The Lundstram sub

[Slim Man]

Just me that absolutely didn’t get it? It made no sense. The shape was fine, the midfield was fine. Lundstram looked clumsy and lost the ball a few times.

Leonard and Fleck in front of Evans should’ve stuck until we decided to bring Holmes or Duffy on. Just Donaldson for Wilson would’ve been just fine. Think we lost a bit of momentum when we changed it.

In the end I’d say it cost us, but in fairness I don’t think we’d have scored if we played till next year. Missed a couple of absolute gilt edged chances and then gave a fabulous player 16 minutes to line his shot up from outside the box... again.

We should have got so much more for that performance.

 

[OrlandoexiledBlade]

oh no, don't moan about Lundstram, the clappers will be targeting you for any negativity there !

 

[Slim Man]

Having seen Evans twice absolutely no one can tell me he’s not an upgrade on Lundstram like a couple were trying to say after Norwich.

He’s far better.

 

[HydeParkBlade]

I thought Leonard kept getting caught too high up the pitch, leaving space out wide if Baldock pushed on.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

I agree tbh. Duffy was the right move.

 

[GuangzhouBlade]

Having seen Evans twice absolutely no one can tell me he’s not an upgrade on Lundstram like a couple were trying to say after Norwich.

For me Evans looks a little more forward thinking but gave the ball away a lot and his first touch looked off not something you want in that role. I'd go with Lundstram who yes is more defensively minded but he seems much more solid as an anchor to the midfield. Leonard was a a passenger for the most part. Not sure we needed Him Fleck and Evans far too defensive for me and meant no one was playing just off the forwards picking up the second ball and taking men out the game which Duffy does so well.

 

[Slim Man]

I thought Leonard kept getting caught too high up the pitch, leaving space out wide if Baldock pushed on.

Baldock and Basham had that right side on lockdown if you ask me. Never felt threatened.

I only ever got scared from set pieces

 

[LJBlade]

Having seen Evans twice absolutely no one can tell me he’s not an upgrade on Lundstram like a couple were trying to say after Norwich.

But is Leonard an upgrade on Lundstram. Today you could have probably counted on both hands the number of times Leonard touched the ball. I’m not having a go at Leonard as it takes time to get up to speed but that didn’t apply to Lundstram.

On Lundstram he gave the ball away less than Fleck whilst he was on.

 

[OrlandoexiledBlade]

Evans was excellent in the first half , might as well have called him Coutts at times. He is simply a little quicker in control, change of direction and thought than Lundstram. that provides a hair more space and room to shift the ball

 

[dc_blade]

I like Lunny but that was a puzzling choice for me too. Evans was quality and after two games it does seem he's a more confident and progressive midfielder than Lundstram. Lunny didn't do much wrong exactly but he didn't drive us forward the way Evans was.

Even worse was how we reacted to Donaldson coming on. Terry had us in his his pocket when it came to the long ball. We play so much nice stuff with the ball on the deck, I just don't understand why we're tempted to switch it up like that.

 

[Geordie Blade]

We definitely slowed down a lot after the substitutes. The three players coming on didn’t quite seem to fit the shape, which had been working well up to that point.

 

[Slim Man]

I’m not having a go at Leonard as it takes time to get up to speed but that didn’t apply to Lundstram

You are joking right?

 

[LJBlade]

You are joking right?

Do you not remember the negative comments on here about Lundstram after just one game?

 

[Slim Man]

Do you not remember the negative comments on here about Lundstram after just one game?

Oh, I thought you meant Lundstram didn’t take time to settle.

Yeah I do, fortunately for Leonard Evans has been outstanding which has taken the eyes off him. But no way should be have made way for Lundstram today. Should’ve been Duffy on and push Evans further up with Fleck.

 

[Plymouthblade]

Just me that absolutely didn’t get it? It made no sense. The shape was fine, the midfield was fine. Lundstram looked clumsy and lost the ball a few times.

Leonard and Fleck in front of Evans should’ve stuck until we decided to bring Holmes or Duffy on. Just Donaldson for Wilson would’ve been just fine. Think we lost a bit of momentum when we changed it.

In the end I’d say it cost us, but in fairness I don’t think we’d have scored if we played till next year. Missed a couple of absolute gilt edged chances and then gave a fabulous player 16 minutes to line his shot up from outside the box... again.

We should have got so much more for that performance.

Not read the rest of the thread yet but thought we were all out to win ? I would have gone Duffy Holmes for Leonard fleck, no passion till we were chasing it.
For that moaning ex Leeds scum I’m going bed utb didn’t go for it second half but the best team didn’t win.
Pick ourselves up great game of football by the way nice to know we back xx love to all

 

[Freethinker]

Just me that absolutely didn’t get it? It made no sense. The shape was fine, the midfield was fine. Lundstram looked clumsy and lost the ball a few times.

Leonard and Fleck in front of Evans should’ve stuck until we decided to bring Holmes or Duffy on. Just Donaldson for Wilson would’ve been just fine. Think we lost a bit of momentum when we changed it.

In the end I’d say it cost us, but in fairness I don’t think we’d have scored if we played till next year. Missed a couple of absolute gilt edged chances and then gave a fabulous player 16 minutes to line his shot up from outside the box... again.

We should have got so much more for that performance.

Disagree their goalie won them the game

 

[Gimli]

I agree with this Danny, I've been a fan of Lundstram but I would agree on the couple of games we've seen Evans he looks a definite upgrade. He does largely the same things, but is quicker and passes are crisper. Didn't see the need to take him off to be honest. In fact, I'd say none of the subs made an impact, but I guess in general the whole side were struggling to break them down so maybe a difficult game to come on an make an impact.

 

[Snowman]

That was the stupidest decision I have seen since the last time Wilder went clever Trevor.

 

[Slim Man]

Disagree their goalie won them the game

Snodgrass won them the game because we gave him an hour to pick the corner out.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Just me that absolutely didn’t get it? It made no sense. The shape was fine, the midfield was fine. Lundstram looked clumsy and lost the ball a few times.

Leonard and Fleck in front of Evans should’ve stuck until we decided to bring Holmes or Duffy on. Just Donaldson for Wilson would’ve been just fine. Think we lost a bit of momentum when we changed it.

In the end I’d say it cost us, but in fairness I don’t think we’d have scored if we played till next year. Missed a couple of absolute gilt edged chances and then gave a fabulous player 16 minutes to line his shot up from outside the box... again.

We should have got so much more for that performance.

Not keen on Lundstram but he did more in the short time he was on the pitch than Leonard did all game. Seen Leonard twice now and still waiting to be impressed.

 

[Slim Man]

Not keen on Lundstram but he did more in the short time he was on the pitch than Leonard did all game. Seen Leonard twice now and still waiting to be impressed.

Maybe so. However why make the change in the first place when you’re going to gain nothing?

We would’ve gained a lot more from bringing Duffy on and pushing Evans up with Fleck.

 

[Iceybabey]

I agree didn't get that sub

 

[LJBlade]

Oh, I thought you meant Lundstram didn’t take time to settle.

Yeah I do, fortunately for Leonard Evans has been outstanding which has taken the eyes off him. But no way should be have made way for Lundstram today. Should’ve been Duffy on and push Evans further up with Fleck.

It’s not the first time you’ve got something wrong.

Yes Duffy should have come on for Leonard but to blame the defeat on Lundstram is just plain stupid

 

[Slim Man]

It’s not the first time you’ve got something wrong.

Yes Duffy should have come on for Leonard but to blame the defeat on Lundstram is just plain stupid

Why don’t you try and structure your sentences a bit better pal?

I’m not blaming Lundstram you dunce, I’m saying the sub slowed us down and we lost our momentum. Unless your eyes don’t work you’d have seen that.

 

[Punk Blade]

Lundstram for Leonard was the only sub that did make sense. Leonard was anonymous, Donaldson and Holmes never got up to the pace. Taking Evans off was the mistake.

 

[Rodley]

Don’t rate Lundstram. We needed Duffy on. Leonard looked alright to me.

 

[sheffielder]

Thought it was bizarre myself. Understood Lunny for Leonard who I am hoping had a nervous start, as he looks quite basic to me.

Problem is when you bring Donaldson on for Wilson the movement went then. Bringing Evans off.

Why not just Holmes for Leonard and you could have had a double change up top or put Duffy on behind Clarke.

Anyway we should have won but the subs set us back and we couldn’t get any momentum going. Poor start to secondalf probably set these ubs in motion

 

[LJBlade]

Why don’t you try and structure your sentences a bit better pal?

I’m not blaming Lundstram you dunce, I’m saying the sub slowed us down and we lost our momentum. Unless your eyes don’t work you’d have seen that.

Or you could just read them instead of jumping straight in, ‘pal’.

You said the substitution of Lundstram cost us. They were your words.

 

[Addison]

The substitutions cost us a deserved point. Duffy for Leonard was the substitution we should have made but we seemed content with going for a point. Dominated first half but second half they upped their game. Duffy would have given them something to think about in front of their back four. Taking Evans off was bewildering we lost all momentum and resorted to blasting the ball up in the air to two big forwards. Terry had an easy last 20 minutes. Too many poor substitutions this season have lost us points. They were no better than us, one shot on goal and we lose again.

 

[Large Mendonca]

Thought it was bizarre myself. Understood Lunny for Leonard who I am hoping had a nervous start, as he looks quite basic to me.

Problem is when you bring Donaldson on for Wilson the movement went then. Bringing Evans off.

Why not just Holmes for Leonard and you could have had a double change up top or put Duffy on behind Clarke.

Anyway we should have won but the subs set us back and we couldn’t get any momentum going. Poor start to secondalf probably set these ubs in motion

We lost momentum as soon as we took Wilson off, and the game was crying out for Duffy to come on as neither Leon or Donaldson were doing a good job holding the ball up. Did anyone also see second half how Villa were targeting Basham as a weak link for the counter ?