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Les said:
I gather the only talks that have happened has been between Maupay's agent and Sheff U or someone acting for Sheff U. There's been no contact between the clubs. That's not an illegal approach btw - an agent can talk to whoever he or she likes. If Sheff U make a bid that Brentford accept, Maupay will hop on a plane back from Austria knowing that a package is already in place. He's the one who signs the contract though so there'll be other things he'll want to be happy about. I'm convinced this will run for a while yet and would be amazed if other clubs aren't in exactly the same place as you..
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As good as he is, I'd rather move on than see this drag out for weeks. Mcburnie would soon replace him as my target signing. Follow that with roofe. Two players (one of which is slightly worse (slightly ever so slightly) for the same price (or around about) quoted for maupay. Though I do hope a deal is brokered by end of play Friday.
 
Danetheblade said:
As good as he is, I'd rather move on than see this drag out for weeks. Mcburnie would soon replace him as my target signing. Follow that with roofe. Two players (one of which is slightly worse (slightly ever so slightly) for the same price (or around about) quoted for maupay. Though I do hope a deal is brokered by end of play Friday.
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The only way I can see that happening is if only you have a bid accepted and he's that keen to go to you, he's not interested in waiting to see if anyone else will bid. If 3 or 4 are in for him, that's more clubs that need to agree a fee with us and then Maupay to speak to each club and decide. Realistically, as you're a newly promoted Prem club, if an established club is interested (e.g Burnley, Newcastle) then you have some pretty stiff competition.
 
Deano said:
I think we want him but it seems we’re still not prepared to pay what it takes to get decent quality players. Difficult to accept in the Championship but no excuse for it now, with the Premier League millions. We should have done our business early and got the players bedded in during pre-season.

I’m not suggesting spending all the money, as Fulham did, but I think with 2 or 3 quality additions we would have a good chance of staying up, which would pay for these transfers several times over.

Even if we spent £20m on Maupay, he would probably be worth more than that in 12 months after a season in the Premier League - so if McCabe is still in charge then (please no) he could still cash in as he normally does.
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You’re so wrong Delano.

Maupay is a big risk, he’s only ever had ONE good season in the Championshop
And NEVER played in the PL. So he’s only at Championship level and could be a dud in the PL.
Freeman has a better pedigree than a Maupay, maintaining better form for longer.

Dwight Gale has a much better record in the Championship but he struggles at Premier League level.
The whole point of going for untested lower league strikers is because we are only buying potential.
Players with potential tend to be cheap, so putting a valuation of 20 million on Maupay is unrealistic and no one will pay it.
We can get better for less than 20 million. The big advantage with Maupay is, like a Brooks, he’s young and may improve.
If Maupay is average again at Brentford next season he’ll be worth 5 million tops.
Personally think we should call their bluff and have other contingency plans elsewhere.

People seem to be celebrating if we bought Maupay and McBurnie but they could both be very underwhelming in the PL next season.
 
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Les said:
The only way I can see that happening is if only you have a bid accepted and he's that keen to go to you, he's not interested in waiting to see if anyone else will bid. If 3 or 4 are in for him, that's more clubs that need to agree a fee with us and then Maupay to speak to each club and decide. Realistically, as you're a newly promoted Prem club, if an established club is interested (e.g Burnley, Newcastle) then you have some pretty stiff competition.
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Newcastle are more likely to go down than us.
 
Les said:
The only way I can see that happening is if only you bid and he's that keen to go to you, he's not interested in waiting to see if anyone else will bid. If 3 or 4 are in for him, that's more clubs that need to agree a fee with us and then Maupay to speak to each club and decide. Realistically, as you're a newly promoted Prem club, if an established club is interested (e.g Burnley, Newcastle) then you have some pretty stiff competition.
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That's a good point. Hence why I can't be arsed with all the messing about. Wouldnt agree with the comment regarding Newcastle, seems they're hell-bent on relegation this year. Ashleys debating s firesale with this apparent takeover spoke to a good friend who's a big Newcastle fan. He's somewhat dreading the start of this season. More particularly seeing the line up come the first game. Though I understand what you mean when you say established. All about the money.
 
Pinchy said:
Can you get it through your granite skull that we owe him over £100m for subsidising our losses for two decades? He’s never called in a penny. He could do now, but he won’t.

Funny definition of ‘cashing in’.

Do let us have an opinion on aspects of our club other than the owners if you ever form one, won’t you? Don’t be a stranger now...
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Not sure who 'we' is but you're welcome to owe £100m if you're feeling particularly generous.
It's the owner or owners' business and if he/they choose to spend money to keep it going or sell players that's ultimately their prerogative but they do retain control of the asset itself.
There's always the potential option of cashing in should the asset become particularly valuable - or going to court when it becomes apparent you might not be able to after all.
Doubt Maupay's worth £20m whoever owns the club but with the money now rolling in the business can afford it either way.
 
Les, you are obviously close to the club, do you know anybody at your club called Peter Frost?
 
Plan B and C is all well and good but we dont even know how far off we are, regardless of what Brenford fans tell us.
Our bid was probably £12m with £5m add ons, what if £14m plus add ons will get this over the line.
Maupay and Mcburnie seem to be/are Widers first choices for a reason and Chris is usually more than willing to play the long game to get his main men.
I'm not a 'fuck it, pay the money' fan but I will show more patience than most when it comes to deals of this scale.
 

Does anybody actually know how a football club makes a bid for a player? The actual full process of placing a bid? You'd think it would be as simple as sending an email or making a phone call and offering a specific amount of cash, but then you hear news items of clubs "preparing to make a bid." Wtf does that mean? Is there repercussions for making a bid and it being rejected? If not, what takes so long to make one for a player a club has identified as the right target?

I'm not taking the piss either. I want to know why it takes so long.
 
Guesty said:
Good, it was a trick question. If you'd said 'yes' we'd have known you were a liar.

Like Gordon Jackson answering in English in The Great Escape.
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'Good Luck ' as he got off the train. 'Thanks' he smilingly replied. Sly German twats.
 
bladesmanluke said:
Does anybody actually know how a football club makes a bid for a player? The actual full process of placing a bid? You'd think it would be as simple as sending an email or making a phone call and offering a specific amount of cash, but then you hear news items of clubs "preparing to make a bid." Wtf does that mean? Is there repercussions for making a bid and it being rejected? If not, what takes so long to make one for a player a club has identified as the right target?

I'm not taking the piss either. I want to know why it takes so long.
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I read earlier that almost all negotiations between a club and the player's agent are done via WhatsApp believe it or not. Think I got it from the independent.

I might be wrong but I think a buying club can approach a player's agent without permission from the player's current club. I'd then suppose if there is interest from the player and his agent then permission must be sort from the selling club for the buying club to speak to the player. Not sure at what point an offer is put in though.


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makblade said:
I read earlier that almost all negotiations between a club and the player's agent are done via WhatsApp believe it or not. Think I got it from the independent.

I might be wrong but I think a buying club can approach a player's agent without permission from the player's current club. I'd then suppose if there is interest from the player and his agent then permission must be sort from the selling club for the buying club to speak to the player. Not sure at what point an offer is put in though.


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So the agents for all their millions don't have to talk face to face or even over the phone.

Sounds about right.
 
Ricky said:
So the agents for all their millions don't have to talk face to face or even over the phone.

Sounds about right.
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Seems about right. Think they have an instant record of what's been said from start to finish.
 
Deano said:
I think we want him but it seems we’re still not prepared to pay what it takes to get decent quality players. Difficult to accept in the Championship but no excuse for it now, with the Premier League millions. We should have done our business early and got the players bedded in during pre-season.

I’m not suggesting spending all the money, as Fulham did, but I think with 2 or 3 quality additions we would have a good chance of staying up, which would pay for these transfers several times over.

Even if we spent £20m on Maupay, he would probably be worth more than that in 12 months after a season in the Premier League - so if McCabe is still in charge then (please no) he could still cash in as he normally does.
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Wilder has a budget. He’s already stated he’s more than happy with what he’s been given. It’s quite obviously healthy considering CW is interested in signing both Maupay AND McBurnie. (this after the Freeman signing)
If we aren’t prepared to pay what CW might feel is over the odds then what’s the problem? Would you go to the pub and hand over a fiver for a pint?
So we should have done our business early and bedded everyone in for pre season despite the fact others weren’t prepared to sell at the time and players etc were on holiday? How would you have forced that then?
Ahh. If in doubt blame McCabe.
 
spongebobblade said:
Wilder has a budget. He’s already stated he’s more than happy with what he’s been given. It’s quite obviously healthy considering CW is interested in signing both Maupay AND McBurnie. (this after the Freeman signing)
If we aren’t prepared to pay what CW might feel is over the odds then what’s the problem? Would you go to the pub and hand over a fiver for a pint?
So we should have done our business early and bedded everyone in for pre season despite the fact others weren’t prepared to sell at the time and players etc were on holiday? How would you have forced that then?
Ahh. If in doubt blame McCabe.
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You wouldn't get much change from a fiver these days anyway.
 

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