Played 3 of the top 6........and guess what?

[8lade]

In answer to the question posed in the OP - we’re still in the top 6 ourselves.......

We need to stop beating ourselves up about this.

 

[Yewsman]

We won 3 out of 12 against the top 6 last season.

We didn't miss the play offs because we failed to beat teams at the top it was more that we had poor results against teams at the bottom e.g. Bolton (H), QPR (A), Hull (A) and gave away silly goals to teams like Cardiff and Milwall when we should have won.

 

[DronnieBlade]

A minimum of 6 points is required for what to happen? Realistically we are a top 10 side with a chance of the play-offs if we over perform. Why do we so desperately need to win the next 2 and what happens if we don't?

Right.

I’m not expecting you, and many others, to “get” this.

We are 5th. Just after a defeat.

We play good football.

We have a good manager.

We have good players.

We ARE a genuine promotion contender. Most other clubs managers, players and fans recognise this. Shame a boatload of our own fans do not !!

I do. I genuinely think we should now aspire at least to a P.O. spot.

As such, my post was “suggesting” that in order to push on again, and further raise expectation levels, we MUST aspire to beat lowly placed sides. Especially at home.

The alternative is to aspire to an unspectacular, unambitious mid table campaign.

You know where I stand on this.

UTB

 

[Houston_Blade]

Right.

I’m not expecting you, and many others, to “get” this.

We are 5th. Just after a defeat.

We play good football.

We have a good manager.

We have good players.

We ARE a genuine promotion contender. Most other clubs managers, players and fans recognise this. Shame a boatload of our own fans do not !!

I do. I genuinely think we should now aspire at least to a P.O. spot.

As such, my post was “suggesting” that in order to push on again, and further raise expectation levels, we MUST aspire to beat lowly placed sides. Especially at home.

The alternative is to aspire to an unspectacular, unambitious mid table campaign.

You know where I stand on this.

UTB

I like how you think you have some form of Bladey high ground because you consider us a "genuine promotion contender" and I still think that it's something that remains to be seen.

As you say, we have good players, a good manager and play good football. Some other teams in our league also do this as well and as the season goes on some will get better, some will get worse and some will stay the same.

It's September, we don't have must win games yet and I don't think we need to get overly critical if we don't beat Birmingham as long as we put in a decent performance.

I don't think anyone aspires to be a mid-table also ran, I'd be upset if we don't finish top 10 and have a good crack at the play offs, but I'm not getting all dramatic about it a few games into the season, we were top further into last season and ended up mid table so it shows how things can change fairly quickly. Losses now aren't a disaster, it's how we play and how we react to a loss that matters.

 

[DronnieBlade]

I like how you think you have some form of Bladey high ground because you consider us a "genuine promotion contender" and I still think that it's something that remains to be seen.

As you say, we have good players, a good manager and play good football. Some other teams in our league also do this as well and as the season goes on some will get better, some will get worse and some will stay the same.

It's September, we don't have must win games yet and I don't think we need to get overly critical if we don't beat Birmingham as long as we put in a decent performance.

I don't think anyone aspires to be a mid-table also ran, I'd be upset if we don't finish top 10 and have a good crack at the play offs, but I'm not getting all dramatic about it a few games into the season, we were top further into last season and ended up mid table so it shows how things can change fairly quickly. Losses now aren't a disaster, it's how we play and how we react to a loss that matters.

Bladey high ground.



Pinch will be impressed with that !!

I don’t doubt your wrong fwiw. Much water to go under many bridges. After 7 games, nothing is achieved at this early stage.

But let’s also consider that the typically Yorkshire dour / defeatist/ woe is now attitude many of ours fans regularly demonstrate really should be going in room 101.

It’s time !!!!!

UTB

 

[oldblade]

Lost all 3.
Not sure how we fared last season against top 6 clubs without looking,but as the teacher said...."must do better".

Villa and Bolton were both in the top 6 when we actually played them. We were the first side to inflict defeat on both of them. (Still the only side to have beaten Villa).

Also, I think it is pretty likely that Villa will be back in the top six come the end of the season.

 

[oldblade]

We won 3 out of 12 against the top 6 last season.

We did also draw 3!

 

[grafikhaus]

Bladey high ground.



Pinch will be impressed with that !!

I don’t doubt your wrong fwiw. Much water to go under many bridges. After 7 games, nothing is achieved at this early stage.

But let’s also consider that the typically Yorkshire dour / defeatist/ woe is now attitude many of ours fans regularly demonstrate really should be going in room 101.

It’s time !!!!!

UTB

Ah, but it's not 'typically Yorkshire dour/defeatist/woe is now attitude'. On Radio Sheffield tomorrow, it'll be...

"Aaahd like to con-gra-tu-laaate Wensdie on their fine run of form under Meeester Luhukay and Meeester Chansiri. We've beaten Stoke, Reading, Ipswich and Millwall. ( 20th, 22nd, 24th and 19th in the table.) Whereas that pub team from S2 have lost to Bristol City and luckily beat Villa, Bolton and Norwich.' (3rd, 10th, 12th and 16th).

I think I know where I'd rather be.

 

[I should coco]

We would obviously lose if we played us though

It would be Lundstrums fault....

And Clark
And Steerman
And Stephens
Perhaps Laffity too for good measure

 

[Bayingblade]

5 of our 7 games have been against (current) top half sides.

The next 2, both at home and against (current) bottom 4 opponents will really show our credentials for what they truly are. One way or another.

I hesitate to say 6 points required, but that’s what I really believe is the minimum here.

UTB.

If your minimum from the next 2 games is 6 points Dronnie, what's your maximum?

 

[DronnieBlade]

If your minimum from the next 2 games is 6 points Dronnie, what's your maximum?

And I thought I was good with numbers, but you have got me with that one !

UTB

 

[Pedro Verde]

we won't be near top 6 until we get a quality striker

I think you will find we are currently 5th
Now when I went to school that would mean we are in the top 6

 

[N20 Blade]

I like how you think you have some form of Bladey high ground because you consider us a "genuine promotion contender" and I still think that it's something that remains to be seen.

As you say, we have good players, a good manager and play good football. Some other teams in our league also do this as well and as the season goes on some will get better, some will get worse and some will stay the same.

It's September, we don't have must win games yet and I don't think we need to get overly critical if we don't beat Birmingham as long as we put in a decent performance.

I don't think anyone aspires to be a mid-table also ran, I'd be upset if we don't finish top 10 and have a good crack at the play offs, but I'm not getting all dramatic about it a few games into the season, we were top further into last season and ended up mid table so it shows how things can change fairly quickly. Losses now aren't a disaster, it's how we play and how we react to a loss that matters.

Sensible comments indeed, all I would add is that momentum and carrying consistent form into the play offs is crucial. Fulham took things to the extreme but we’re seriously under achieving (until they beat some team 5-4) in the fourth month of the season. Far better to hit top gear next May, whereas last season for lots of reasons we were a busted flush by then.