Chedwyn

[raul]

Is he carrying an injury?

 

[Bladesman]

We can only hope.

Everyone else is anyway.

 

[LouTheBlade]

If he's not he's either not pulling his weight or he's pants. I really hope its not the latter. We need serious improvement from the lad - otherwise the boo boys will taunt him out of sheffield. I think there is a good player in there somewhere.....

 

[Robbie]

We can only hope.
.

People wishing injuries on our own players now.

Great times

 

[Guesty]

People wishing injuries on our own players now.

Great times

I don't think he means he wants him to get injured, he means that he hopes he's already injured as it would explain his God awful displays.

 

[JJ Sefton]

The guy is utter bobbins, the sooner we get rid the better.

 

[ciento%hoja]

was talking to my mate who is a canary, he said that he recons ched is carrying a few mental injuries....
from his days at man city... having a welsh manager and not getting played showing lack of confidence in a fellow national starlet..... going out on loan and being embraced everywhere you go... apart from your own club when you come back... score goals for them as a sub at high level of football and then get sold... sold to a lower league team...
with all accounts i think he is carrying mental injuries... but these would dissipate if he had a run and the team around him are supportive...

can we push get behind him as Super-ched.... like at Norwich... give him belief.....

maybe i am wrong...

 

[ciento%hoja]

Superched - we seemed to get behind keeeef and others in the past...
is this thing being made for ched ? ? ?

 

[JohnDenver]

was talking to my mate who is a canary, he said that he recons ched is carrying a few mental injuries....
from his days at man city... having a welsh manager and not getting played showing lack of confidence in a fellow national starlet..... going out on loan and being embraced everywhere you go... apart from your own club when you come back... score goals for them as a sub at high level of football and then get sold... sold to a lower league team...
with all accounts i think he is carrying mental injuries... but these would dissipate if he had a run and the team around him are supportive...

can we push get behind him as Super-ched.... like at Norwich... give him belief.....

maybe i am wrong...

I think you're right. He looks like a kid with the weight of the world on his shoulders. Either that or he's got lead in his boots.

But seriously, he's young and might well take time to come good. Abuse from the stands certainly won't help.

 

[Robbie]

I don't think he means he wants him to get injured, he means that he hopes he's already injured as it would explain his God awful displays.

I'd like to think he meant that - but previous postings would suggest different

I must say, the abuse he gets on here is unfounded, he is shit hot on Fifa10

 

[alcoblade]

To be fair though, he doesn't get any abuse from the stands that I can hear, and rightly so. His poor performance is his issue, not one created by the fans.

I think he's bobbins, but credit where it's due un an awful second half, he looked to be putting in that extra effort needed right at the end. Right now he's a million miles from what we thought we'd bought, but I was more impressed with him yetsereday (on a scale of 1 - 10, it's a 3) than at any other point.

UTB

 

[Torrix1889]

Ched can't play the way Blackwell wants him to, that's the problem. Read the same for Cotterill, Howard, Sharp............need I go on?

Blackwell out!

 

[Casper]

was talking to my mate who is a canary, he said that he recons ched is carrying a few mental injuries....
from his days at man city... having a welsh manager and not getting played showing lack of confidence in a fellow national starlet..... going out on loan and being embraced everywhere you go... apart from your own club when you come back... score goals for them as a sub at high level of football and then get sold... sold to a lower league team...
with all accounts i think he is carrying mental injuries... but these would dissipate if he had a run and the team around him are supportive...

can we push get behind him as Super-ched.... like at Norwich... give him belief.....

maybe i am wrong...

As ive mentioned many times before, i am not a Ched lover. I have been very disappointed and frustrated with his contributions to the team. However, perhaps there is some truth in what you say. He obviously has something about him otherwise he wouldnt have done what he has at his previous clubs. My disappointment, and anger at times, arise because I really hoped he was 'the one'. The talisman preseason signing to make that little bit of difference and get us out of this league - you know, a Ebanks-Blake type signing.

The fact is, apart from the odd flash here and there, he really has been crap this season.

I hope there is something in what you are saying and Blackie and his staff can sort him out. If that happens i would be the first person to glady accept my lashings of humble pie, with eggs and all else thrown at me. Now come on Ched, im starving!!!!!!!!

 

[Ballinpigpubs13]

It may just be down to what tactics Blackie is telling him before he enters the pitch. Billy sharp being a good point.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Apparantly according to Blackwells interview after the match its Camara that makes the team pass the ball on the floor!
Blackwell doesn't have a clue!

 

[Foxy]

Apparantly according to Blackwells interview after the match its Camara that makes the team pass the ball on the floor!
Blackwell doesn't have a clue!

Except for what he said made total sense?

He said that Henri demands the ball to feet, and does exactly what he wants in a striker. This allows us to play more football and that he likes to see.

We slaughter him for supposed hoof ball and then say he hasn't got a clue when he states he wants the strikers to play like Camara and us to play the ball on the floor?

What can he do that is right?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

It may just be down to what tactics Blackie is telling him before he enters the pitch. Billy sharp being a good point.

You know it's bad when a 5 foot 6 midfielder wins more headers than your 6foot striker.

Whenever i've seen him he never attacks the ball when it's crossed in. He always seems to hope it'll go over the defenders head or something.

 

[ciento%hoja]

i think i might start a positivity thread for player praise....

think it would work... every game, or interview or newspaper where there are positive things to be drawn, then this would be the place to say it.... no negativity, or grumble, pessimism or blerrrr.

just praise.... watya think ~?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Except for what he said made total sense?

He said that Henri demands the ball to feet, and does exactly what he wants in a striker. This allows us to play more football and that he likes to see.

We slaughter him for supposed hoof ball and then say he hasn't got a clue when he states he wants the strikers to play like Camara and us to play the ball on the floor?

What can he do that is right?

True, but it does raise the question why haven't we been playing it to Ched's feet when he is obviously more suited to that style?

Also yesterday we did go stupidly long far too often and didn't seem to learn that their centre halves were winning 90% of those balls.
We only seemed to change once Willo came on.

 

[Foxy]

True, but it does raise the question why haven't we been playing it to Ched's feet when he is obviously more suited to that style?

A very good question. He has spent a lot of his time ambling around half way with Blackwell telling him to get further up the pitch though. The big difference with Camara is that he creates space for himself and gambles on things, he's also very good with the ball at his feet. Think this is why we give it to him more.

Ched seems to be nervous on the ball around the edge of the area and often takes long enough to get it under control, never mind do something with it.

I think it'll come with Ched, eventually.

The other big question is, why do we insist on playing it to Hendo's head/neck when he too would benefit a lot more from the ball to feet? I think a lot of it is to do with confidence and panicing from our midfield.

Doesn't help that Killa and Walker have a habit of randomly punting it downfield too.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Well hopefully we are going to look more at Harper and Willamson as the midfield axis. They both like to drop deep to get the ball from the defence and hopefully this will encourage us to play it on the floor and turn the centre halves.

 

[lenners]

The problem with Chedwyn is that no-one will take him off us.
Our best bet is probably Norwich coming up and risking a punt on him for £500,000 or so next season but at least it would be another high earner off the wage bill.
If Henderson, Camara, Cresswell and Ward are fit, I can't see a place in the team for him.

 

[SwissBlade]

The problem with Chedwyn is that no-one will take him off us.
Our best bet is probably Norwich coming up and risking a punt on him for £500,000 or so next season but at least it would be another high earner off the wage bill.
If Henderson, Camara, Cresswell and Ward are fit, I can't see a place in the team for him.

The problem with Ched is that we've all been too quick to jump on his back.

Ched turned 21 yesterday, yet we treat him like a 28 yr old international Striker. He's had half a season with us...

I don't think the club have helped. Blackie included. He's been hyped up through his price and Blackies positivity and enthusiastic comments. But also what was he to do? perhaps say nothing would have helped?

Compare Ched to Kyle Naughton, Kyle was a similar age when he broke the first team, but he was able to play without fear as he wasn't carrying a price tag AND he knew all of the team as he'd been around the club for a good few years.

Jamie Ward is also a similar age and was allowed the time to settle before being thrown in.

Ched has shown at U21 level that he gets goals. He's still learning but give him time rather than just writing him off

 

[lenners]

Whether he's 17, 21, or 31 makes no difference if you haven't got the basics in your locker.
He's not quick, never looks like scoring, is nearly always on his heels instead of on the move, never wins a ball in the air, doesn't have a footballing brain and so on.
He's not a child, he's played 60 or 70 games and unfortunately the blunt truth is that he's been crap for us.
Maybe he'll miraculously turn it around second half of the season but if other players are fit he won't get a look-in and nor does he deserve to.

 

[Guesty]

On the club hyping him up, I had to laugh when Speed came out an said he had all the attributes to be the next Alan Shearer.

Well I suppose apart from strength, height, aerial abillity, instinct, shooting accuracy and the abillity to kick and elbow people and get away with it, I suppose he's dead on. EDIT: Yer, what Len said.

Swiss, why does he get so much support from some for being so young, yet Cotterill, who is just a year older was " a Welsh international so should be able to handle the pressure?" Radio Sheffield were particularly guilty of this bit of doublethink.

 

[SwissBlade]

On the club hyping him up, I had to laugh when Speed came out an said he had all the attributes to be the next Alan Shearer.

Well I suppose apart from strength, height, aerial abillity, instinct, shooting accuracy and the abillity to kick and elbow people and get away with it, I suppose he's dead on. EDIT: Yer, what Len said.

Swiss, why does he get so much support from some for being so young, yet Cotterill, who is just a year older was " a Welsh international so should be able to handle the pressure?" Radio Sheffield were particularly guilty of this bit of doublethink.

Too be fair Cotterill had a long loan spell and a full season at the club.

But the same logic could also have been applied to Cotterill that if we'd let him settle at the club first then broke him in gently he may have handled things better. Just seems that some players have the benefit of time, like Ward and Naughton (who both cost virtually nothing) yet young lads that cost more than a mill don't get the benefit - from the fans or the club.

I actually think Ched has a decent touch and shot on him. He needs to show a bit more composure at times but that should come.

I'm not comparing him to Shearer, but did Shearer have much pace?

I reckon Ched could drop the elbow in when he needs too

 

[Guesty]

Too be fair Cotterill had a long loan spell and a full season at the club.

But the same logic could also have been applied to Cotterill that if we'd let him settle at the club first then broke him in gently he may have handled things better. Just seems that some players have the benefit of time, like Ward and Naughton (who both cost virtually nothing) yet young lads that cost more than a mill don't get the benefit - from the fans or the club.

I actually think Ched has a decent touch and shot on him. He needs to show a bit more composure at times but that should come.

I'm not comparing him to Shearer, but did Shearer have much pace?

I reckon Ched could drop the elbow in when he needs too

I didn't say pace

So the similarity between Evans and Shearer is that neither were fast? Well I suddenly feel more confident.

 

[SwissBlade]

I didn't say pace

So the similarity between Evans and Shearer is that neither were fast? Well I suddenly feel more confident.

See! You missed the vital, non vital attribute that links the two players

 

[Guesty]

Just noticed I said "neither were" fast. Even I admit that that is a bit of a negative view of Ched's career!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Whether he's 17, 21, or 31 makes no difference if you haven't got the basics in your locker.
He's not quick, never looks like scoring, is nearly always on his heels instead of on the move, never wins a ball in the air, doesn't have a footballing brain and so on.

Brilliant because for a moment I thought you were describing Cresswell.
Cressy the target man who can't jump or head a ball but you have him in your list that Ched can't beat into the team. If I wasn't a Blade I'd actually hope you got your wish of Cresswell signing and Evans being sold on.

Incidentally who headed it across to Cresswell to hit the keepers from 5 yards out yesterday?

Maybe he'll miraculously turn it around second half of the season but if other players are fit he won't get a look-in and nor does he deserve to.

Well he's done more than Cresswell for starters.