Incoming? Jack Marriott

[Rodley]

They want £6.5m for him.

 

[Snowman]

They can do one.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

They'll get 5m, McAnthony is like Levy, gets top dollar for all his players.

 

[Boxer Blade]

No chance, lets wait and see, nowhere near that figure,

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

The money we hardly spent over the last two transfer windows and the TV money for finishing in the top half this year.
We spent 2m on a right back in league 1, there's no reason to think we couldn't splash at least that in a striker this summer.
But to be honest, it's based on very little really.

TV revenue - 100k per televised home game ; 10k (!) each away game -can't be arsed to do the 'research' / mathS
NO differential 'prize' money for finishing 24th or "top (half)" - 16/17 season each club got just N of 2 million
So all in these 'revenue streams' brought in around 3 million ?

 

[SharpshootingBilly]

do we think that maybe Louis Reed could have been used as part of a deal for Marriott? seems just as feasible as it does unlikely. Seem to be seeing £6.5m as the magic number for him.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

do we think that maybe Louis Reed could have been used as part of a deal for Marriott? seems just as feasible as it does unlikely. Seem to be seeing £6.5m as the magic number for him.

I doubt it -

£6.5m minus a couple of hundred ‘000 is still well over £6mil

 

[BushBlade]

TV revenue - 100k per televised home game ; 10k (!) each away game -can't be arsed to do the 'research' / mathS
NO differential 'prize' money for finishing 24th or "top (half)" - 16/17 season each club got just N of 2 million
So all in these 'revenue streams' brought in around 3 million ?

No quite a bit more than that

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-one-promotion-championship-worth-1396662.amp

£6.7m plus £100k for every Friday home gone on TV and £120k for Saturday home games.

 

[NorthWalesBlade]

Good ol’ Twirlo on blades mad

from what ive been told two centre halfs on their way one on loan from a prem side ,and also marriot at peterborough is one of the strikers we,re in for.

 

[Booker4]

Good ol’ Twirlo on blades mad

from what ive been told two centre halfs on their way one on loan from a prem side ,and also marriot at peterborough is one of the strikers we,re in for.

Interesting. Can't see us getting MArriot but would be great if we could, That would be money spent well - even at 6.5m.

Presumably no update from Twirlo on Gallagher, Hogan and Winnall?

 

[Blade58]

Interesting. Can't see us getting MArriot but would be great if we could, That would be money spent well - even at 6.5m.

Presumably no update from Twirlo on Gallagher, Hogan and Winnall?

twirlo:

"I wouldn't be surprised,apparently hes got a list of about 14 striker targets. trouble is agents. I know I've said it before but its as if they are phoning each other and saying what their client is asking for so, say its not as much as one an other they go back an ask for more. Its a complete and utter joke, but a suppose Wilder will find out who really wants to play for us and isn't just money mad. Gallagher deal isn't dead. Wilder is weighing up whether to meet his wage demands and sign him or tell him to do one and hope an other offer comes of

 

[FTPE]

Never mind this Twirlo fella where's Sunjihi

 

[Reedy1889]

Good ol’ Twirlo on blades mad

from what ive been told two centre halfs on their way one on loan from a prem side ,and also marriot at peterborough is one of the strikers we,re in for.

Right so this is purely me speculating but some of his previous posts say, we're in for someone who's been at the world cup, we're in for players on loan from the big clubs name checking Chelsea I believe as one & now reckons we've a centre half coming in from the prem. Now should be really be ITK. My coin would be on Kenneth Omeruo being one.

 

[Danetheblade]

Right so this is purely me speculating but some of his previous posts say, we're in for someone who's been at the world cup, we're in for players on loan from the big clubs name checking Chelsea I believe as one & now reckons we've a centre half coming in from the prem. Now should be really be ITK. My coin would be on Kenneth Omeruo being one.

Hoping and praying Marriott is the one. Id be willing to place a wager on him being top scorer for us next season if true.

 

[coolhandluke]

No quite a bit more than that

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....-one-promotion-championship-worth-1396662.amp

£6.7m plus £100k for every Friday home gone on TV and £120k for Saturday home games.

I can't be arsed working the exact figure out but that gives us close to 8 million doesn't it ? With gate money sponsorship and merchandise that could mean income of 12 million or more ? No wonder HRH has hidden his shares down the back of the settee

 

[Upton_Blade]

Interesting. Can't see us getting MArriot but would be great if we could, That would be money spent well - even at 6.5m.

Presumably no update from Twirlo on Gallagher, Hogan and Winnall?

I can see this happening if we can't get any of the others targets to fit within the budget wages wise.

Will be a big fee but would surely fit within the wage structure as to not put anyones nose out of joint.

I know we've pretty much all said we need championship quality in a few key areas but thinking about it logically surely a striker in the form of his life stepping up from the league below on decent wages is less of a gamble than breaking the bank for a striker with championship experience but in shit form.

 

[FriethBlade]

Upton i largely agree....but thats why Reading have signed McNulty and there arent many on here who think that will work out

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Upton i largely agree....but thats why Reading have signed McNulty and there arent many on here who think that will work out

This is an excellent point based on expectations.

Had mcnulty not played for us I’m sure plenty would have looked at his record over his time in England (basically top scorer everywhere he’s been bar Bradford) and concluded he’s well worth a punt.

My concern with Marriott is it’s a massive gamble as he’s never done it at this level - is he just a slightly better mcnulty? Not one I’d be comfortable with us blowing huge money on imo (upwards of a couple of million.) That said given we could probably pay his wages maybe it will happen...

 

[FTPE]

Unproven
Hungry
Not done it at this level
Great in league 1
Not massive wages
Young

How could he be any more of a Wilder type signing?

 

[Reedy1889]

Unproven
Hungry
Not done it at this level
Great in league 1
Not massive wages
Young

How could he be any more of a Wilder type signing?

I agree with that it's just that transfer fee they want. £6.5million. Crazy amount and I'm fairly certain we won't be signing anyone for anywhere close to that figure.

 

[Upton_Blade]

This is an excellent point based on expectations.

Had mcnulty not played for us I’m sure plenty would have looked at his record over his time in England (basically top scorer everywhere he’s been bar Bradford) and concluded he’s well worth a punt.

My concern with Marriott is it’s a massive gamble as he’s never done it at this level - is he just a slightly better mcnulty? Not one I’d be comfortable with us blowing huge money on imo (upwards of a couple of million.) That said given we could probably pay his wages maybe it will happen...

I can see the train of thought here but a couple of points from me.

1. We've had McNulty before and know exactly what we'd be getting albeit a more confident version than when he was here due to the amount of goals he scored last season. I still don't think he'll cut it in the championship but i'm quite prepared to be proved wrong. I actually think he'd do better here than at Reading due to the chances we create and Reading being, well, just a bit shit but i wouldn't have wanted us to sign him and very much doubt CW gave him a 2nd thought.

2. Marriott scored 33 goals in an average side in League 1 which is far more impressive than McNulty scoring the amount he did for a promoted side from League 2 and in my opinion the only comparison to be made is McNulty at £1.5 million or Marriott at £5 million. Is Marriott over 3 times better than McNulty? Suppose we'll only find out next year when they're in the same division.

 

[Upton_Blade]

I agree with that it's just that transfer fee they want. £6.5million. Crazy amount and I'm fairly certain we won't be signing anyone for anywhere close to that figure.

They'll not get £6.5 million for him. Might squeeze £5 million out for him at a push but i reckon they'd probably do business at £4 million plus addons.

Looking at the various costs involved if we got Marriott, even at the top end, for £5 million on wages of 12k a week on a 3 year deal then you're looking at an total outlay of £6.87 million or just under £2.3 million per year on average with the possibility that he does really well and either fires us to promotion and stays or his value rockets and we make a tidy profit to spend on his replacement.

Take Gallagher or Hogan for instance. Probably a £1 million loan fee and wages of 20K per week for the year and that's an outlay of just over £2 million so cheaper in theory but for a player we don't own at the end of it.

I know which one i'd rather have.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

I can see the train of thought here but a couple of points from me.

1. We've had McNulty before and know exactly what we'd be getting albeit a more confident version than when he was here due to the amount of goals he scored last season. I still don't think he'll cut it in the championship but i'm quite prepared to be proved wrong. I actually think he'd do better here than at Reading due to the chances we create and Reading being, well, just a bit shit but i wouldn't have wanted us to sign him and very much doubt CW gave him a 2nd thought.

2. Marriott scored 33 goals in an average side in League 1 which is far more impressive than McNulty scoring the amount he did for a promoted side from League 2 and in my opinion the only comparison to be made is McNulty at £1.5 million or Marriott at £5 million. Is Marriott over 3 times better than McNulty? Suppose we'll only find out next year when they're in the same division.

To be fair - I hadn’t actually realised he’d got quite that many last year. Certainly worth looking into then.

I’d have been happy with us going on for ched after his league one season...

Still think c6m is very steep for a league one player but if he was to go for say 3-4m I could live with it...

 

[South Bucks]

Notice how in the court judgement details how "Sheffield" was talking about £2m for 5 new players plus £5m for their wages, circa 20k a week, and this was before the judgement. Don't see any big money signings coming our way but maybe a few loans.

 

[Topplayersleave]

Improved TV deal
Improved sponsorship
Sold a £12 million player
Got 9 players off the wage bill
So called improved budget

And still scratching around, whining about agents, whining about wages, whining about fees.
No wonder we only ever end up with what nobody else wants

People think agents hate us, but they must love us really whilst thinking we're stupid at the same time.
We offer a placement for all their has beens, never have beens, or injured clients on their books that nobody else wants.
Who'd have thought that agents could still make money out of their dross...…..It's easy just ring Sheffield United

 

[Bladezz]

Unproven
Hungry
Not done it at this level
Great in league 1
Not massive wages
Young

How could he be any more of a Wilder type signing?

£6.5million is your answer.

 

[FTPE]

£6.5million is your answer.

Nothing costs more than goals.
He can't pluck out rough diamonds forever, at some point we will need to cough up if we want to progress, though I admit it's still a risk.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Notice how in the court judgement details how "Sheffield" was talking about £2m for 5 new players plus £5m for their wages, circa 20k a week, and this was before the judgement. Don't see any big money signings coming our way but maybe a few loans.

Hmmm - that is worrying if we were anticipating 2m to be sufficient for 5 new players!

Though I suspect it is closer to 1 perminant and enough to bring in 3/4 on loan on a decent wage?

I think where are that’s all we can expect this season. We can’t afford the top end players on huge wages - it’s as simple as that so we are going to have to make do with loans.

 

[Booker4]

Improved TV deal
Improved sponsorship
Sold a £12 million player
Got 9 players off the wage bill
So called improved budget

And still scratching around, whining about agents, whining about wages, whining about fees.
No wonder we only ever end up with what nobody else wants

People think agents hate us, but they must love us really whilst thinking we're stupid at the same time.
We offer a placement for all their has beens, never have beens, or injured clients on their books that nobody else wants.
Who'd have thought that agents could still make money out of their dross...…..It's easy just ring Sheffield United

On the other hand though only 3 clubs can be promoted each season and many of our rivals overspend and then end up breaking FFP or have to be tighter to avoid breaking FFP. If it a club that's relegated from the PL with parachute payments you can understand it but of late teams without that have spent as much if not more as the relegated PL teams such as Wolves and now Forest. Ok, it paid off for Wolves but they spend so much it almost couldn't not fail. Forest have spent a lot but not as much as Wolves and if they fail they'll be screwed like they were not long ago and were subject to FFP.

 

[Topplayersleave]

On the other hand though only 3 clubs can be promoted each season and many of our rivals overspend and then end up breaking FFP or have to be tighter to avoid breaking FFP. If it a club that's relegated from the PL with parachute payments you can understand it but of late teams without that have spent as much if not more as the relegated PL teams such as Wolves and now Forest. Ok, it paid off for Wolves but they spend so much it almost couldn't not fail. Forest have spent a lot but not as much as Wolves and if they fail they'll be screwed like they were not long ago and were subject to FFP.

Bit like Wendy, for all their failure they'll be better than us next season