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I dont know whether things like this matter anymore but Holgate is from Donny and played at Barnsley, so it would be close to home again.
 

I doubt wilder would hang around if he was only given that amount.
It's the premiership, get real people.
That's why I refuse to believe we will get mentioned budget.
 
Wright1889 said:
Reece James and Hendo on loan would be my two choices.

Watkins, Madine, Robinson, Fer, maybe Mikel as backup for fleck (but if we get Reece James then no need), new Lwb competition. Possibly a like for like for Duffy to who can control the final third rather than using dynamism that you’ll get from Robinson.

That’s what I think anyway haha.
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MADINE!? you must've been pissed when you wrote that surely!?
 
S40BLADE said:
That's not part of it though how can Huddersfield suddenly go up and spend 50m meanwhile we go up with a slightly better team and not even get half the budget in a time in which more money is given to promotion teams, it doesn't add up. And to answer your question long enough to get pissed off at the lack of progress at the highest level at this club.
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Their owners were looking forward not backwards.
 
From the pig end said:
We don't know how much we will get, to some £20m is an insult, to others it makes sense.
We don't know how much teams are really asking for when it comes to our targets and their wages are just as murky but let's try.

If Britt Assombalonga and Mcburnie would cost north of £10m then I think we are starting to draw up a Plan B, if the reports on Rodriguez are true then I think he's a no brainer and changes things up quite a lot.

- Deano on loan

- I would try and get wing back cover with our one remaining loan.

- Mikel or Fer for free.

- Freeman for £6m or Watkins for no more than £8m.

- Rodriguez for (reported) £5m

- Robinson £7m

Would that do it?
That would add quite a bit of pace, athleticism and experience. Does it add enough goals though?
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Save £7M - don't buy Robinson. He's very ordinary imo. I'd rather drop down the divisions and find someone out of non-league to take a punt on. Same with Freeman - man, that ship sailed years ago when he was at Stevenage - that's when we should have bought him. I know he's still a decent player, but he'll be on big wages at QPR and not really needing to play to bust a gut every week, like he'll have to do here. We just don't need players like that.
 
From the pig end said:
You're probably right, I think I've bought into the 'value for money' bit and how much he could have gone for last year part.
I don't massively rate him but at that price we simply can't do any better.

I read a great post on here though explaining why long term (even at £12m) Mcburnie would be good value.
If I stick to my rule in this thread though, we can't make it work if one player eats up that much budget.
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I don't rate him that much either but at that price hell have a choice of about 10 Premier League clubs.

I'd like to think he'd choose us but question it.

He's on Premier League wages already and at that fee he'll see a great opportunity to negotiate even higher wages and any club will still think they're getting a good acquisition.

Maupay £25m ? maybe. Watkins £10m Robinson £12m McBurnie £12m. all at the very least. Different money because clubs know what money there is at this level
 
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From the pig end said:
We don't know how much we will get, to some £20m is an insult, to others it makes sense.
We don't know how much teams are really asking for when it comes to our targets and their wages are just as murky but let's try.

If Britt Assombalonga and Mcburnie would cost north of £10m then I think we are starting to draw up a Plan B, if the reports on Rodriguez are true then I think he's a no brainer and changes things up quite a lot.

- Deano on loan

- I would try and get wing back cover with our one remaining loan.

- Mikel or Fer for free.

- Freeman for £6m or Watkins for no more than £8m.

- Rodriguez for (reported) £5m

- Robinson £7m

Would that do it?
That would add quite a bit of pace, athleticism and experience. Does it add enough goals though?
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Where did you get that £20m figure from? ;)
 
Woodwardfan said:
Where did you get that £20m figure from? ;)
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Bloody hell they've all got on at me about that haven't they? It was only hypothetical to see who people would buy with a made up (and possible worse case scenario) figure. 😤
 
From the pig end said:
Bloody hell they've all got on at me about that haven't they? It was only hypothetical to see who people would buy with a made up (and possible worse case scenario) figure. 😤
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Name your source man! Thing is any figure below £40m is worrying.

Maybe our wage bill was £20 -£25m last season, bottom third in the Championship apparently whatever it was.

It's a big leap into the Premier League from there.

With a 23 man squad the average wage was therefore £20k per week ( 23 into £23m) That surprises me, where are my sums wrong? The new budget adds to that.

For the extra, take a mix of loanees and signings. Maybe an odd free transfer or two. Sharp said last week we need to sign players with Premier League experience.

What will Jagielka be on? Will he accept £40k a week = £2m.
Mikel another £2m.

Dowell £ no idea - £500k?
Abraham £1m? ( I know, he'll never come but we need that level of quality and one like him would be a cheap way)
Henderson £1m? All three probably more than that.

McBurnie £1.8m plus £14m transfer fee
Madine £1.5m and say £3m fee.

Total £26.8m

I have to emphasise these are all guesswork but will be in the 'ballpark', understated if anything. Roughly that's what we get for that sort of 'guesswork' money. Not bad but no pace. A mix of signings that would not unsettle the dressing room.

Maybe add Hogan or Marriott instead of Madine but Marriott would be more expensive, Hogan maybe a bit less.

Sell Baldock to Celtic for £8m and save his wage, then things get more interesting.

Adams to Spurs we get another £4m. Brooks to Man City we get another £10m.
 
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Akinbiyi said:
We wouldn't stay up on £20mil. Infact it'd be insulting to Chris. We simply have too much to spend in expensive areas on expensive skills. We can't even fill our bench at the minute and a quality striker will cost around £12mil upwards of which we need 2 minimum. It's hard to even guess fee's these days because they're so random.

But since you're asking me I'll give it a go:
Jay Rodriguez (£5mil reported release clause, but overall fee with sign on fee and wages would be well in excess of £12mil... but that's not what you asked :))
Lukas Jutkiewicz (£4mil)
John Obi Mikel (free)
Yoann Barbet (free)
Henderson (loan, with fee)
Reece James (loan, with fee)
Luke Freeman (£5mil)
Ben Osborn (£3mil)
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You've got nowt left to pay their wages.

Wilder will have an overall budget of £X, that he appears to be happy with.

There's no way that it would be split into separate components of transfer fees, agents fees, and wages.

It just wouldn't make sense.
 
Maidenhead said:
You've got nowt left to pay their wages.

Wilder will have an overall budget of £X, that he appears to be happy with.

There's no way that it would be split into separate components of transfer fees, agents fees, and wages.

It just wouldn't make sense.
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Jesus Christ mate it’s hard enough to guess their transfer fees nevermind their wages

It’s just a game
 
Tezza1889 said:
Sadly the 20m is possibly correct, the "flexible" part that Wilder mentioned was in relation to player sales I'd imagine, in effect any you sell you get the funds for the transfer kitty..

Then the Baldock to Celtic rumour started.... Think on.
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Wilder said he was happy with what he got whatever that is so leave him too it.
Cant see £20 million being a competitive budget so it must be more.The club arnt going to splash the news of how big it is,let's see who we get and back em !!!!!!!!
 
If £20m is all Wilder has been given after the fantastic work he’s done at the club, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him managing elsewhere by November.

The sooner we get this court case sorted the better. We have a golden opportunity and if problems in the boardroom are what stops us from grasping that opportunity, the fans will never forgive McCabe and the Prince.
 
Tom Bott said:
So the owners are a joke and the budget is a joke, yet we still keep climbing.

We had exactly the same debate when we were promoted to the Championship maybe all these posts are just cut and paste from then.

Don't forget to add 20/30 million in wages to the joke budget and funds for January.

Oh when you add all that up you have spent 70/80 million in your joke budget.
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thats about right from august to August we should turn over about 110 million so a football budget of about 70 to 80 million seems about right ,another 10 m on running costs, leaving a nice amount cash in hand and a Nice dividend for the investors ,jobs a good un
 
Wright1889 said:
Not at all, he’s a completely different striker to what we currently have/are in for.

We are going to need that kind of outlet this season more than we did in League 1 and the championship.
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Forgive me for not agreeing.
Madine isn't good enough for the prem, he came to us as he couldn't make it into a relegated Cardiff team.
We need to be aiming higher than Madine, and Jay Rodriguez is a good start, we do need another, but we need to forget Hogan and Madine.
I'd rather get a young prospect than eather of those.
 
twofootedtackle said:
thats about right from august to August we should turn over about 110 million so a football budget of about 70 to 80 million seems about right ,another 10 m on running costs, leaving a nice amount cash in hand and a Nice dividend for the investors ,jobs a good un
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The key is making the budget available to spend in time for the players to settle in before the start of the season.

£80m is a pipe-dream with the owners in High Court and both hoping to leave the club a.s.a.p. £40m unlikely too.

Burnley last season. £80m wages. £80m transfer fees.

I actually think Wilder would find that obscene and putting at risk his dressing room unity. There's a balance he will strike.
 
Mario1889 said:
If £20m is all Wilder has been given after the fantastic work he’s done at the club, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him managing elsewhere by November.

The sooner we get this court case sorted the better. We have a golden opportunity and if problems in the boardroom are what stops us from grasping that opportunity, the fans will never forgive McCabe and the Prince.
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Is that the same McCabe and Prince that have just funded us from League 1 to the Premier League?

Right pair of twats
 
Good point by Woody. It’s not just about what we spend on transfer fees, it’s what we spend on wages. wages, if we’re going to splash £20m on transfer fees then the wages are going to be even more than that.

Gotta be careful thanuz!
 
Akinbiyi said:
‘Funded’

If they didn’t have a pair of miracle workers in charge we’d still be in League one.
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Who appointed the "miracle workers"

And

Who covered the losses to pay the players?

They may not have a lot to give but it's fair to say that without the pair of them we would be heading downwards not upwards
as I haven't noticed an army of white knights charging in to help us out.
 
Maidenhead said:
Is that the same McCabe and Prince that have just funded us from League 1 to the Premier League?

Right pair of twats
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Yep, but think it’s obvious to everyone they ain’t got the disposable wealth to stay in the game. £20m could be true cause both will want to leave with full pockets.
 

Blade56 said:
Yep, but think it’s obvious to everyone they ain’t got the disposable wealth to stay in the game. £20m could be true cause both will want to leave with full pockets.
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We know that they don't have the money to invest but what evidence is there that they want to leave with full pockets?

Half the Premiership income wouldn't replace what McCabe has spent, never mind fill his pockets.

If the two of them.walk away with full.pockets it will.be from selling their shares not purloining the club's funds.
 
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