CONFIRMED David Brooks to Bournemouth

[Bruce Wayne]

Don't worry, Wilder had a increased transfer kitty this year now add £12m to it. We are going to sign some reet players.

 

[super_pig]

How can anyone blame him for moving on. He waa hardly a guaranteed starter last season, has a chance to set himself up for life and play at the highest level. His natural game is attacking. He's joined a great team for that. He never fitted into Wilder's style and struggled with the defensive aspect.

Glttl. He's made us a lot of money and if we have a sell-on clause it could be over £20 million in the end. We would all move for that promotion. He's only been with us two years so why should he feel some random debt of gratitude. Remember, he was all set to go to Chessie until he changed Wilder's mind.

and.. we can buy him back when we go up and bournemouth go down ( which they inevitably will)

 

[Edinblade]

So why little old Bournemouth with home crowds of 11000 and not one of the average premiership teams. Maybe no one else was interested for a reason. He struggled to get in our team and this time last year was getting shipped to Chesterfield on loan. I suppose he’ll enjoy watching the relegation battle from the bench.

 

[vorpal blade]

I find ideas that Brooks 'may not make it' pathetic.

Of course he will - he's the best player at Bramall Lane for 40 years ..... geez. some of you lot must be utterly ambitionless if you think getting £12M for a player of that quality is a good deal for the club. I'm sad and I can see Wilder leaving soon too - after all, the last interview with him that I've seen has been contradicted within a couple of weeks.

 

[vorpal blade]

So why little old Bournemouth with home crowds of 11000 and not one of the average premiership teams. Maybe no one else was interested for a reason.

Well the top teams are a bit distracted by the World Cup at the moment - it's a transfer moratorium until that ends for the biggest sides really isn't it? So Bournemouth sneak in and we fall for it - in fact you've fallen for it. Don't be daft ... ' no one else interested ' ..... rubbish - *Darius Henderson has just gone for a quick payday for himself ... no other reason....

Haven't you noticed that the big teams use the crap premier teams as feeder clubs, Hull, Bournemouth etc. buy talent at wholesale prices from hopeless clubs like ours, keep them at premier league levels of match fitness while they learn the ropes and come up to speed until they can find a gap in their squads by moving their players on (to Spain or wherever).

So Man City buy Brooks at retail price in a year's time when Bournemouth may well be relelgated but they get £50M + for him in 2020.

Great business by McCabe ........

that's it gone, he's the best player we've had for many many years and he's gone - and we haven't even got the price of a reliable, decent championship forward for him....




* because its far more profitable for agents to sell them twice, once to a shit Premier team like Bournemouth for £12M and then again after a year for £50M to City (or whoever). That's why this wholesale then retail sale goes on all the time .... Maguire, Walker etc. Bournemouth are like shopkeepers.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Have a guess.

42?

 

[Rudders]

You guys need to remember that Thorpe Park costs money to build. I for one can't wait to spend ages hunting for a parking place on Brooks Drive or Walker Avenue!

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Well the top teams are a bit distracted by the World Cup at the moment - it's a transfer moratorium until that ends for the biggest sides really isn't it? So Bournemouth sneak in and we fall for it - in fact you've fallen for it. Don't be daft ... ' no one else interested ' ..... rubbish - *Darius Henderson has just gone for a quick payday for himself ... no other reason....

Haven't you noticed that the big teams use the crap premier teams as feeder clubs, Hull, Bournemouth etc. buy talent at wholesale prices from hopeless clubs like ours, keep them at premier league levels of match fitness while they learn the ropes and come up to speed until they can find a gap in their squads by moving their players on (to Spain or wherever).

So Man City buy Brooks at retail price in a year's time when Bournemouth may well be relelgated but they get £50M + for him in 2020.

Great business by McCabe ........

that's it gone, he's the best player we've had for many many years and he's gone - and we haven't even got the price of a reliable, decent championship forward for him....




* because its far more profitable for agents to sell them twice, once to a shit Premier team like Bournemouth for £12M and then again after a year for £50M to City (or whoever). That's why this wholesale then retail sale goes on all the time .... Maguire, Walker etc. Bournemouth are like shopkeepers.

Sadly so true.

 

[WoodMillBlade]

I personally think McCabe should move on at the end of next season if we finish lower than last.

Last year Brooks said he owed us for giving him a chance after been released by Man City.
I don’t think he has had his head turned but Wilder and McCabe took the first offer so Wilder could have some money to spend.

Shows again the owners lack real ambition.

All that said if Wilder gets in the right players and we finish top six Brooks will be forgotten ( well until he goes from Bournemouth to a top six club for 60 mill).

 

[Bert]

but Wilder and McCabe took the first offer

Who told you that?

 

[Newbury Blade]

I personally think McCabe should move on at the end of next season if we finish lower than last.

Last year Brooks said he owed us for giving him a chance after been released by Man City.
I don’t think he has had his head turned but Wilder and McCabe took the first offer so Wilder could have some money to spend.

Shows again the owners lack real ambition.

All that said if Wilder gets in the right players and we finish top six Brooks will be forgotten ( well until he goes from Bournemouth to a top six club for 60 mill).

Do you people who say this bit about ambition ever actually think about what you mean?
Why do you think Bournemouth can afford this kind of money? Because they are in the Premier League.
Why would our board "lack real ambition" to get into the Premier League and have a share of that kind of money, and lots more?
Even if they are not ambitious for the club itself, which I doubt, surely they'd want it for the prestige, the status and perhaps their own business interests?
People were saying we lacked ambition when we were in League One. No one at the club, from the board down, didn't enjoy our promotion season and no one would not want more of that.
McCabe might have made mistakes but it's total bollocks to say he "lacks ambition", just a lazy cliche that makes no sense.

 

[Ginger Gnome]

I find ideas that Brooks 'may not make it' pathetic.

Of course he will - he's the best player at Bramall Lane for 40 years ..... geez. some of you lot must be utterly ambitionless if you think getting £12M for a player of that quality is a good deal for the club.

He'd stand more chance of making it if he was playing regularly this coming season. He had a few good games last season, but this one was his chance to kick on, become a regular and then step up to the top level. Trying to step up to the top level with little chance of regular time on the pitch is going to make him very rich, but might not be the best path for his development. Plenty of promising young footballers fail to achieve their full potential by signing for the wrong club at the wrong time. Jordan Slew was never going to be a world beater, but he could have been a decent Championship level player if he'd been developed properly instead of chasing the money and ending up way out of his depth.

For Brooks to 'make it' he has to play regular football.

 

[vorpal blade]

I'm sure he will - the only reason he didn't last season was because he became ill and we nurtured him back with substitute appearances. It's these games when he was off the pace, coming back from illness and had 20 minutes to try and turn a match that fellow forum members who think 'he may not make it', are remembering and that is daft.

I also don't think we would have sold Carruthers if anyone at United (Wilder) had thought this bid from Bournemouth would come now. And there's another player people will slag off while forgetting just how few chances he was given to play full games. When Coutts was injured, I must say, I expected Carruthers to fill his role because he looked very good when we first got him - anyway, it didn't happen. (btw the same people have the same brickbats for Evans who hasn't yet really had a chance, free from injury)

 

[LJBlade]

I find ideas that Brooks 'may not make it' pathetic.

Of course he will - he's the best player at Bramall Lane for 40 years ..... geez. some of you lot must be utterly ambitionless if you think getting £12M for a player of that quality is a good deal for the club. I'm sad and I can see Wilder leaving soon too - after all, the last interview with him that I've seen has been contradicted within a couple of weeks.

Genuine question. Do you think Brooks is better than Walker? Obviously they’re different players but I’m not sure I agree with Brooks being the best players at United in the last 40 years.

I definitely disagree with you about Wilder leaving because we’ve sold Brooks. Which interview were you talking about? The one where he said he has the last say on all transfer activity?

 

[RealMcCoy]

I personally think McCabe should move on at the end of next season if we finish lower than last.

Last year Brooks said he owed us for giving him a chance after been released by Man City.
I don’t think he has had his head turned but Wilder and McCabe took the first offer so Wilder could have some money to spend.

Shows again the owners lack real ambition.

All that said if Wilder gets in the right players and we finish top six Brooks will be forgotten ( well until he goes from Bournemouth to a top six club for 60 mill).

How can you finish lower than last? .

 

[vorpal blade]

Genuine question. Do you think Brooks is better than Walker? Obviously they’re different players but I’m not sure I agree with Brooks being the best players at United in the last 40 years.

Oh yes - I think he's possibly the finest English player of his age.

or Welsh depending how he self identifies in future.


I think it was Wilder's last but one interview, on the pitch at Bramall Lane about a fortnight back - he said that they wouldn't be selling any of our best players unless it was for 'silly money' or words to that effect. I must say though, I felt at the time there may be a problem on the horizon because he listed Coutts, Fleck, Duffy (I think) then Brooks as a slight afterthought .... perhaps he was troubled?

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I find ideas that Brooks 'may not make it' pathetic.

Of course he will - he's the best player at Bramall Lane for 40 years ..... geez. some of you lot must be utterly ambitionless if you think getting £12M for a player of that quality is a good deal for the club. I'm sad and I can see Wilder leaving soon too - after all, the last interview with him that I've seen has been contradicted within a couple of weeks.

He's a talented lad, with potential, but if he is our best player in 40 years, no wonder we have had such a bad time. He made an impact in perhaps 3 matches last season (extenuating circumstances, I know, with his illness), but surely a player has to be having an impact in a large number of games over several seasons to have a claim to be the best in 40 years.

 

[vorpal blade]

.... OK he was never given a chance to prove himself here - that is undoubted.


I think he will be very successful - in the end, I think he will become a very classy playmaker contributing as a reliable finisher .... for someone else.

 

[LJBlade]

Oh yes - I think he's possibly the finest English player of his age.

or Welsh depending how he self identifies in future.


I think it was Wilder's last but one interview, on the pitch at Bramall Lane about a fortnight back - he said that they wouldn't be selling any of our best players unless it was for 'silly money' or words to that effect. I must say though, I felt at the time there may be a problem on the horizon because he listed Coutts, Fleck, Duffy (I think) then Brooks as a slight afterthought .... perhaps he was troubled?

But ‘silly money’ is subjective. What it means to you or me could mean something completely different to Wilder. Wilder said he has the last day on all transfers. It stands to reason then that he’s had his say in Brooks leaving and he’s obviously said ok.

At 21 years old, with just 30 appearances, I think ‘finest player of his age’ is a big overstatement but each to their own I suppose.

 

[YES Blade]

Oh yes - I think he's possibly the finest English player of his age.

or Welsh depending how he self identifies in future.


I think it was Wilder's last but one interview, on the pitch at Bramall Lane about a fortnight back - he said that they wouldn't be selling any of our best players unless it was for 'silly money' or words to that effect. I must say though, I felt at the time there may be a problem on the horizon because he listed Coutts, Fleck, Duffy (I think) then Brooks as a slight afterthought .... perhaps he was troubled?

You could tell from a couple of matches that Walker was destined for the top, the same with Maguire.

As for Brooks, I’m still not convinced, I personally think he’s a mid table Premier League player at the very best. Fair play if he proves me wrong, but at the moment I think £12m is about right and for once I can’t criticise the club over the fee.

 

[Sean Thornton]

42?

That's right.....

 

[vorpal blade]

YES Blade are you sure you're not just trying to make yourself feel better?

LBJ - Well, that's what I think and I remember watching Walker and seeing how good he looked - it was obvious to us but his talent didn't seem to be recognised by the ownership of our once great club.

We have 2 owners, neither of whom attend most of the matches, whether Wilder really gets a final say, well, 'he who pays the piper calls the tune' - but has McCabe actually seen how good Brooks is?

 

[Sean Thornton]

YES Blade are you sure you're not just trying to make yourself feel better?

LBJ - Well, that's what I think and I remember watching Walker and seeing how good he looked - it was obvious to us but his talent didn't seem to be recognised by the ownership of our once great club.

We have 2 owners, neither of whom attend most of the matches, whether Wilder really gets a final say, well, 'he who pays the piper calls the tune' - but has McCabe actually seen how good Brooks is?

Why do you think McCabe doesn't attend many games? He does.

 

[vorpal blade]

I didn't think he attended most games anymore - I thought that would break the terms of his tax exilement ?

 

[Sean Thornton]

I didn't think he attended most games anymore - I thought that would break the terms of his tax exilement ?

He's been back in the U.K. for over two years, minimum.

 

[jt64]

So why little old Bournemouth with home crowds of 11000 and not one of the average premiership teams. Maybe no one else was interested for a reason. He struggled to get in our team and this time last year was getting shipped to Chesterfield on loan. I suppose he’ll enjoy watching the relegation battle from the bench.

Bournemouth finished exactly in the middle of those teams that didn't make Europe, who are in a league of their own for all intents and purposes, and those that stayed up, how much more average do you want?

Or are you just talking about club infrastructure which isn't overly relevant when TV's throwing you 10x more than what they'd have paid us for Brooks per season?

 

[YES Blade]

YES Blade are you sure you're not just trying to make yourself feel better?

It's just my opinion, like I said I could be wrong.

He's 21 and not really done much in his career so far, granted he's physically a late developer, but usually the top level talent show a lot more by the age of 21.

I also think the choice to play for Wales says a lot about him mentally, if he really rated himself as an elite player he would have waited for England.

 

[BladeInIreland]

It's just my opinion, like I said I could be wrong.

He's 21 and not really done much in his career so far, granted he's physically a late developer, but usually the top level talent show a lot more by the age of 21.

I also think the choice to play for Wales says a lot about him mentally, if he really rated himself as an elite player he would have waited for England.

To balance it a bit, He gets to work with two players with similar attributes who have had great careers. Giggs and Bale.

 

[snootyfenooty]

To balance it a bit, He gets to work with two players with similar attributes who have had great careers. Giggs and Bale.

There's that plus the fact he's never going to get a look in with England playing for the likes of SUFC (or Bournemouth). It's one bit of sound advice he's taken on board.

 

[Maidenhead]

Bollocks to him. We do not need, nor should we want, players who do not want to play for us. I’d always hoped that his experience at Man City might count in our favour. Stupid of me, in retrospect. We were always a stepping stone.

He’s actually given us very little, relative to what we have given him. That being the case, I can’t quite bring myself to say GLTTL. Rather, I’ll say IHHDRI (I hope he doesn’t regret it).

well said.

Exactly my view too.