7 new rules next season - Good or Bad?

[TaxiBlade]

Thanks for this list. I'm not going to google it, I'll just see what pops up.

Ah, that was a first post I responded to, but it's been merged into another thread, so my post probably doesn't make sense.

I'll read the whole new thread now. I still only know these 3 lists in this thread!

 

[Silent Blade]

What happens if a dog runs on the pitch and the ball hits him and he scores a goal?

It happened once! Way back in the ‘70’s. And the goal stood. (I think?). I bet someone on here will know the details. All I remember is the fans singing, “sign him on”.

WBA v Everton in Nov 1976, a Jack Russell burst onto the field of play, picked up the ball deep in Everton territory and nudged the ball away from the Toffees midfield and into the path of David Cross. Needing no second invitation, he collected the gift, rounded Dai Davies in the Everton goal and scored.

 

[Paulus]

I can’t see the sub rule cutting out timewasting. I would much prefer the rule to be turned on its head and only allow subs to be made during play as in ice hockey. That would get the buggers on and off the pitch quickly.

 

[TaxiBlade]

Celebrating goals in front of opposing fans....nowt wrong with it,that’s football.All the cock ends that lose it and spit the dummy out can fuck off.

I think a difference now (in today's football, since decimalisation ) is that these over paid tossers in the prem taunt fans because of abuse on things like twitter etc. rather than taunts from the crowds these days)

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Of course, I'm not saying abusive language was right...

but many a time, players would be taunted for one thing or another: bog liners, overweight (but by modern standards, quite clearly obese )

and they would get 'You fat bar-steward, x10 when they got the ball...

and of course they'd score in front of the Kop, and pull taunt/pat the belly/ etc.

I'd obviously not shout it out, but amongst people around, the general consensus was 2 fingers, and say between ourselves... I fecking knew he'd score.

 

[TaxiBlade]

I can’t see the sub rule cutting out timewasting. I would much prefer the rule to be turned on its head and only allow subs to be made during play as in ice hockey. That would get the buggers on and off the pitch quickly.

My comment (before I read the newer merged thread) was this:

'3. Will VAR and its Hawkeye instantly work out that he took a slightly longer route to slow the game, and tell the ref to book him? If not, that'll be next. '

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I never Paulus considered live play changes. That would be a huge change, so would require much more thought. I could see this being dodgy.

 

[Sean Thornton]

WBA v Everton in Nov 1976, a Jack Russell burst onto the field of play, picked up the ball deep in Everton territory and nudged the ball away from the Toffees midfield and into the path of David Cross. Needing no second invitation, he collected the gift, rounded Dai Davies in the Everton goal and scored.

Bastard

 

[Scarebus]

I have some good news for you, it's apparently against the laws of the game:

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Seems to be some conflicting info on this:

 

[Beans]

Seems to be some conflicting info on this:

Interesting. So as long as the above is not used to waste time (ie heading a goalkick into a keeper's arms so he can fart about with it for a few more seconds) then it'll be okay. Fair enough.

 

[NuddysGloves]

Am I the only one who thinks the change to the drop ball rule is a good one??

How often do we actually see a contested drop ball nowadays? I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I saw one. What we do see a lot of is a team winning the ball and launching a counter attack, driving forwards into the opponents half only for the ref to notice the bloke who lost the ball is lying on the ground pretending his head is hurt so the ref has to stop the game. All the defenders get in position and the game restarts with the ball being booted all the way back to the goalkeeper.

At least with this new rule change you get possession of the ball where you lost it. Much better IMO.

 

[Linz]

Update from the FA clarifying the touch-line bans for coaching staff:

The FA outlines key updates to its Rules and Regulations ahead of the 2019/20 Season

The Football Association [The FA] has today confirmed key additions, amendments and clarifications to its Rules & Regulations ahead of the new season.

www.thefa.com

And this is the guide issued to the media with regard to the new rules:

http://www.thefa.com/-/media/thefacom-new/files/rules-and-regulations/2019-20/fa-media-essentials-guide-2019-20.ashx

 

[Linz]

The keeper can move - see my post 12 above. In fact, the new rule is slightly better for the keeper as he can move one foot forward - he only has to have one foot on or in line with the line.

Double post but the media guidance document says:

PENALTY KICKS
• The team’s penalty taker can have quick treatment/assessment and then take a penalty kick;
• The goalkeeper must not be touching the goalposts/crossbar/nets;
- The goalkeeper must not be moving;
• The goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot on/in line with the goal line;
- When the kick is taken they cannot stand behind the line.

 

[KPO]

Double post but the media guidance document says:

PENALTY KICKS
• The team’s penalty taker can have quick treatment/assessment and then take a penalty kick;
• The goalkeeper must not be touching the goalposts/crossbar/nets;
- The goalkeeper must not be moving;
• The goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot on/in line with the goal line;
- When the kick is taken they cannot stand behind the line.

According to IFAB:

Goalkeepers are not permitted to stand in front of or behind the line. Allowing the goalkeeper to have only one foot touching the goal line (or, if jumping, in line with the goal line) when the penalty kick is taken is a more practical approach as it is easier to identify if both feet are not on the line. As the kicker can ‘stutter’ in the run, it is reasonable that the goalkeeper can take one step in anticipation of the kick.

As I said earlier, if they must not be moving, how could they be jumping?

I don't really know which is actually correct, but perhaps the governing bodies should get their act together. Seems that they change the laws to make everything even more confusing!

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

....and still no FIFA action to combat the general 'shielding the ball by the corner flag from the 75th minute onwards that certain big teams are so fond of doing to kill time, even though they masquerade as purveyors of beautiful attacking football' shithousery that blights the modern game at every sodding level.

 

[Woodwardfan]

Double post but the media guidance document says:

PENALTY KICKS
• The team’s penalty taker can have quick treatment/assessment and then take a penalty kick;
• The goalkeeper must not be touching the goalposts/crossbar/nets;
- The goalkeeper must not be moving;
• The goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot on/in line with the goal line;
- When the kick is taken they cannot stand behind the line.

Refs and linesmen have ducked their responsibilities for decades, especially at big clubs.

VAR has shone a spotlight on this, thats for sure.

All in favour apart from the rule not to stand behind the line. Forward momentum is needed in a save against such a shot from such a short distance. If the lad stands behind the line and is on the line when the penalty is taken, what's the problem?

 

[Yoonited]

So the goalkeeper is not allowed to move when facing a penalty?! Why bother having a goalkeeper there at all!!

Gives the taker a better chance to score surely. Does this then encourage trying to win more penalties? By fair means .

 

[Willie Carlin]

Nothing done about man handling in the area at corners free kicks etc.

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

You will find 11 Norwich players on the centre spot when a sub is about to be made.

Or 11 pigs huddled in the same spot if they get a penalty.

 

[penthouseblade]

Gives the taker a better chance to score surely. Does this then encourage trying to win more penalties? By fair means .

What chance has the keeper got if he can't move?? I would say it pretty much guarantees the taker will score, unless he is off target of course! It'll probably, therefore, encourage more diving as a penalty now is a virtual free hit. It remains to be seen what happens of course, but imagine a penalty shoot out scenario in a cup game; they will go on forever!

 

[steve26272]

If they are outlawing gamesmanship by the GK, moving around and tapping the cross bar, are they balancing it up by banning the staggered run up or that stupid fuckin run up Pogba does?

Also why haven’t they addressed the shielding of the ball to allow it to run out for a goal kick defenders do to stop the attacker reaching it, even tho the ball is about 5yds away - obstruction anywhere else on the pitch

 

[Beans]

Seems to be some conflicting info on this:

IFAB have now clarified and outlawed this "flick it up and head it back" goalkick: http://www.theifab.com/news/clarification-law-16-the-goal-kick

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1. Goalkeeper ‘lifting’ the ball to a team mate who heads/chests it back to the goalkeeper

There has been much debate about whether, at a goal kick, the goalkeeper is permitted to ‘lift’ the ball to a team mate to head or chest it back to the goalkeeper to catch and then put into play. The views of technical and refereeing experts about whether this is within the ‘spirit’ of the Laws is divided so the matter will be discussed by The IFAB. Until then, this practice should not be permitted nor should it be penalised. If it occurs the referee should order the goal kick to be re-taken (but without any disciplinary action)."

 

[Silent Blade]

WBA v Everton in Nov 1976, a Jack Russell burst onto the field of play, picked up the ball deep in Everton territory and nudged the ball away from the Toffees midfield and into the path of David Cross. Needing no second invitation, he collected the gift, rounded Dai Davies in the Everton goal and scored.