7 new rules next season - Good or Bad?

[SwissBlade]

Why prevent a keeper touching the post (?)

If the dim twat wants to be that far across let 'I'm (her)

perhaps its to do with the goal line tech?

 

[Beans]

Oops, sorry KPO, you beat me to it Should've refreshed the page before posting

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

perhaps its to do with the goal line tech?

Logic & technology not my strongpoints although I reckon it would be obselete on such occasions as even I could (try to) knock the ball in the opposite (< 8yards) side !?!?

 

[SwissBlade]

Logic & technology not my strongpoints although I reckon it would be obselete on such occasions as even I could (try to) knock the ball in the opposite (< 8yards) side !?!?

It was the only thing i could think of, many keepers bang their studs against the post before pens and goal kicks

 

[sitwell]

It winds me up no end when fans moan that players are celebrating in front of them. Fans abuse players throughout the game, and if they get some back they turn into the most delicate of flowers. Personally I think the players should be able to celebrate where they like as long as they stay on the pitch and if the fans have been giving them some stick, they should be able to give some back.

On those new rules, I'm going to wait to see if the goalkeeper rules for penalties will be enforced for all. Odds on it's one of the smaller sites who will be punished for it first, and then it'll die out over the season due to it not being implemented by referees. Given VAR is coming in, it should be an easy one, but they'll bottle it.

Spot on ,they are trying to attract the younger generation to the game ,whats the main thing kids do when playing football ,they celebrate scoring by all kinds of inventive silly means. Its called enjoyment. These thick old cunts who have probably never played football ,or indeed had any enjoyment in life wouldn't understand that.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

It’s so easy, in the same way it would be to regulate subs.

Just stop the watch. It’s that simple.

I do wonder why the 4th official isn't the one who monitors and manages the game time. It would be much more sensible.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Spot on ,they are trying to attract the younger generation to the game ,whats the main thing kids do when playing football ,they celebrate scoring by all kinds of inventive silly means. Its called enjoyment. These thick old cunts who have probably never played football ,or indeed had any enjoyment in life wouldn't understand that.

If you haven't told a keeper your going to beat him on his near post, done exactly that, and celebrated by reminding him, have you ever really lived?
Same goes for licking your finger and making off 1, 2, 3 while wheeling round the playground.

On Penalties, that's exactly what they are supposed to be. Keepers have been taking the piss on them for the last couple of years, but it should be that if the taker hits the ball right, then the keepers got little chance. It's actually a test of nerve and skill for the taker rather than the keeper.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

perhaps its to do with the goal line tech?

Good shout that Swiss. No idea if true.

Logic & technology not my strongpoints although I reckon it would be obselete on such occasions as even I could (try to) knock the ball in the opposite (< 8yards) side !?!?

I think the keepers just do it to put the players off, or they believe that an extra inch (of the post/bar moving) is likely to aid them as unless the ref has blown, you have to wait for them to get back to the center. As the taker, I'd just wait an extra amount to wind them up.

 

[bartman]

I don't think they're all that positive, seems to be sanitising the game too much

Rule 1 - Subs: Positive
Rule 2 - Freekick Walls: Negative.
Rule 3 - Drop Balls: Negative
Rule 4 - GK Pens: On the Fence. Is it a problem?
Rule 5 - Goal Kicks: Positive (Potentially)
Rule 6 - Accidental Handballs: Positive
Rule 7 - Celebrations: Negative. Load of Nonsense

The problem with rule 4 is that, like now, refs bottle enforcing the rule. How many times do we see keepers clearly off the line ( i.e. both feet off the line)when a penalty is struck and then not penalised if they save it ( or the penalty is missed) ?
The World Cup highlighted the problem

 

[bartman]

Good shout that Swiss. No idea if true.


I think the keepers just do it to put the players off, or they believe that an extra inch (of the post/bar moving) is likely to aid them as unless the ref has blown, you have to wait for them to get back to the center. As the taker, I'd just wait an extra amount to wind them up.

Surely the easy solution would be for the ref to blow for the penalty to be taken irrespectively of whether the keeper is ready of not ( providing the keeper isn't injured and receiving treatment)

 

[Jesus_was_a_Blade]

Bunch of jobsworth c***s trying to justify their six figure salaries.

1. Just get the referee to stop his watch & add 30 seconds on the end, not difficult.

2. Absolutely ridiculous, why not?

3. Fair enough, they were daft anyway.

4. Pathetic.

5. Fine with this one.

6. So you can't score with your hand? Think we all knew that one...

7. You get booked for celebrating with fans at the minute, God forbid players show a bit of passion every now & again.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Surely the easy solution would be for the ref to blow for the penalty to be taken irrespectively of whether the keeper is ready of not ( providing the keeper isn't injured and receiving treatment)

But if they've just twatted the bar and it's swaying about, then why should the taker disadvantage themselves?

 

[him behind you]

I guess if you do "any contact between hand/arm and ball = foul" then you'll get teams deliberately trying to flick the ball into defenders' hands in the box. I like this change, it removes a handful of controversial goals scored without leading to a million penalties for accidental handball.



Sorry if you're being tongue in cheek and this is a whoosh moment, but that's exactly the kind of situation fans will want to see surely? You'll end up with the better teams having their CBs come right into the six yard box to get a short pass from the GK and play from there. Bear in mind the defending team will still need to start outside the penalty area until the ball is kicked.

In theory it should lead to more space for the team in possession, and also the potential for more turnovers high up the pitch which will lead to more chances. Plus, it'll stop the sneaky time-wasting trick teams have started doing of deliberately touching a pass from the GK inside their own box, thus leading to a re-taken goal kick.

With the "goalkeepers can't move" one - I wonder if the author has misinterpreted this or not been completely clear. It says that the law is intended to address gamesmanship; I understood it to be that the keeper can't dance around on the line trying to put the taker off (same reason you can no long whack the crossbar to make it shake as a lot of keepers do). The actual IFAB changes say:

Penalty Kick - Law 14
Changes​

• • The team’s penalty taker can have (quick) treatment/assessment and then take the kick
  • The goalkeeper must not be touching the goalposts/crossbar/nets; they must not be moving
  • The goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot on/in line with the goal line when the kick is taken; cannot stand behind the line
• Explanation
  • It is unfair if the kicker needs assessment/treatment and then has to leave the field and cannot take the penalty kick.
  • The referee must not signal for the penalty kick to be taken if the goalkeeper is touching the goalposts, crossbar or net, or if they are moving e.g. the goalkeeper has kicked/shaken them
  • Goalkeepers are not permitted to stand in front of or behind the line. Allowing the goalkeeper to have only one foot touching the goal line (or, if jumping, in line with the goal line) when the penalty kick is taken is a more practical approach as it is easier to identify if both feet are not on the line. As the kicker can ‘stutter’ in the run, it is reasonable that the goalkeeper can take one step in anticipation of the kick.

Surely that just means you have to "be in position" as a keeper (so not dancing around from post to post) with the leeway of being able to take a step in anticipation as the kick is about to be taken (so basically what happens now), not that you must stand exactly in the middle of the posts and remain completely stationary through the whole thing.

Fair point about the handball and players trying to flick against the hands - I'd not taken into account how much footballers like to "use the rules"

 

[Fulwood Blade]

This is going to be funny in South Stand - there's still some that complain about rule changes from before !

UTB

 

[bartman]

But if they've just twatted the bar and it's swaying about, then why should the taker disadvantage themselves?

That will be the penalty takers decision to take the kick and for the ref to show the yellow card to the keeper for delaying the restart/ungentlemanly conduct

 

[Westran]

The new rules for a drop ball are likely to create a few new tactical plays, I look forward to seeing how Alan Knill interpretes this one

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Think everyone needs to read the penalty thing again.

They must not be moving has nothing to do with the goalkeeper, they're saying the posts/crossbar must not be moving. The referee can't blow to allow the penalty to begin until they're still.

No mention whatsoever of the keepers not being allowed to move.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

This is going to be funny in South Stand - there's still some that complain about rule changes from before !

UTB

Aye Games never been the same since they got rid of the ( Eton) wall !

 

[Superblades]

The substitute one is stupid, just stop the clock whenever a player is injured, a substitution is made or the ball goes out of play until it’s play again.

 

[Sothall_Blade]

I don't think they're all that positive, seems to be sanitising the game too much

Rule 1 - Subs: Positive
Rule 2 - Freekick Walls: Negative.
Rule 3 - Drop Balls: Negative
Rule 4 - GK Pens: On the Fence. Is it a problem?
Rule 5 - Goal Kicks: Positive (Potentially)
Rule 6 - Accidental Handballs: Positive
Rule 7 - Celebrations: Negative. Load of Nonsense

7) The only change to this rule is that a player can still get booked for celebrating even if the goal is disallowed. Ties in with VAR being used to disallow goals after celebrations have already taken place. They’re just clarifying what will happen as it will no doubt occur sooner or later.

Whether players should get booked for celebrating at all is a totally separate argument as it’s been in place for years.

Personally, I think they should only be booked for the worst excesses.
I.e.Extreme provocation of opposition fans or obvious intentional time-wasting.

 

[Houston_Blade]

The goal kicks one seems like a big departure. Might have a negative impact on our attacking though as it means the other team can counter attack more quickly.

 

[SwissBlade]

The goal kicks one seems like a big departure. Might have a negative impact on our attacking though as it means the other team can counter attack more quickly.

Might also have a positive on our defending as we can press even higher

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

It will be interesting to see how VAR is used with penalties regardless of the new goalkeeper element. Just about every penalty will need to be retaken if VAR does its job properly. The reason ------- encroachment.

 

[KeyffSmyff]

Would have thought the penalty one will be as likely to be applied as the stuttering run up for a penalty.

 

[Snowman]

The keeper can move - see my post 12 above. In fact, the new rule is slightly better for the keeper as he can move one foot forward - he only has to have one foot on or in line with the line.

There’s moving and moving properly if you see what I mean!

 

[west_yorks_blade]

They should deal with deliberate obstruction by defenders so the ball runs out of play for a goal kick.

You see it happen at least 6 times a game. Attacking player desperately trying to get near the ball, while the defenders uses legs, arms, backside, shoulders to block it off for anything up to 20 yards. And if there is any contact the defender goes down in a heap and gets awarded a free kick.

 

[Willie Carlin]

I’d like to see a rule change regards to the Keeper coming out of the box. If they couldn’t come out of the box It would help to stop them being used as a sweeper and would open play up. Similar to five and seven a side games.

 

[Kenilworth]

You watch
Like before, when new rules come into force, we will be punished for something and it will lead to a defeat for us. Later in the season, players from the big six, will get way with something we wouldn’t have a hope in hell of getting away with.

Garner handball, red.

Tracey handball on release of ball from hands as he kicks it and he travels out of the area, red

Morgan’s intent - pen

 

[penthouseblade]

Think everyone needs to read the penalty thing again.

They must not be moving has nothing to do with the goalkeeper, they're saying the posts/crossbar must not be moving. The referee can't blow to allow the penalty to begin until they're still.

No mention whatsoever of the keepers not being allowed to move.

Couple of bits from the article mate:

The ‘no movement’ provision is interesting because it stops goalkeepers attempting to double bluff penalty takers by moving one way before diving the other....

The ‘no movement’ provision in particular is very likely to slip. If a goalkeeper lifts his arm or leans one way as the taker is running up to the spot, is any referee really likely to penalise them?

As far as penalties go I’d say encroachment is the biggest problem not the keeper waving his fucking arms about!

There always seems to be lots of tinkering with the rules but precious little done about the biggest cancer in the game, diving. Admittedly there have been a few players done for ‘simulation’ last season or two but the problem is rife, I hope VAR will go some way to improving it but I won’t hold my breath!

 

[Mumbo]

Goalkeepers discriminated against again. A penalty is exactly that. A penalty is:-
(in sports and games) a handicap imposed on a player or team for infringement of rules.

The opposition have been denied an opportunity to score a goal. During that lost opportunity the goalkeeper would very much be able to move and he might very well have been able to deny the opportunity. The opponent might have been going away from goal, been at a tight angle or faced with another three players to get past.

On a penalty, the opposing player, 100% a specialist in scoring goals, is entitled to a free shot unimpeded from 12 yards in the centre of the goal against a keeper already restricted to his line. The entitlement to a free shot with a stationary ball, with no opponents around or in front of him, from the centre of the goal is sufficient handicap to the keeper and his team especially in these days of athletes who can kick the light ball used nowadays at a speed far faster than any keeper can react.

So now a keeper can't move? Just award the goal, you may as well. In fact just outlaw keepers entirely. Inconvenient contrary bastards stopping goals, how dare they.

Celebrating goals in front of opposing fans....nowt wrong with it,that’s football.All the cock ends that lose it and spit the dummy out can fuck off.