Sheffield United under a Labour government...

[Sparky The Blade]

'if they can get the technology to scale which is the current issue to be resolved'.. well apart from that 'minor' issue we're sorted easy ..

and from the link you posted..
'With the blockchain network able to accurately track the movement of funds, professionals dealing with disputes, failure of transactions and assisting customers with transactions will be made obsolete.
We won’t need fraud and risk analysts, wire specialists, even banks tellers and clerks.'
everything will run perfectly then.. heh. i'll believe all that when i see it although fraud should be considerably reduced at least in the short term i'll give you that

Hard to corrupt a public ledger that everyone has access to. If you try to make changes fraudulently your ledger becomes different from everybody else's and you will not receive verification. The only way to do it would be to change all the ledgers and that is impossible.

Many scaling options are on the table and being worked on. Bitcoin Cash is increasing the Blocksize, Bitcoin Core has a 2nd layer that sits above called the lightning network. Etherium has several 2nd layer options too. The scaling answer isn't that far away (within 5 years it will be done).

 

[Harrisblade]

Hard to corrupt a public ledger that everyone has access to. If you try to make changes fraudulently your ledger becomes different from everybody else's and you will not receive verification. The only way to do it would be to change all the ledgers and that is impossible.

Many scaling options are on the table and being worked on. Bitcoin Cash is increasing the Blocksize, Bitcoin Core has a 2nd layer that sits above called the lightning network. Etherium has several 2nd layer options too. The scaling answer isn't that far away (within 5 years it will be done).

Not the place to go to change my £20 note into a tenner, a fiver, 4 £1 coins and 2 50p's then?

 

[nopigfansintown]

If we have another vote, it’s still democratic though. It’s still ‘asking the people’. It’s not like Parliament simply overriding the referendum results.

They haven't implemented the first vote yet so on that basis it's antidemocratic imo.You can't have a second general election before the winner of the previous one has assumed power. A second vote to determine what Brexit we have, I'd have more sympathy with; although I personally assumed 'leave' implied out of the single market and the customs union. Admittedly, It wasn't stated explicitly, so I could just about stomach a referendum on that basis.

 

[super_pig]

They haven't implemented the first vote yet so on that basis it's antidemocratic imo.You can't have a second general election before the winner of the previous one has assumed power. A second vote to determine what Brexit we have, I'd have more sympathy with; although I personally assumed 'leave' implied out of the single market and the customs union. Admittedly, It wasn't stated explicitly, so I could just about stomach a referendum on that basis.

the definitive reply. good work mate

 

[Eskimo]

The careers officers at schools who point the kids towards these courses have a lot to answer for.too. These dimwits need suing for misselling, same as the banks and PPI.

That’s really funny, or would be if it wasn’t so ridiculous

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

Labour

 

[nopigfansintown]

oh fuck me another Antifa keyboard warrior.. how was the banking bailout a socialist policy?? they were simply underwritten by the tax payer .. i never read that in Marx Engels .. perhaps you could point me to it?

There was other routes that could've been taken. Let the banks go bust, like other businesses, and have the government underwrite stakeholders cash (they've basically done this anyway, but they have zero control of those banks operations). I agree, it was inverted socialism.Socialism for the rich. The other scandal is not fundamentally changing rules for speculators, so this is a ticking time bomb that will recur.In capitalism there has to be a heaven and hell.

 

[Sparky The Blade]

Not the place to go to change my £20 note into a tenner, a fiver, 4 £1 coins and 2 50p's then?

Ha, Blockchain is a FIAT replacement altogether. In a Blockchain world, the deal you described would be a good one, you would be swapping one bit of paper in exchange for one bit of paper and some metal!

 

[The Crab]

You'll be able to buy one a few years after Corbyn takes us back to the seventies.

Fantastic. It's high time the Austin Princess made a comeback

 

[metalblade]

'Since its conference opened in Liverpool on Sunday, Labour has already announced plans for worker representation on company boards....

Under Labour's "inclusive ownership fund" proposal, Mr McDonnell said workers would be given a financial stake in their employers and more say over how companies are run.

Firms would have to put 1% of their shares into the fund every year up to a maximum of 10%.

The amount of share capital available to workers would be capped at £500, with the rest - estimated at £2.1bn a year by the end of a five-year Parliamentary term - going into a fund to pay for public services and welfare.

'Broadening of ownership'
The scheme would apply to companies with more than 250 workers, although smaller firms could set up inclusive ownership funds if they wanted to.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45621361

How do people think this will affect us?

We have more than 250 workers so I wonder what say they will have over how SUFC is run....

I wouldn't worry too much about this FMBlade1 the chances of a Labour Gov't are next to zero especially with Corbyn and the lefties running the show.

 

[Bladesman]

Is this general chat?

 

[McGrath]

bring it on. i reckon the antics of Macron/Barnier and Tusk have hardened a lot of opinions. however (and this is the kicker).. that isn't the point. you can't just keep asking for another vote.. another vote until you win. i'm sure there won't be another vote to make sure once they get the result they are after (see France, Ireland)

I wish Barnier and Tusk were negotiating for Britain. You should vent your ire at the incompetents in our government and the idiot posh boys who told us all Bexit would be easy and Jonny Foreigner would cave in to our demands

 

[McGrath]

He's at Man Utd mate.Not sure he's leave to join us.

Is Maureen a 'he' now?

 

[super_pig]

I wish Barnier and Tusk were negotiating for Britain. You should vent your ire at the incompetents in our government and the idiot posh boys who told us all Bexit would be easy and Jonny Foreigner would cave in to our demands

they're not negotiating though. they just say 'no' .. 'no' to everything without any clarification of why and their position. that's not negotiating. Barnier and Tusk think they're so cool and clever and are patting themselves on the back but in their hubris have forgot something fundamental. Part of the negotiation is to decide a divorce bill. if there is no agreement there will be no bill to pay

 

[super_pig]

Ha, Blockchain is a FIAT replacement altogether. In a Blockchain world, the deal you described would be a good one, you would be swapping one bit of paper in exchange for one bit of paper and some metal!

there will always be cash transactions for the near future at least.. as far as i understand it, blockchain is a glorified distributed ledger system.. the only effects i can see would be on back office staff

 

[Sparky The Blade]

there will always be cash transactions for the near future at least.. as far as i understand it, blockchain is a glorified distributed ledger system.. the only effects i can see would be on back office staff

Of course there will be cash until the technology is there and adoption has peaked. It’s design is to replace FIAT altogether. FIAT would not be needed. It is a ledger but being built into numerous products, smart contracts and such like.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Is Maureen a 'he' now?

Mourinho's nickname.

 

[Harrisblade]

they're not negotiating though. they just say 'no' .. 'no' to everything without any clarification of why and their position. that's not negotiating. Barnier and Tusk think they're so cool and clever and are patting themselves on the back but in their hubris have forgot something fundamental. Part of the negotiation is to decide a divorce bill. if there is no agreement there will be no bill to pay

This article might help explain it (from 2017 but I think it covers the nuts and bolts even today)
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...eu-cant-negotiate_uk_5a0ed821e4b023121e0e91be

 

[Sikkim]

Keynesian multiplier. Injecting public money into the banks to prop up the economy. It’s a mainstay of traditional left wing economics but usually done by injecting money into public services and infrastructure (which we also did post 2008).

It was funny how many labour politicians became keynesians post 2008, despite doing the exact opposite of Keynesianism for the previous half decade.

 

[BushBlade]

They haven't implemented the first vote yet so on that basis it's antidemocratic imo.You can't have a second general election before the winner of the previous one has assumed power. A second vote to determine what Brexit we have, I'd have more sympathy with; although I personally assumed 'leave' implied out of the single market and the customs union. Admittedly, It wasn't stated explicitly, so I could just about stomach a referendum on that basis.

Well you can’t implement the first vote and then have another referendum. How is having another vote, asking the same people the same question ‘antidemocratic’? I just don’t understand the concept in this context.

I think if there’s a hung parliament another general election could be held rather than trying to form a minority government.

As I said in my previous post, anti democratic would have been ignoring the outcome of the referendum, having a final ‘are you sure’ referendum can’t be anti democratic, it’s still going to show ‘the will of the people’.

 

[BushBlade]

It was funny how many labour politicians became keynesians post 2008, despite doing the exact opposite of Keynesianism for the previous half decade.

I was answering a specific question. I don’t usually get involved in these threads, or ever go on general chat, as I’m only really bothered about discussing football. I only contributed to this because I was interested in why some posters are so against a second referendum.

I’ve got nothing more to add to this thread.

 

[Dkc]

I wouldn't worry too much about this FMBlade1 the chances of a Labour Gov't are next to zero especially with Corbyn and the lefties running the show.

Bookies have him as favourite to be the next PM, which wouldn't be the case if his chances are next to zero. I'd say there's an even chance of Labour forming the next govt (possibly with the support of the Lib Dems). Agree that Ms. Abbott shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the front bench

 

[Sparky The Blade]

I used to vote Labour in the 80s and 90s, but if the two IRA supporting scumbag loons Corbyn and McDonnell gets in, this country is f***ed.

I've never voted Conservative on principal after what Thatcher did to Sheffield in the 80s, however if Boris Johnson was the leader I'd be giving serious consideration to voting Tory for the first time. If not I'll stick with UKIP.

In other words “I believe all the bullshit and lies that I am fed”.

 

[Sparky The Blade]

oh fuck me another Antifa keyboard warrior.. how was the banking bailout a socialist policy?? they were simply underwritten by the tax payer .. i never read that in Marx Engels .. perhaps you could point me to it?

It was part nationalisation of some banks. The state owned a large chunk of these banks. If you don’t think nationalisation is socialism then you don’t know what socialism is.

What was wrong with this venture was that socialism stopped at the funding model. The business model remained very much capitalist.

 

[Rodley]

One upside is that if Corbyn gets in power they will have to have fewer Category A tickets as we’ll be in recession.

 

[Fulwood Blade]

One upside is that if Corbyn gets in power they will have to have fewer Category A tickets as we’ll be in recession.

ahh yes, but season tickets will be halved as we have red seats - the pigs prices will be doubled as they have blue seats

UTB

 

[McGrath]

they're not negotiating though. they just say 'no' .. 'no' to everything without any clarification of why and their position. that's not negotiating. Barnier and Tusk think they're so cool and clever and are patting themselves on the back but in their hubris have forgot something fundamental. Part of the negotiation is to decide a divorce bill. if there is no agreement there will be no bill to pay

What they're doing is a classic negotiating technique. They are in the strong position and are using it, they will say no no for months because the longer time goes by the weaker position we will be in which means we are more likely to accept the deal they want. Also... They have been clarifying their position all summer which is that this Chequers deal is incompatible with the single market given that May won't budge on her red lines, therefore the only thing on offer will be a Canada style deals which probably won't be good for large British manufacturers but is what leading Brexiteers want.

I don't think highly intellectual, well educated international statesmen think they're "so cool" I think they probably think they doing the best thing possible for the citizens of the countries remaining within the EU

 

[Houston_Blade]

Politics threads really remind me of this song:

 

[Sean Thornton]

I was answering a specific question. I don’t usually get involved in these threads, or ever go on general chat, as I’m only really bothered about discussing football. I only contributed to this because I was interested in why some posters are so against a second referendum.

I’ve got nothing more to add to this thread.

 

[The Crab]

heh.. except they don't inject anything.. fiat currency is just made up money by the banks. you have to have someone to underwrite it. they don't go to some warehouse and load a billion's worth of tenners into the back of a van.. anyways. about blockchain..

Vern's gutted, he'd got the shooters and everything.......................