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We should wait until there's an official statement from whom ever it is that ends up holding the reigns .
If the Prince has a plan, then we should know about it soon enough.
The worst thing that can happen is that it's all curtains and candle light.
I hope he's upto being a forward talking man,as it would go down much better than being a man in the shadows.
 



Though on a more positive note Kosta's Greek Deli on Shoreham Street is in-the-running-for-the-british-kebab-awards
 
There might be a few Man City fans who don't like what they've become - but they're firmly in the minority.
Many of them remember the years of mediocrity (including a short spell in L1) so they don't have the same sense of entitlement as their red neighbours (yet).
 
Imagine a deal where either party could buy the other one out. Imagine that if it happened, all the other had to do was outbid the other by a penny. Imagine forgetting the terms of that deal, and being outbid, and losing your club for a measly £5,000,000.01.

Now, that really is only in S2.

;)
 
gavtheblade said:
We should wait until there's an official statement from whom ever it is that ends up holding the reigns .
If the Prince has a plan, then we should know about it soon enough.
The worst thing that can happen is that it's all curtains and candle light.
I hope he's upto being a forward talking man,as it would go down much better than being a man in the shadows.
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Not for me. I like chairman to be in the background and let the manager do the talking. I'd hate to have owners like the Dildo Brothers gobbing off all the time.
 
BushBlade said:
Not for me. I like chairman to be in the background and let the manager do the talking. I'd hate to have owners like the Dildo Brothers gobbing off all the time.
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owners of an Arabic origin tend not to gob off about anything i’ve noticed. they’re very low key in the main
 
Blade58 said:
But the question is really, how does the Prince throw money at it with only similar wealth to KM?

That's what worries me. We don't want or need debt. We've been there and so for me, I need to know how the Prince intends to take the club forward without putting the club in financial jeopardy
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he can ask his dad/ brothers to lend him ten bob for a start?
 
GodricBlade said:
Change - brings challenge & opportunity in equal measure. Here's what I hope it brings.....

I hope we actually win something & would be happy for that to be the Championship Play Off Final this season or next.
I hope we remain entertaining to watch, playing attacking football and banging the goals in.
I hope we keep our feet on the ground though - I don't want us to win everything.
I hope keep our identity as a gritty northern club with history, heritage and a family feel about the place.
I hope we keep Mr Wilder for a good few years yet & let him have a run in the Premiership with his club.
I hope we stay at BDTBL, do up the Kop & complete the wrap-around ground. More seats? Top deck on South Stand/John St.
I hope we have 10 years lording over that lot being better than them in every department.

"I find I'm so excited that I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head.
I think it's the excitement only a free man can feel. A free man at a start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain.
I hope I can make it across the border.
I hope to see my friend and shake his hand.
I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams.
I hope."
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Been on the meths again DB ? ;)
 



BushBlade said:
There are loads of fans of all clubs who hark back to the seventies as a golden era when the game was played on shit pitches, crowds were falling because of the hooliganism and the facilities were awful. They'd much prefer to attend half full stadiums, watching some semi fit blokes sliding about in mud and kicking the shit out of each other whilst the fans are throwing darts at one another and slashing each other with Stanley knives. Who wouldn't?
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I have posted on here several times about the many ways in which football is much better nowadays than it used to be, but that does not mean that everything is better. The dominance of money and the Premier League have made the competition element of professional football much worse: between 1960 and 1972 11 different clubs won the league 1 title, and that unpredictability made the game exciting in ways which are unthinkable in the boring procession at the top of the Premier League nowadays. The Leicester season papered over a huge crack, and will rarely be repeated. The quality of the football on the pitch has improved in many ways, but that does not make the sport as a whole more exciting. The Roger Bannister sub 4-minute mile was an event of enormous excitement, but he wouldn't even qualify for a major event today. Then again, he had a full-time job, ran on a cinder track, and wore crap shoes. The event has improved technically, but are the current drug-taking athletes improving the sport as a whole? Similarly with football - the 90 minutes of the games are much improved, but the integrity of the sport as a whole is being corrupted by football's drug - the dominance of money.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
I have posted on here several times about the many ways in which football is much better nowadays than it used to be, but that does not mean that everything is better. The dominance of money and the Premier League have made the competition element of professional football much worse: between 1960 and 1972 11 different clubs won the league 1 title, and that unpredictability made the game exciting in ways which are unthinkable in the boring procession at the top of the Premier League nowadays. The Leicester season papered over a huge crack, and will rarely be repeated. The quality of the football on the pitch has improved in many ways, but that does not make the sport as a whole more exciting. The Roger Bannister sub 4-minute mile was an event of enormous excitement, but he wouldn't even qualify for a major event today. Then again, he had a full-time job, ran on a cinder track, and wore crap shoes. The event has improved technically, but are the current drug-taking athletes improving the sport as a whole? Similarly with football - the 90 minutes of the games are much improved, but the integrity of the sport as a whole is being corrupted by football's drug - the dominance of money.
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There wasn't a huge amount of integrity over at S6 in those days.
 
SwissBlade said:
It’s not going to happen as I think it’s so hard to get into the top 6 of the Premier league without serious and stupid money!

However, I would say it depends how it happens. If we throw money at it and become another side that just wins by having the biggest wallet with a squad filled with foreign players with no affinity or loyalty to the club, then no, I don’t really want to go down that road

I like our club, I like the way we’re growing naturally with people that care both on the pitch and in management and up to the owners. It’s something that we lost when Warnock went, love him or hate him.

We ended up with final paydayers and journey men that didn’t really care or give their all. We ended up with Joe Mattock’s and Neil Collins’ and we really were a sad and sorry side

To be perfectly honest I want to keep what we have now in terms of the spirit, desire and connection we have between club and fans. If that means being in the Premier League and winning things that’s all good. If it means a few years in Championship, I’m just as happy

I’d love to follow United in Europe, but not without the soul of the club in tact. I’d love to see us win at Wembley, but not with a side of mercenaries.

Personally I really don’t like the Premier league and I think the TV deals will eventually implode. It would be just typical that we were at the top when the tv deals sent the tv operator bust

So bring on the best players from the globe and an upgraded ground, I’d love to have a pint on the kop in December without getting pissed on or freezing my bollocks off. And if an ageing messi and Ronaldo want a final pay day on the hallowed desso then all’s good... they just better be willing to graft and have a pint
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This. Absolutely this
 
BushBlade said:
There wasn't a huge amount of integrity over at S6 in those days.
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Agreed, and I am sure there was lots more we didn't know about. My point is about the integrity of a competition: the competitive element of any sport is what provides its drama, and the more predictable it is, the less compelling the drama. Obviously there will always be some teams better than others, but I think it is only recently that fans of the majority of teams in the top division have accepted that the limit of their ambition is avoiding relegation, or perhaps finishing above half-way up the table. Most of them don't even have a serious go at the Cup. This lack of competitiveness will eventually kill the PL in its present form.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Agreed, and I am sure there was lots more we didn't know about. My point is about the integrity of a competition: the competitive element of any sport is what provides its drama, and the more predictable it is, the less compelling the drama. Obviously there will always be some teams better than others, but I think it is only recently that fans of the majority of teams in the top division have accepted that the limit of their ambition is avoiding relegation, or perhaps finishing above half-way up the table. Most of them don't even have a serious go at the Cup. This lack of competitiveness will eventually kill the PL in its present form.
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Maybe but when I was growing up Liverpool usually won it.
 
This would be fooking shit wouldn't it? I'd be sat with my head in my hands worrying about what we'd become.

 
mancunianblade said:
There are a decent number of them. You can tell at the games too the atmosphere is so flat. Having said that let’s be honest this is t City level investment. I’d be happy with whatever CW is happy with
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CW is easily pleased... 3 League one Players and a kid from ManU. To be honest all we ever want is modest investment and ‘some’ ambition.
 
There wouldn't be owt up with money if it was spread around more evenly the trouble is most goes to the Premiership where not being in the bottom three has huge rewards. Now not being in the bottom three is most of the clubs ambition, the top six are virtually the same year after year just another Scottish Premier division with more teams, most clubs have fuck all chance of ever winning the league or a cup for that matter it has all gone a bit stale.
 
BushBlade said:
Maybe but when I was growing up Liverpool usually won it.
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But that was presumably because they had built up well from being a 2nd division club, got outstanding managers and players, etc., not because the owner was pumping in shedloads of money. Have you any idea who the owners were, even? By the way, that was a smart career move, being brought up in Liverpool and becoming a Blade...
 
metalblade said:
There wouldn't be owt up with money if it was spread around more evenly the trouble is most goes to the Premiership where not being in the bottom three has huge rewards. Now not being in the bottom three is most of the clubs ambition, the top six are virtually the same year after year just another Scottish Premier division with more teams, most clubs have fuck all chance of ever winning the league or a cup for that matter it has all gone a bit stale.
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What I can't get my head round is the way that in the land of red-in-tooth-and-claw capitalism (USA), they run their sports like co-operatives, and while I find their chosen sports mind-numbingly boring (American football, basketball, baseball), they do seem to be properly competitive because of the college draft system, salary caps, etc. I wouldn't fancy copying the franchise system, mind. But what a difference a salary cap (per club) would make to football.
 
ZoneManWilf said:
This would be fooking shit wouldn't it? I'd be sat with my head in my hands worrying about what we'd become.

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Funny how there's a spilt between those who are desperately hanging on to the old characteristics of football and those clinging to the hope of success bought through the investment of interlopers.

What's the future of football? Just stop for a moment and ask ourselves, "is that want we want"?
 
I can honestly say I havn't watched a premiership game since the last day of 2007 that is until Leicester City won it against all the odds. I did tune in to one of their games towards the end of the season not a clue who they were playing mind but it was great to see someone else win the damn thing for a change. Being a Celtic winning the league every year must get really boring but in Scotland there is no competition, our Premier league is going much the same way. You can either try to be the next Leicester and put two fingers up to the established elite or stagnate in the Championship, be a Ipswich or Sheffield mittwoch, bleedin hell there are adult pig fans who have never seen their team go up against the best teams in England.
 



HodgysBrokenThumb said:
But that was presumably because they had built up well from being a 2nd division club, got outstanding managers and players, etc., not because the owner was pumping in shedloads of money. Have you any idea who the owners were, even? By the way, that was a smart career move, being brought up in Liverpool and becoming a Blade...
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It was the Moores family. They were one of the few owners people did know about in those days, because of Littlewoods. Liverpool hadn't been in the second division since the fifities and had been in the first division previously. I'd be very surprised if the Moores' funding didn't assist Shankly but I've no idea because I wasn't alive.

The era I grew up in was the late seventies/early eighties when Liverpool did win the league for the majority of the time. I've no idea why you think I grew up in Liverpool. I think you've probably had a few so I'll leave you to it for the rest of the night. Have a good one.
 
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