Chedwyn

[alcoblade]

Brilliant because for a moment I thought you were describing Cresswell.
Cressy the target man who can't jump or head a ball but you have him in your list that Ched can't beat into the team. If I wasn't a Blade I'd actually hope you got your wish of Cresswell signing and Evans being sold on.

Incidentally who headed it across to Cresswell to hit the keepers from 5 yards out yesterday?



Well he's done more than Cresswell for starters.

Cresswell, who doesn't even claim to be a striker, has a better scoring rate for us then our "main" striker. And Cresswell's far from what we should be looking at to progress, but that's another story.

We can cut and carve this in all ways. There is surely no other conclusion than Evans has been totally crap, a complete failure, and we are all just left hoping that something just clicks in future. There's nothing to argue about thus far - he simply hasn't been good enough and doesn't deserve his shirt on current form. Can you tell me that's wrong?

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[Flatulent_Bob]

I think if Cresswell is being given the shirt Evans has a case.

Cresswell also has had the advantage of being played home and away whereas Ched is dropped for a target man in every away game so doesn't get a run of games.

I'm not saying Ched has pulled up any trees but Cresswell has been extremely poor for the last few games plus as I've stated so many times we don't play to Ched's strengths and still expect. Whereas we have been playing exactly how Cresswell is supposed to thrive (long balls up the middle) he's been poor outwide or upfront.

 

[lenners]

I don't think Cresswell would be in the side either if everyone's fit but he does have the advantage of effort and winning the ball, particularly in the air, two things Chedwyn really struggles with.

 

[Fiery Blade]

I don't think Cresswell would be in the side either if everyone's fit but he does have the advantage of effort and winning the ball, particularly in the air, two things Chedwyn really struggles with.

Sorry Lenners, Yesterday Cresswell won bugger all headers and when he played two heavy passes bollocked Camara for not chasing them!
Whilst I'm not at all convinced with Evans -Cresswell is a non starter, waste of money and wages - either a has been or never has been - take your pick!

 

[alcoblade]

I've stated so many times we don't play to Ched's strengths and still expect.

Go on then Bob - spare me a milisecond and list them?

I take your point about Cresswell - I'm stunned we're apparently paying a fee for him - but his, or any other players strengths and weaknesses don't alter the fact that we're shelling out huge chunks of money on Evans and he's doing nothing for it. It's not about being proved right or wrong, it's about him taking up a critical position in any sort of promotion push. Camara has shown infinitely more in a handful of games and should surely be the preferred striker from here on.

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[moDtheGod]

I don't think the club have helped. Blackie included. He's been hyped up through his price and Blackies positivity and enthusiastic comments. But also what was he to do? perhaps say nothing would have helped?

So we're supposed to sign players and when the press inevitably ask questions like "Why did you sign him? What does he offer?" the staff are supposed to stare blankly? Come off it. You're obviously going to say lots of positive things, if you didn't feel positive, you wouldn't have made the signing.

If we signed a player and the gaffer refused to talk about the player to the press, I'd be wondering what on Earth was going on.That would do more harm than good.

That type of comment just shows that Blackwell cannot actually do a single thing right. You can't seriously believe that we shouldn't be paying good fees for players and then saying nice things in the press?

 

[SwissBlade]

So we're supposed to sign players and when the press inevitably ask questions like "Why did you sign him? What does he offer?" the staff are supposed to stare blankly? Come off it. You're obviously going to say lots of positive things, if you didn't feel positive, you wouldn't have made the signing.

If we signed a player and the gaffer refused to talk about the player to the press, I'd be wondering what on Earth was going on.That would do more harm than good.

That type of comment just shows that Blackwell cannot actually do a single thing right. You can't seriously believe that we shouldn't be paying good fees for players and then saying nice things in the press?

I was trying to say that we've hyped him up, but if he doesn't would it have had an affect. So its basically very difficult to know whats right and whats wrong.

Personally i'd have rather us wait for him to put a few decent performances in and then made comments. But either way, when he carries a large price tag (by our standards) for a young lad, the fans and the club are obviously going to get excited.

But a price tag and the hype doesn't help it can in fact be a hinderance if the lad doesn't immediately hit form...

 

[lenners]

Sorry Lenners, Yesterday Cresswell won bugger all headers and when he played two heavy passes bollocked Camara for not chasing them!
Whilst I'm not at all convinced with Evans -Cresswell is a non starter, waste of money and wages - either a has been or never has been - take your pick!

I wouldn't be unhappy if we didn't sign Cresswell but he's contributed more than Chedwyn while he's been here.
And you do know you'll get effort with him, something you don't know with Chedwyn who has an unhappy knack of disappearing in games.

 

[Linz]

Back to the original point, I think Ched had a back injury when he first came to us that stopped him making pre-season appearences.

Not sure if its a recurring thing though.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Go on then Bob - spare me a milisecond and list them?

I take your point about Cresswell - I'm stunned we're apparently paying a fee for him - but his, or any other players strengths and weaknesses don't alter the fact that we're shelling out huge chunks of money on Evans and he's doing nothing for it. It's not about being proved right or wrong, it's about him taking up a critical position in any sort of promotion push. Camara has shown infinitely more in a handful of games and should surely be the preferred striker from here on.

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But he can't play consecutive matches he's crocked although I would agree he's earnt a starting spot I still don't believe Camara is the player a lot of fans seem to think he is. He is quick, very direct and will always take the shot on, this is regardless of better positioned players a bit like Danny Webber, although slightly better obviously.

I think Cheds qualities are his touch,his shot and his vision. He always seems to find another man when he passes it and creates some good chances for others. One of his major downfalls are his style which can look lazy when we get the ball and he doesn't instinctively leg it as fast as he can towards the oppos goal. I also think he has been very unlucky on a number of occasions otherwise he would have a few more goals and maybe that nervousness that is apparent when he plays might have gone. An example of which would be the offside decision when he was clean through on Monday when he never was off or Cresswell hitting the keeper from his knock back which most forwards (certainly Cresswell and Camara) would of gone for goal.

I like him and I know we all (apart from Len) hope he comes good but he hasn't pulled up many trees but for me he seems to look for the best option for the team even though given the stick he is starting to get he might be better to just shoot.

Will we come good at United? Who knows I hope so but I'm convinced he will get goals elsewhere if we sold him.

I don't think a proper run in the side would hurt him, either that or take him away from the first team and let him get his confidence in the reserves before restoring him. Either way he needs a run of consistent games where he knows he is going to play. That's my opinion anyway, although reading your opinion of Naysmith I get the feeling we may be on opposite ends of most footballing opinions.

 

[lenners]

Back to the original point, I think Ched had a back injury when he first came to us that stopped him making pre-season appearences.

Not sure if its a recurring thing though.

It's definitely recurring. He still hasn't put any appearances in.
If only Chedwyn was actually someone else, he might be a good striker.

 

[alcoblade]

But he can't play consecutive matches he's crocked although I would agree he's earnt a starting spot I still don't believe Camara is the player a lot of fans seem to think he is. He is quick, very direct and will always take the shot on, this is regardless of better positioned players a bit like Danny Webber, although slightly better obviously.

I think Cheds qualities are his touch,his shot and his vision. He always seems to find another man when he passes it and creates some good chances for others. One of his major downfalls are his style which can look lazy when we get the ball and he doesn't instinctively leg it as fast as he can towards the oppos goal. I also think he has been very unlucky on a number of occasions otherwise he would have a few more goals and maybe that nervousness that is apparent when he plays might have gone. An example of which would be the offside decision when he was clean through on Monday when he never was off or Cresswell hitting the keeper from his knock back which most forwards (certainly Cresswell and Camara) would of gone for goal.

I like him and I know we all (apart from Len) hope he comes good but he hasn't pulled up many trees but for me he seems to look for the best option for the team even though given the stick he is starting to get he might be better to just shoot.

Will we come good at United? Who knows I hope so but I'm convinced he will get goals elsewhere if we sold him.

I don't think a proper run in the side would hurt him, either that or take him away from the first team and let him get his confidence in the reserves before restoring him. Either way he needs a run of consistent games where he knows he is going to play. That's my opinion anyway, although reading your opinion of Naysmith I get the feeling we may be on opposite ends of most footballing opinions.

Good post - we clearly see it differently but that's what makes the game beautiful.

Re my opinion of Naysmith - I don't want to appear too down on him - he's a decent enough player - just (IMHO) not nearly worth what we're paying him and for that reason alone, we should get rid.

If we weren't £37M in debt, I'd view it differently!

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[SwissBlade]

Bob, I'm with you on Ched.

I think whilst Hendo is out we need to be looking to get a combination up front.

A lot has been made of the Hoofball, which was probably more apparent when we were having our bad run and I don't think this suited any of the strikers, particularly Ched as it relied on a major physical presence or pace... I don't think either is Ched's game.

He's more technical. I hope he gets a start against QPR as I think he could do a job and get goals in this game, hopefully we'll play without fear and hopefully get the ball down.

I think it was against Posh that we played Camera, Ched and Wardy as a 3, first half they linked well as we got the ball on the deck and had decent movement.

Can Ched play up with Camara in a 4-4-2? Wardy looks great down the wings but we need another winger. If Cresswell can step his game up fine. Otherwise I'd like to see Little or Kyel Reid given a run...

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

You see I think Wardy is ok at this level on the wing but would be found wanting against the better sides as proven when he was up against Shorey.
His delivery isn't the best but then again he is a forward who has been pushed onto the wing because we have no pace otherwise.

As I've stated loads of times on here I would like to see us set up 4-3-3 home and away with Monty, Willo, Harper, and Ched, Hendo and Wardy upfront.
Obviously now Camara comes into the equation but with Hendo out we could play Ched for Hendo while he is injured with Camara coming in from the left.

If we actually played through our midfield and got our fullback to push on I think this formation could work for us, but I'm under no illusions that Blackie would never try it.

I just want us to play to our strengths and that's not longer hoofball. We have a smallish side with more technical players than we've had for many a year. It just seems madness to me to take away our advantage over most teams in this division by getting the ball forward too early. Harper, Williamson, Naysmith, Walker, Evans and Camara are more technical and better on the ground than the Blades sides of old. I just think we are missing a trick.

 

[lenners]

In what way has Evans shown he is more technical and better on the ground than anyone?
Is it that he's forever dribbling past players? Is it his brilliant, incisive passing? Is it his Edwards-like finishing?