It's almost a marketing ploy at times.

The more hardworking and honest clubs such as us, Burnley, Newcastle and Bournemouth have the English managers. None of those clubs claim to be something they are not (argument against Newcastle there). What would be the point of Wilder leaving us to take a sideways step and starting again? Overlapping Centre backs is a unique position for unique players.

Little point in him leaving us (on that basis). He's an honest man. He'd tell us if things weren't right. All the fears of him leaving if and when McCabe did are total fantasy as well.
 
I was amused yesterday when I thought about what a good cup run could do for us and if we were to win the league Cup. Very highly doubtful, I know.

Then I remembered that it's not the main cup. The FA Cup is the one that's important. Then I remembered that Wigan and Portsmouth have recently won it. Yet both are classed as tinpot. So it must be the rumbelows Cup that is a yardstick for greatness. Then remembered that Swansea Birmingham and Leicester have won that more recently than the pigs. So wondered what the fuck they harp on about.

Oh how I chuckled.
 
Reasons:-
1 - Lack of support from the board.

2 - we stagnate and he feels he's taken us as far as he can..

In short there's absolutely no reason for CW to leave anytime soon.
 

Click bait desperation. It's early days for our sole owner, but I have to say he has been quietly professional as opposed to the megalomaniac actions of the dolphin killer. So I have no worries he will do something rash that will stop this meteoric rise.

As for the "Wilder leaving", it's not going to happen. Man City or Liverpool are not going to need a manager anytime soon. Chelski and Man United are run by idiots who will always go for the big foreign name not the bloke from Sheffield.

When we stay up, CW and AK can carry on building the Blades and aim for higher finishes and possibly a cup.

My only worry is the England job......oh but that's okay because the FA is run by idiots as well.

So the piggy theory is complete and utter rubbish, as usual !😀🍾😂🍺
 
Comes to something when the pigs greatest achievements this century is to get promotion from league one ahead of us and have a play off final. That’s it.
In that time they’ve also ripped off banks and local businesses, restarted with another company name, had a foreign owner come in and blow £80m and rising, and finally look to be in the shit for fiddling their accounts so they can continue to cheat and flounce the rules.
Yet apparently, United will be in massive trouble if Wilder goes!!

What twisted logic, they really are prize weapons.

Let’s put this to bed.
Wilder has a job with his club as long as he wants it. That means, other than the lure of champions league and league titles he’s going nowhere. Which clubs can realistically offer titles and champions league?
City, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd...and that’s it. Even then, some of those look a long way off. These clubs operate with a base of foreign players and managers. A bloke from Sheffield who masters in motivation and plain speaking won’t work.

So it’s down to the rest to try and force their way in...would he stand a better chance doing that where he is? Or jumping ship for an Everton, or Newcastle, West Ham...who would Chuck money at it but expect success.?
Answer is staying here, while he is allowed to control it, see a gradual increasing in the playing squad investment and a constant improvement of the club as a whole he’s going nowhere.
Money isn’t even a factor, I suspect he’s the lowest paid in the league, but even then he will be doing well and comfortable. He’s just a genuine guy who loves his football, and money isn’t the deciding factor to him.

So silly pigs, don’t go getting your hopes up that we will be coming to join you in the shit anytime soon. We may go down this season, but even if we did the club is miles ahead of you in every aspect. Enjoy league one...because it’s coming eventually.
 
CW has his perfect job, can’t see him leaving for another club side.
Different story if England come calling!Could do it part time I suppose.
 
He isn't saying anything particularly insightful in my opinion. Every club is potentialy one managerial appointment away from success or failure. We are no different. Wilder is just a particularly special manager but there is nothing to say someone could not come in and add to what he has built, and keep us at this level.

I hate to think of Wilder ever leaving us, but I am fearing it less nowadays.

In any case, I still think the Prince wi sell up before Chris considers moving on.
 
I'd worry about losing Wilder when it happens.

Its likely that a time will come where he'll have to choose between the Blades and a career move he'll struggle to turn down. It may be the money or opportunity is too good or that SUFC simply don't have the resources to move onto that next level. If and when that happens then its the most sincere GLTTL there has ever been.

However, if we suddenly go and lose 5 on the bounce then the usual suspects will start calling for his head. Given the Prince's recent comments you'd like to think he wouldn't do anything knee-jerk.

Either way we'll be in the same boat as any other club whose manager leaves, we'll simply look at the market and see who is available......albeit we'll likely either be a Premier League side or a top Championship side with a sustainable squad and parachute payments to burn. Could be worse.

What is 'bleak' is it making no difference who you appoint as your next manager as you are saddled with an overpaid, injured and under performing squad you can't get rid of with little room for manoeuvre round FFP due to a failed gamble on the play-offs.
 
Comes to something when the pigs greatest achievements this century is to get promotion from league one ahead of us and have a play off final. That’s it.
In that time they’ve also ripped off banks and local businesses, restarted with another company name, had a foreign owner come in and blow £80m and rising, and finally look to be in the shit for fiddling their accounts so they can continue to cheat and flounce the rules.
Yet apparently, United will be in massive trouble if Wilder goes!!

What twisted logic, they really are prize weapons.

Let’s put this to bed.
Wilder has a job with his club as long as he wants it. That means, other than the lure of champions league and league titles he’s going nowhere. Which clubs can realistically offer titles and champions league?
City, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd...and that’s it. Even then, some of those look a long way off. These clubs operate with a base of foreign players and managers. A bloke from Sheffield who masters in motivation and plain speaking won’t work.

So it’s down to the rest to try and force their way in...would he stand a better chance doing that where he is? Or jumping ship for an Everton, or Newcastle, West Ham...who would Chuck money at it but expect success.?
Answer is staying here, while he is allowed to control it, see a gradual increasing in the playing squad investment and a constant improvement of the club as a whole he’s going nowhere.
Money isn’t even a factor, I suspect he’s the lowest paid in the league, but even then he will be doing well and comfortable. He’s just a genuine guy who loves his football, and money isn’t the deciding factor to him.

So silly pigs, don’t go getting your hopes up that we will be coming to join you in the shit anytime soon. We may go down this season, but even if we did the club is miles ahead of you in every aspect. Enjoy league one...because it’s coming eventually.

Good post !
 
CW has his perfect job, can’t see him leaving for another club side.
Different story if England come calling!Could do it part time I suppose.

Can't see Wilder fancying the England job. Same as every other decent manager they want to be involved day to day rather than every few months (most of which is preparing for dull qualifiers).

Its only really going to appeal to managers in the autumn of their career or those who can't get a look in at Premiership level, plus one bad tournament can do serious damage to their reputation.
 
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I'm interested to hear what people think of this scenario, for a Wendy he certainly raises a good question. Would Prince get the right guy in IF Wilder went to lets say a top 4 side?
Stop worrying about the future. Football is all about the present time. We’re having one of, if not the best periods in history. Enjoy it whilst it lasts. No need to worry about the future until it arrives.
 
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I'm interested to hear what people think of this scenario, for a Wendy he certainly raises a good question. Would Prince get the right guy in IF Wilder went to lets say a top 4 side?

2 points.

There’s no way Wilder will be considered for a top 4 side. The only way it can happen is if he wins a trophy and also consistently perform well against and beat the likes of Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd etc. The reality is that even if we finish top half, that achievement is irrelevant to a club expecting Champions League status.
Wilders status in the PL is still quite low....he’s seen as a plucky Northern manager who is performing well in a relegation battle.
So it’s relegation threatened teams, like a Newcastle, who would be more likely to want him, basically he’s staying for the for see able future.

McCabe track record at picking managers has been really poor, so there reasons to be optimistic that someone else will be making the appointments.
The only concern is that foreign owners tend to have contacts abroad....so they appoint foreign managers....but it’s not hurt other clubs.
Anything could happen...good or bad....who knows?
 
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CW has his perfect job, can’t see him leaving for another club side.
Different story if England come calling!Could do it part time I suppose.
This is what I was pondering yesterday, think I'd just heard some noise from Southgate on the radio or something.
Would Wilder go to a top 6 club for the money and opportunity to manage big names? No, I don't think he would as his system doesn't work like that and it would seriously blemish his career.
Would he go to manage the national side? Maybe, he'd ditch any big bollox players and get the 'b string' performing better than we've ever seen England play (those of us too young to remember '66 anyway).
Could it be done part time? Why not.
Is he next in line? Not yet but he will be soon.
 

Would/could Knill be our manager if that happened or would he go with Wilder? I'm starting to think of them as Clough and Taylor, without the controversy of course

Alan Knill has no desire to be a manager again.

From the horse's mouth.
 

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