safe standing

[blade too long]

Shrewsbury look set to trial safe standing at out of the closet meadow
I have reservations on large scale standing areas but such as in the photo below would replace the farce at the back of the kop , even a rebuilt one where everyone stands for most of the game

 

[Harry's Game]

Shrewsbury look set to trial safe standing at out of the closet meadow
I have reservations on large scale standing areas but such as in the photo below would replace the farce at the back of the kop , where everyone stands for most of the game

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Exactly where the safe standing area should be on the Kop, especially if they go ahead with the extended capacity at the rear when the redevelopments begin. That would mean no hassle in making current season ticket holders give up their seats.

 

[Ricky]

Hopefully this is the start of it all. And hopefully it doesn't take another 20 bloody years.

 

[SwissBlade]

Hopefully this is the start of it all. And hopefully it doesn't take another 20 bloody years.

I think it will only bring us a world of problems that we don’t need.

If it’s at the back of the kop then it won’t affect the rest of the ground too much as people just stand there anyway.

But given that our fans can’t behave themselves at the best of times I don’t see this helping anything but increasing the number of banning orders

 

[Booker4]

Hopefully this is the start of it all. And hopefully it doesn't take another 20 bloody years.

I thought safe standing was still prohibited in England and Wales? It would be great to see the new Kop entirely safe standing! A bit like this!

This is the Fritz Walter Stadion from my favourite German team Kaisurslaughtern. I've liked them ever since 1992!

 

[Rodley]

I think it will only bring us a world of problems that we don’t need.

If it’s at the back of the kop then it won’t affect the rest of the ground too much as people just stand there anyway.

But given that our fans can’t behave themselves at the best of times I don’t see this helping anything but increasing the number of banning orders

By what? Letting the people who stand up already illegally, stand up legally?

 

[Rodley]

Just get on with it. I’m in my thirties so wouldn’t be in there every week, but think it’d be good for atmospheres and should hopefully stop fans being treated like pariahs for standing up.

More of this and less half and half scarves please.

 

[Inter_blade83]

Bring back standing

Allow people to drink in view of the pitch

Make football more civilised, treat people like people, and they will respond like people.

 

[Ricky]

I think it will only bring us a world of problems that we don’t need.

If it’s at the back of the kop then it won’t affect the rest of the ground too much as people just stand there anyway.

But given that our fans can’t behave themselves at the best of times I don’t see this helping anything but increasing the number of banning orders

Our fans don't misbehave at home games any more than anybody else.

Why would it result it more banning orders?

My only concern would be if they made the standing areas too small and also used them as a reason to be extremely strict about any standing in seated areas.

 

[jt64]

I thought safe standing was still prohibited in England and Wales? It would be great to see the new Kop entirely safe standing! A bit like this!

This is the Fritz Walter Stadion from my favourite German team Kaisurslaughtern. I've liked them ever since 1992!

How about no, the last beer outlet is on ground level so if you're on the upper tier like I was you're knackered

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Well the club indicated its support previously http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?posts/570150/. Would be an excellent addition to a new Kop, if it ever gets developed.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Our fans don't misbehave at home games any more than anybody else.

Why would it result it more banning orders?

My only concern would be if they made the standing areas too small and also used them as a reason to be extremely strict about any standing in seated areas.

I think they would be strict about standing elsewhere. If you want to stand then there's a standing area and no excuse for it elsewhere. As you say, it has to be a large enough area in the first place.

 

[Booker4]

How about no, the last beer outlet is on ground level so if you're on the upper tier like I was you're knackered

Whether its safe standing or not, when they extend the Kop is going to be more walking whatever but the new concourse will sell beer so you won't need to walk to the street level as we do now to get a beer.

 

[Booker4]

Clubs that have played for three seasons in the top two tiers of the football pyramid are required by law to provide all-seat stadiums. But Shrewsbury do not come under this condition and are supported in their quest by the Football League.

The above quote taken from the Guardian. Does this mean we won't be able to trial it?

 

[McGrath]

Standing is safe anyway.....Herding human beings into pens surrounded by 10 foot high fencing at the end of a narrow tunnel is not "safe standing", in fact it's insanity

 

[vorpal blade]

but if they always stand at the back of the kop, what would be the point of the seats there?

 

[SwissBlade]

By what? Letting the people who stand up already illegally, stand up legally?

Its not the standing its the behaviour

 

[SwissBlade]

Our fans don't misbehave at home games any more than anybody else.

Why would it result it more banning orders?

My only concern would be if they made the standing areas too small and also used them as a reason to be extremely strict about any standing in seated areas.

No, perhaps you're right, but i think with standing we'd end up with more misbehaving for little extra benefit

I just don't see the additional benefit to it

 

[Ricky]

One thing a standing area at the back of the Kop would do is ensure that we keep standing up there. I'd like it to be at least 12-15 rows.

There seems to be less rows standing up there than there used to be, and it seems to be getting a bit more subdued. I don't want it to get to a stage where only the back 2 or 3 stand. No standing = no singing.

It would also be a good idea to have more standing rows down the right side of the Kop than anywhere else, at least 20. That's long been the most vocal area of the Kop.

 

[JJ Sefton]

I bought a season ticket for my local MLS team based solely on the fact they'll have a standing section and you can drink in it.

Well, not solely, the first match I went to I got stood next to this lass...

http://www.twincities.com/2017/09/27/topless-woman-charged-after-arrest-at-minnesota-united-game/

 

[penthouseblade]

I think they would be strict about standing elsewhere. If you want to stand then there's a standing area and no excuse for it elsewhere. As you say, it has to be a large enough area in the first place.

A decent test area would be the 10/15 rows at the back of the Kop but the whole stand should be standing in my opinion!

Government legislation has to change first unfortunately, so as great as this idea is, it won't happen for many years, if at all.

 

[Tyler Durden]

It's an inevitability.

Standing naturally goes hand-in-hand with being at a football match. Arbitrarily banning it hasn't changed that. Common sense is prevailing on the issue, which is why the powers that be in South Yorkshire will drag their feet until the bitter end. But it WILL happen.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

I bought a season ticket for my local MLS team based solely on the fact they'll have a standing section and you can drink in it.

Well, not solely, the first match I went to I got stood next to this lass...

http://www.twincities.com/2017/09/27/topless-woman-charged-after-arrest-at-minnesota-united-game/

Presumably any pros from having the occasional topless fan is more than counteracted by the negative of having Adrian Heath as the head coach...

 

[Rodley]

Its not the standing its the behaviour

Wrong thread for that mate, this is the standing thread

 

[Rodley]

It's an inevitability.

Standing naturally goes hand-in-hand with being at a football match. Arbitrarily banning it hasn't changed that. Common sense is prevailing on the issue, which is why the powers that be in South Yorkshire will drag their feet until the bitter end. But it WILL happen.

Apparently the Safety Advisory Group are monitoring this thread and as a consequence are considering reducing the away allocations for next season’s derby matches.

 

[JJ Sefton]

Presumably any pros from having the occasional topless fan is more than counteracted by the negative of having Adrian Heath as the head coach...

That’s what the booze is for.

 

[TJB.]

But given that our fans can’t behave themselves at the best of times I don’t see this helping anything but increasing the number of banning orders

That's the kind of thinking that halts progress on the issue.

We have some idiots, yes. But standing doesn't cause idiocy. Idiocy causes idiocy.

I stand for 90 minutes at every home game, as does everyone around me. Fair few kids and teen lads back there. Never any bother where I am.

 

[cahill]

I think it will only bring us a world of problems that we don’t need.

If it’s at the back of the kop then it won’t affect the rest of the ground too much as people just stand there anyway.

But given that our fans can’t behave themselves at the best of times I don’t see this helping anything but increasing the number of banning orders

Everyone stands up there now and there’s no trouble. Football shouldn’t be watched sitting down, seems unnatural to me. Great news if we follow suit. I’ll not see 63 again and not one for trouble, neither is anyone’ around me. The bottle chuckers v Norwich came from the seats near the front

 

[Whiston Blade]

This is how we should have done the John Street/Kop corner.

 

[Booker4]

This is how we should have done the John Street/Kop corner.

Agreed although I do like that the Kop is separate though as it makes it a proper Kop if you know what I mean.The John Street corner is to be redeveloped when the Kop gets done - whenever that is!