Evans Goal

[djbaldken]

Just seen the goal by Jack Grealish against Cardiff last night. Apparently the media is raving about it calling it 'a wonder goal' . It is virtually the same as the one Evans scored. Yet no mention of Evans anywhere. Media bias or what? Just asking.

 

[JohnDenver]

Bigger club, bigger name, bigger game. Sad but true.

I’m just happy I saw Evans’s goal live. It was astonishing.

 

[Houso]

I cannot understand how you get such a connection on a side-footed volley. It genuinely seemed to accelerate all the way into the back of the net.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Both goals were terrific.

The second epitomises what some of us have been banging on about for some time, which is the difference you get from a naturally creative player putting a ball into the box as against balls delivered from players who are essentially full backs.

Brooks's little chip over the top was exquisite.

 

[awblade]

It is hard to decide, but I think I prefer his second to his first last night

 

[Bashar Al Asaba]

Almost as good as Our Billy's against Leeds.

Almost.

 

[Ricky]

It was a great goal that gets better every time I watch it, but the ball sat up perfectly to enable that solid side foot connection to generate the power and dip. Still far from easy to execute though.

I initially thought it was Lundstram who scored it - it seemed like his sort of effort. But it's Evans' sort of effort too, we've seen similar attempts from him in other games.
If you didn't know who scored it, it would be hard to guess whether it'd more likely be Evans or Lundstram wouldn't it?

It's good to have two midfielders who have something like that in their locker.

I'd guess Jack Girlish's goal is getting more publicity partly because it was live on Sky.

 

[Razor1967]

It was a great goal that gets better every time I watch it, but the ball sat up perfectly to enable that solid side foot connection to generate the power and dip. Still far from easy to execute though.

I initially thought it was Lundstram who scored it - it seemed like his sort of effort. But it's Evans' sort of effort too, we've seen similar attempts from him in other games.
If you didn't know who scored it, it would be hard to guess whether it'd more likely be Evans or Lundstram wouldn't it?

It's good to have two midfielders who have something like that in their locker.

I'd guess Jack Girlish's goal is getting more publicity partly because it was live on Sky.

It’s actually comparing them on the Sky Sports News app, calm down lad

 

[loyalblade95]

We thought it was lunny who scored the second only when I checked my phone at half time did I realise it was Evans again

 

[Sheffsteel]

They’ve also briefly talked about it on Talksport both last night and this morning.

Last night in the Sports Bar they were talking about the the Grealish goal but said Sheff United first was similiar and equally as good.
Jason Cundy said both Sheff Utd goals were good but he said he actually preferred Evans 2nd goal.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I cannot understand how you get such a connection on a side-footed volley. It genuinely seemed to accelerate all the way into the back of the net.

I used to take penalties for our County Senior and Meadowhall side.

I could get as much power side footing (and more accuracy of course) than I could trying to twat it.

 

[Bladepicker]

I think Evans' is better. Both stunning volleys that sat up perfectly for them, but Grealish was standing still waiting for it, Evans hit his side footed, on the run at an angle. It was extraordinarily good technique.

 

[CopenhagenBlade]

I missed it as I was late logging into iFollow and have now caught up and can’t believe that, even on here, we aren’t raving about this much more. Amazing strike but not being recognized by the wider media

 

[Whiston Blade]

I missed it as I was late logging into iFollow and have now caught up and can’t believe that, even on here, we aren’t raving about this much more. Amazing strike but not being recognized by the wider media

Because his name doesn't end in Messi or Ronaldo or because he's not at a top 5 PL club.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I don't get the idea that Evans' 'sat up nicely'.

This is generally the case when the ball has already bounced. It didn't sit up at all, Evans made a good 10 yard run to get there keeping his eye on it always. The technique was superb, a side-footed Exocet. Grealish's wasn't clean, it was swerving away and any further out would have been wide.

 

[sitwell]

Bigger club, bigger name, bigger game. Sad but true.

I’m just happy I saw Evans’s goal live. It was astonishing.

Bigger wanker

 

[Stretch]

Grealish hit his off the laces from more of a standing position, so in theory it was easier to generate power, although you could argue that he had to be more accurate in doing so as he struck using a smaller surface area. Also his went in off the bar which always looks a bit special.

Evans was running onto his from an angle which adds a touch of the spectacular and although hitting side footed affords greater control it is also harder to generate power. He had to effectively place the ball by hitting it with very little follow through, which isn't easy to judge especially when mobile.

Both great goals but I am biased so will go for Evans. It just looked fantastic live from the BLUT and even better from behind on camera.

 

[nowtfancy]

It was a great goal that gets better every time I watch it, but the ball sat up perfectly to enable that solid side foot connection to generate the power and dip. Still far from easy to execute though.

Sat up ?!
It came down from 40feet high
Incredible technique

 

[Geordie Blade]

I don't get the idea that Evans' 'sat up nicely'.

This is generally the case when the ball has already bounced. It didn't sit up at all, Evans made a good 10 yard run to get there keeping his eye on it always. The technique was superb, a side-footed Exocet. Grealish's wasn't clean, it was swerving away and any further out would have been wide.

Agreed. Without getting too technical*, it's about the effect of gravity on the ball's vertical speed (velocity, if you prefer). With a ball bounces up about two feet off the floor, it is moving at its fastest when it bounces. As it starts to rise, the 'upwards' speed slows down (because of gravity, obviously). Eventually, it slows down to zero speed (at its maximum height), and then gradually starts to increase in 'downward' speed again until it bounces again. This means that there is a period of time when the ball is virtually still, around two feet off the floor, ripe for someone to twat it**. For Evans' effort, the ball reached zero speed about thirty or forty feet in the air. Then, it started to come down, increasing in speed at ten metres per second per second (with a nod to Isaac Newton for inventing gravity). This means that it was travelling downwards at about 35 miles per hour by the time that Evans hit it. That's quite hard to do (especially when it travelling downwards, rather than towards you), and definitely not "sitting up nicely".

*Actually, sod it. I'm going to get technical.
**I've stopped being technical now.

 

[cooperblade]

I cannot understand how you get such a connection on a side-footed volley. It genuinely seemed to accelerate all the way into the back of the net.

The only thing I can think of to compare to are those David Luiz free-kicks that he sidefoots from about 35 yards out

 

[Ricky]

Sat up ?!
It came down from 40feet high
Incredible technique

Sat up, set up, whatever.

The height and spin on the ball meant that a solid side footed connection at the bottom of the ball would generate good power and dip. He judged the spin and got the connection perfect. A nonchalant piece of brilliance.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Grealish's goal was miles better...he had to battle against the eddy currents whipping around his rolled-down socks and his haircut.

 

[dc_blade]

The club's official Facebook page just posted a lovely video of Evans's second goal. I think the Cruyff turn from Brooks for the assist and then the crisp finish from Evans make it a better goal for me overall. A brilliant moment regardless.

 

[Northyorksblade]

It’s actually comparing them on the Sky Sports News app, calm down lad

And what was their decision on the best one?

 

[itsinyerblood]

This is one of those questions that gets muddied in the moment.

Evans' first goal was little short of spectacular and a worthy winner because of it's sheer 'hollywood' brilliance. As far as team goals go, can anyone think of a better goal than the 17-pass wonder that we saw Freeman score against Swindon last season? Different types of goals are worthy of the title of 'best ever'. Both of Evans' goals were excellent, but the first was a marvel!

 

[loyalblade95]

Grealish hit his off the laces from more of a standing position, so in theory it was easier to generate power, although you could argue that he had to be more accurate in doing so as he struck using a smaller surface area. Also his went in off the bar which always looks a bit special.

Evans was running onto his from an angle which adds a touch of the spectacular and although hitting side footed affords greater control it is also harder to generate power. He had to effectively place the ball by hitting it with very little follow through, which isn't easy to judge especially when mobile.

Both great goals but I am biased so will go for Evans. It just looked fantastic live from the BLUT and even better from behind on camera.

It looked fantastic live from the back of the kop sure it would have looked better in slow motion as well

 

[Guesty]

The only thing I can think of to compare to are those David Luiz free-kicks that he sidefoots from about 35 yards out

Roberto Baggio had an uncanny knack for sidefooting it into the top corner from outside the box, too.

 

[Pierre's PC]

Roberto Baggio had an uncanny knack for sidefooting it into the top corner from outside the box, too.

Now there is a player often overlooked these days when compiling lists of greats

 

[vas borbokis]

Agreed. Without getting too technical*, it's about the effect of gravity on the ball's vertical speed (velocity, if you prefer). With a ball bounces up about two feet off the floor, it is moving at its fastest when it bounces. As it starts to rise, the 'upwards' speed slows down (because of gravity, obviously). Eventually, it slows down to zero speed (at its maximum height), and then gradually starts to increase in 'downward' speed again until it bounces again. This means that there is a period of time when the ball is virtually still, around two feet off the floor, ripe for someone to twat it**. For Evans' effort, the ball reached zero speed about thirty or forty feet in the air. Then, it started to come down, increasing in speed at ten metres per second per second (with a nod to Isaac Newton for inventing gravity). This means that it was travelling downwards at about 35 miles per hour by the time that Evans hit it. That's quite hard to do (especially when it travelling downwards, rather than towards you), and definitely not "sitting up nicely".

*Actually, sod it. I'm going to get technical.
**I've stopped being technical now.

You can't get technical and then round up 9.81m/s/s to ten.
Great explanation but ten is just Shoddy!
;-)

 

[Geordie Blade]

You can't get technical and then round up 9.81m/s/s to ten.
Great explanation but ten is just Shoddy!
;-)

Fair play. If Evans had been sloppy and rounded up, it would have been a mis-hit, so the two decimal place calculation is vital. In fact, I’m wondering whether Wilder or Knill should be covering advanced physics with Leon this week.